1806 DBH GTG - GRADE REVEALED in first post
JoeLewis
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Not my coin. I'm interested in how you guys would grade this coin.
Grade revealed. I like this coin. For some reason it speaks to me. I bet that scratch is not nearly as prominent in hand, and I don't necessarily think that color is 100% accurate. The seller has this priced somewhere between a 35 and a 40.
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XF40
Maybe VF35
Not sure what I think with what strikes me as a scratch on the face but ill say XF details.
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VF
Mr_Spud
XF40, weakness in strike in the centers, but the drapery is intact at the shoulder as it should be on XF DBH's. T-17.
First thought was 35/40, nice coin.
Looks like a 40 to me. nice color, hopefully the mark on the face is very light and only visible at certain light angles.
VF
xf-40
Nice coin. I think it squeaks by as a 40 but that cheek may hold down her enthusiasm a bit as
far as pricing the coin. A clear larger pic of her portrait would help.
35-40.
37.5 Just not feeling warm and fuzzy with the surfaces of this one.
VF35
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Vf30
Modern EF-40, 40 to 30 years ago, VF-30.
30 money.
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Vf
XF40.
Lance.
Has the appearance of a 38, reverse lilooks EF, not crazy about the cheek though, net 33 imo.
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XF details with peculiar surfaces
XF40 details due to prominent scratch on face.... Cheers, RickO
XF.
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Probably VF30, but PQ for grade.
VF-30
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40
mid-range VF
Vf 35
35
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Speaking of scratches. This one is in a straight holder and CAC'd as well!
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Wow! I guess old counts for something!
My estimate is 40
There definitely seems to be some allowances for coins of this age with all of the the TPGs (CAC as well). I guess I don't mind since it's all just opinions anyway, but it can be a little confusing for potential buyers.
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Also, conditions were rough back then, and these scratches may well have occurred in normal daily commerce.
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Those scratches are excessive imo. I could see a thin toned over scratch get a pass but that coin should be in a details holder.
35
45
My 1883 with cents, of course it was a worn out coin too, but it got "Detail Holder" because of the scratch. It was old and already coated over. My old eyes didn't see it until they told me where to look.
XF40
35/40
Bump to reveal grade.
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Looks like a very nice coin!
What I expected...I think 6 times it comes back VF35, 2 times XF40, 1 time VF30, and 1 time details if you submitted it 10 times. Grading is simply not consistent and based on the graders on any given day. Nice to see that the forum got it correct to a large degree
There does seem to be inconsistency with all the coins in the VF range I've looked at. Many coins look over or undergraded to me. Parts of this coin definitely look XF.
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I had looked at this post yesterday but forgot to comment as I was busy and company showed up. I think it's an attractive DBH.
I initially though 35, so I am glad to see I was on it. The more I looked I also could see it as a 40, but only sort of. I really didn't and don't see it as a 30.
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Late to the party but I had it pegged at 40.
Nice pick up.
I really like it.
Perhaps the 35 was a slight down grade for the scratch?
I'd have gone easy 40 without it.
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The DBH series is difficult to grade consistently, there are infinite combinations of die stages, die pairings that are out of alignment and never strike well, and different striking pressure. There have been no less than 3 threads on grading for 1806 O.121/T-29 that appear to be undergraded, but there is a worn out obverse die paired with a new reverse die, making it difficult to grade.
I have quite a few VF graded DBH's with luster that one would expect on an XF45, they are all from worn dies that tend to get undergraded. Since I collect DBH's by die marriage and die state, I can't worry about grading inconsistency.