@oih82w8 said:
Here is my 1849/6 H10C which was attributed as 1849/8 back in the day. This variety has had lots of changes and confusion in the past couple of years.
As a variety collector I have quite a few H-10 varieties including most if not all of the 49 date varieties. My collection on Bust 1829 ~ 1837 is completed by date but not all die marriages.
I am still searching for the marriges I dont have, as well any varieties.
Seated series I have just about completed the date and mm set. Lacking the 1863~ 68 Philly and some 1840's P and o mints.
I have all of the San fran mm for the date and mm set.
Im guessing as I am not looking at my inventory my h~10 combined around 250+/- specimens .
I have quite a few varieties in the seated series ,and love hunting them.
Now as a cherry picker for almosr 5 decades my white whale is yes one of the easiest picks the 1858 inverted dates both varieties.
I can tell you how many 58's my baby blues have scaned...I can tell you the hunt is still on!
Being in the soap bar and a darker toner this is hard to capture images , however in hand under natural ligjt this is a very sweet specimen. I am one who doesnt like to break out of older holders...even thought a grade increase would definitely be a positive. Im old school as collecting as long as I have I trust my eye over any tpg. ...be the specimen raw or graded...
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This is not a "Small Stars".
Not really your fault, because books like the Red Book do not define "Small Stars".
It's one of the most frequently misattributed half dimes, along with the 1848 Large Date.
What you really look for is the "rusty arm". https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/995123/1838-stars-half-dime
I have another h-10 to post unable at present just a week post op, and still on limited restriction on doing certian movement. Like bending over into the vaults.
However its a common date with a reverse die crack that you couldn't draw a straight line with a ruler any better! It bisecting crack that runs roughly at 1 k rev, thru to 7 k .
I've never seen any like before....pretty cool ....as it looks like if you scored something to cut or break....however it isn't pmd, and make a common date a very interesting specimen.
@yosclimber said:
This is not a "Small Stars".
Not really your fault, because books like the Red Book do not define "Small Stars".
It's one of the most frequently misattributed half dimes, along with the 1848 Large Date.
What you really look for is the "rusty arm". https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/995123/1838-stars-half-dime
So your saying that this is a obv. Rusted arm variety?
I have quite a few more in the collection , shame I have the time ,but again 1 week post op my ability to bend and move around are limited, as well my nurse aka the wife has me on a short lead as she knows me well enough to know.....I tend to bend the rules sometimes! .
You may have notice if you know the name that quite a few of my specimens were purchased from John Call of Va. John and I have been friends and over the years have horse traded back and forth......John is a truly stand up guy.... as well a good friend.
He knows what I like in my collection and is always willing to work with his customers.
Whats funny is John knows that I do have a good eye for details,as well cherry picking...as quite a few times I have given him a heads up on a specimen he has had on ebay that had a tad bite more meat on the bone....being a variety he had not caught.....he did ask me not to cherry pick him ...lol ,as he has seen me in action and knows that I am pretty good at knowing my varieties in general in many series,or knowing where to start my exam to spot something a miss on a coin.
@yosclimber said:
This is not a "Small Stars".
Not really your fault, because books like the Red Book do not define "Small Stars".
It's one of the most frequently misattributed half dimes, along with the 1848 Large Date.
What you really look for is the "rusty arm". https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/995123/1838-stars-half-dime
So your saying that this is a obv. Rusted arm variety?
I meant to say that the V-1 / V-2 "small stars" is best identified from the "rusty arm", rather than from the size of the stars.
And your coin does not have the "rusty arm", so your coin is not a V-1 / V-2 "small stars".
@HalfDimeDude said:
I have another h-10 to post unable at present just a week post op, and still on limited restriction on doing certian movement. Like bending over into the vaults.
However its a common date with a reverse die crack that you couldn't draw a straight line with a ruler any better! It bisecting crack that runs roughly at 1 k rev, thru to 7 k .
I've never seen any like before....pretty cool ....as it looks like if you scored something to cut or break....however it isn't pmd, and make a common date a very interesting specimen.
@HalfDimeDude said:
I have another h-10 to post unable at present just a week post op, and still on limited restriction on doing certian movement. Like bending over into the vaults.
However its a common date with a reverse die crack that you couldn't draw a straight line with a ruler any better! It bisecting crack that runs roughly at 1 k rev, thru to 7 k .
I've never seen any like before....pretty cool ....as it looks like if you scored something to cut or break....however it isn't pmd, and make a common date a very interesting specimen.
I will need to get back to you on this lol as I am sitting here try to recall what the date is.
I have so many to remember.....but I will get to it in a few days and post it .
To be honest its one that i never sell ...well I dont sell my h 10s well not yet....but the crack is like how the hell did that occur type of crack.
Ill need a couple of days to reply to your questions, as again im post op and working on a brand new hip! So like the tim man I need a little more oiling to get that leg to do as I want it to.
The issues isnt pain ...I flushed all the oxy on my first potty visit when I returned home.....I wont and dont do opioids, Tylenol is what ive been on to maintain any disconfort. And my PT is walking getting my muscle tone back.
This one is nice for research because it ties together the V-2 cracked obverse (rock to cap)
with the V-3 reverse (die pit in leaf under E of AMERICA).
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Interesting - I have not seen this before.
What die pair is your coin in terms of LM?
That CherryPicker's Guide blurb on the 1829 LM-3, a VERY COMMON die marriage, made me think that the authors had zero credibility. Almost as if they just decided to make it up. I know they have long histories and lots of research done and well-accepted, but a complete fabrication like that one didn't sit well with me. Basically caused dealers to look for the LM-3 and easily find them and then ask huge prices for them. I sure hope collectors didn't pay extra for any of these.
Find an 1829 LM-3 with a cud on the reverse, then you have something worth some serious cash.
As some would say, the 1829/3 half dime is FAKE NEWS.
@yosclimber said:
1853-O V-18a has a pretty straight reverse raised edge.
Not sure if it is:
die crack
some object with a long straight edge hit the die
Now I will go nuts until I can get into the vault....as i do believe if my memory serves me it was a 53 maybe o mine the crack runs from like 1k at a 40 /45 degree down through the half dime on a straight path to the 7 k area. Mine is a raised crack with no scar meaning no medal flow from the line.. so like you took a rule and a sharpie and drew a line.
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As a variety collector I have quite a few H-10 varieties including most if not all of the 49 date varieties. My collection on Bust 1829 ~ 1837 is completed by date but not all die marriages.
I am still searching for the marriges I dont have, as well any varieties.
Seated series I have just about completed the date and mm set. Lacking the 1863~ 68 Philly and some 1840's P and o mints.
I have all of the San fran mm for the date and mm set.
Im guessing as I am not looking at my inventory my h~10 combined around 250+/- specimens .
I have quite a few varieties in the seated series ,and love hunting them.
Now as a cherry picker for almosr 5 decades my white whale is yes one of the easiest picks the 1858 inverted dates both varieties.
I can tell you how many 58's my baby blues have scaned...I can tell you the hunt is still on!
"That's why I wander and follow La Vie Dansante"
Being in the soap bar and a darker toner this is hard to capture images , however in hand under natural ligjt this is a very sweet specimen. I am one who doesnt like to break out of older holders...even thought a grade increase would definitely be a positive. Im old school as collecting as long as I have I trust my eye over any tpg. ...be the specimen raw or graded...
"That's why I wander and follow La Vie Dansante"
This is my humble submission.
"That's why I wander and follow La Vie Dansante"
"That's why I wander and follow La Vie Dansante"
Some really good looking half dimes here. Here's a couple proofs:
"That's why I wander and follow La Vie Dansante"
"That's why I wander and follow La Vie Dansante"
"That's why I wander and follow La Vie Dansante"
"That's why I wander and follow La Vie Dansante"
"That's why I wander and follow La Vie Dansante"
"That's why I wander and follow La Vie Dansante"
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"That's why I wander and follow La Vie Dansante"
"That's why I wander and follow La Vie Dansante"
"That's why I wander and follow La Vie Dansante"
"That's why I wander and follow La Vie Dansante"
"That's why I wander and follow La Vie Dansante"
"That's why I wander and follow La Vie Dansante"
This is not a "Small Stars".
Not really your fault, because books like the Red Book do not define "Small Stars".
It's one of the most frequently misattributed half dimes, along with the 1848 Large Date.
What you really look for is the "rusty arm".
https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/995123/1838-stars-half-dime
I have found that over the years many series have been mis attributions ,half no exceptions.
Cherry pickers sort of screwed the pooch with this...
"That's why I wander and follow La Vie Dansante"
"That's why I wander and follow La Vie Dansante"
This 1848 H-10 with something under the date that actually triple strike , looks like a piece of the top right of the shield.
"That's why I wander and follow La Vie Dansante"
I have another h-10 to post unable at present just a week post op, and still on limited restriction on doing certian movement. Like bending over into the vaults.
However its a common date with a reverse die crack that you couldn't draw a straight line with a ruler any better! It bisecting crack that runs roughly at 1 k rev, thru to 7 k .
I've never seen any like before....pretty cool ....as it looks like if you scored something to cut or break....however it isn't pmd, and make a common date a very interesting specimen.
"That's why I wander and follow La Vie Dansante"
So your saying that this is a obv. Rusted arm variety?
"That's why I wander and follow La Vie Dansante"
I have quite a few more in the collection , shame I have the time ,but again 1 week post op my ability to bend and move around are limited, as well my nurse aka the wife has me on a short lead as she knows me well enough to know.....I tend to bend the rules sometimes!
.
You may have notice if you know the name that quite a few of my specimens were purchased from John Call of Va. John and I have been friends and over the years have horse traded back and forth......John is a truly stand up guy.... as well a good friend.
He knows what I like in my collection and is always willing to work with his customers.
Whats funny is John knows that I do have a good eye for details,as well cherry picking...as quite a few times I have given him a heads up on a specimen he has had on ebay that had a tad bite more meat on the bone....being a variety he had not caught.....he did ask me not to cherry pick him ...lol ,as he has seen me in action and knows that I am pretty good at knowing my varieties in general in many series,or knowing where to start my exam to spot something a miss on a coin.
"That's why I wander and follow La Vie Dansante"
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This is a nice V-5, judging from the rim cud on the right side of the obverse.
I meant to say that the V-1 / V-2 "small stars" is best identified from the "rusty arm", rather than from the size of the stars.
And your coin does not have the "rusty arm", so your coin is not a V-1 / V-2 "small stars".
Interesting - I have not seen this before.
What die pair is your coin in terms of LM?
Sounds cool.
What's the date?
It should be one of the "Top 100" LS varieties, since we tried to include all the bisecting die cracks in that list.
https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/1035720/top-100-seated-half-dime-varieties-list-and-112-page-pdf
I don't recall a straight reverse crack in that location, so I'm curious to see it, when you are able again.
I do know of a couple of obverse cracks in that orientation. (1839-o, 1840-o).
I will need to get back to you on this lol as I am sitting here try to recall what the date is.
I have so many to remember.....but I will get to it in a few days and post it .
To be honest its one that i never sell ...well I dont sell my h 10s well not yet....but the crack is like how the hell did that occur type of crack.
"That's why I wander and follow La Vie Dansante"
I have seen a few straight raised lines that did turn out to be knife cuts, where the fin folded over the cut and made it hard to diagnose.
Ill need a couple of days to reply to your questions, as again im post op and working on a brand new hip! So like the tim man I need a little more oiling to get that leg to do as I want it to.
The issues isnt pain ...I flushed all the oxy on my first potty visit when I returned home.....I wont and dont do opioids, Tylenol is what ive been on to maintain any disconfort. And my PT is walking getting my muscle tone back.
I believe that its an 1853 in a pcgs holder.
"That's why I wander and follow La Vie Dansante"
1853-O V-18a has a pretty straight reverse raised edge.
Not sure if it is:
What's funny that the CPG no longer has this in the updated edition. Yet their retraction of the variety was very weak.
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I have five or six of this doubled die obverse variety in XF and AU but no pics. Unfortunately all are cleaned.
I remember this coin as the "Pogue stunner"!
This one is nice for research because it ties together the V-2 cracked obverse (rock to cap)
with the V-3 reverse (die pit in leaf under E of AMERICA).
Neat! Thanks!
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That CherryPicker's Guide blurb on the 1829 LM-3, a VERY COMMON die marriage, made me think that the authors had zero credibility. Almost as if they just decided to make it up. I know they have long histories and lots of research done and well-accepted, but a complete fabrication like that one didn't sit well with me. Basically caused dealers to look for the LM-3 and easily find them and then ask huge prices for them. I sure hope collectors didn't pay extra for any of these.
Find an 1829 LM-3 with a cud on the reverse, then you have something worth some serious cash.
As some would say, the 1829/3 half dime is FAKE NEWS.
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Now I will go nuts until I can get into the vault....as i do believe if my memory serves me it was a 53 maybe o mine the crack runs from like 1k at a 40 /45 degree down through the half dime on a straight path to the 7 k area. Mine is a raised crack with no scar meaning no medal flow from the line.. so like you took a rule and a sharpie and drew a line.
"That's why I wander and follow La Vie Dansante"