@nhlsm666 said:
got several golds and more silvers.. how do you guys predict the price?
Bragging that you cheated the system when so many here didn't even get ONE and suffered through endless refresh's only to be BANNED shows a lack of empathy and poor taste. Have you no shame?
What if these are offered in some forum giveaways?
@Mark1010 said:
Received a reminder from the mint that the silver was available this morning at 0907. By the time I logged on at 0911 they were gone. Anyone get one this morning?
Yep. I got one this morning after a flurry of trying repeatedly.
"What we are never changes, but who we are ... never stops changing."
I bought one earlier this year as a gift and it was around $63.
Same here. One silver, one regular for albums. Then I usually buy a 2nd silver to save. Guess I will get the final mint set this year to finish my albums through 2020 then sell all the sets. Not sustainable with these insane price increases by the mint.
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When in a store and you have something in your cart can people come up and take it out before you get to the register.
If there is one in inventory and you get it in your cart you should at least have a limited time to check out.
" If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. " The 1st Law of Opposition from The Firesign Theater
@HATTRICK said:
When in a store and you have something in your cart can people come up and take it out before you get to the register.
If there is one in inventory and you get it in your cart you should at least have a limited time to check out.
Makes sense, but in the internet era lots of people put stuff in a virtual cart and never buy it. I use ebay's cart to keep an eye on items that I may or may not buy.
@BearlyHere said:
Clear cache and cookies to lift the ban.
Took me an hour yesterday, including half an hour in the cart, but finally got the silver. Got a second one for my son and to the cart but they ran out before I could complete the second check out.
I'm happy, i wanted the coin and not the flip.
Praying for a 70.
be very careful when trying to get a second coin
the mint will cancel all of your orders if they see the same I/P address used or the same mailing address
They enforce the 1 per household rule
There was so much mentioned about this subject on last years ASE limited edition coin
best to use a second computer and a different type of payment or credit card
best of luck
The IP address means nothing. I've ordered multiple pieces from the same IP address dozens of times over the years.
As long as they have different cc numbers and mailing addresses you're fine.
@HATTRICK said:
When in a store and you have something in your cart can people come up and take it out before you get to the register.
If there is one in inventory and you get it in your cart you should at least have a limited time to check out.
Makes sense, but in the internet era lots of people put stuff in a virtual cart and never buy it. I use ebay's cart to keep an eye on items that I may or may not buy.
That is why you use a time limit of one, two or three minutes. Just enough time to complete checkout or it goes back to inventory. I know many venue pre sales and on sales use the hold time limit of several minutes to complete a check out before loosing the seats in your cart.
" If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. " The 1st Law of Opposition from The Firesign Theater
When in a store and you have something in your cart can people come up and take it out before you get to the register.
If there is one in inventory and you get it in your cart you should at least have a limited time to check out.
That wouldn't make any difference as far as the chance of getting one. The same number of people would get them either way, it's just a matter of what's considered the finish line.
I'd like to see them have a first offering for mint customers who meet some criteria for length of registration and purchase history. Give the long time collectors, and dealers, a shot to get them before the unwashed masses who don't give a crap about the hobby.
If they let you put it in the cart and hold it for a few minutes, a lot less people will be able to get it in the cart. I don’t understand how that solves anything.
This nightmare will continue as long as the Mint sells extremely limited issues. Demand is created, and people go nuts trying to get the few coins available. The web site is overwhelmed, things don't work, and people get frustrated. IMO, the answer is (as has been suggested) to sell by demand, keep sales open for a limited period, or increase the size of the issues.
@JeffM said:
This nightmare will continue as long as the Mint sells extremely limited issues. Demand is created, and people go nuts trying to get the few coins available. The web site is overwhelmed, things don't work, and people get frustrated. IMO, the answer is (as has been suggested) to sell by demand, keep sales open for a limited period, or increase the size of the issues.
I hope that the career mint people that read this page read this.
@JeffM said:
This nightmare will continue as long as the Mint sells extremely limited issues. Demand is created, and people go nuts trying to get the few coins available. The web site is overwhelmed, things don't work, and people get frustrated. IMO, the answer is (as has been suggested) to sell by demand, keep sales open for a limited period, or increase the size of the issues.
Except this would result in less demand of course. The excitement was exclusively the limited number available.
Here is just one of the reasons for the MInt's website traffic. These speculators, who have no interest in coins except as an item to make a profit, are ruining it for true collectors:
**_Deal: Make $62 & $525 For Buying Two US Mint Coins Thursday
The U.S. Mint is going to be releasing their End of World War II 75th Anniversary American Eagle Silver Proof Coin and End of World War II 75th Anniversary American Eagle Gold Proof Coin on Thursday, making both hot items for collectors.
As I’m not a coin collector, I don’t have much interest in this, however PFS Buyers Club, which is a coin buying service is offering a $62.05 profit for the Silver Coin and a $525.05 profit for the Gold coin for those who are interested in buying the coin from the U.S. Mint.
Additionally, you’ll earn about $83 in credit card spending for the Silver coin, and $2,550 in credit card spending for the Gold coin since the U.S. Mint accepts credit cards, so if you’re looking for some free manufactured spending, or in need to meet a minimum spend requirement, then this is another reason why you may be interested._**
@JeffM said:
This nightmare will continue as long as the Mint sells extremely limited issues. Demand is created, and people go nuts trying to get the few coins available. The web site is overwhelmed, things don't work, and people get frustrated. IMO, the answer is (as has been suggested) to sell by demand, keep sales open for a limited period, or increase the size of the issues.
It's a Catch-20. If there is mint to demand there will be zero flipping. Seems like a lot of folks here have multiple accounts and people trying to purchase for them exclusively to flip. If you are trying to do so, you can't be upset that other folks are also trying to do so, resulting in not getting what you want. The only folks getting screwed in this are the actual collectors who can't get coins from a series they collect at a reasonable price.
@nhlsm666 said:
got several golds and more silvers.. how do you guys predict the price?
Bragging that you cheated the system when so many here didn't even get ONE and suffered through endless refresh's only to be BANNED shows a lack of empathy and poor taste. Have you no shame?
What if these are offered in some forum giveaways?
While that would be a remote possibility it would still be bragged, blatant cheating. There has to be a penalty for that. The poster, if the claim is true, was personally responsible for the pain and disappointment suffered by forum members.
If you make a deal with this person then you are enabling continued cheating which perpetuates your frustration on future Mint offerings.
@JeffM said:
This nightmare will continue as long as the Mint sells extremely limited issues. Demand is created, and people go nuts trying to get the few coins available. The web site is overwhelmed, things don't work, and people get frustrated. IMO, the answer is (as has been suggested) to sell by demand, keep sales open for a limited period, or increase the size of the issues.
It's a Catch-20. If there is mint to demand there will be zero flipping. Seems like a lot of folks here have multiple accounts and people trying to purchase for them exclusively to flip. If you are trying to do so, you can't be upset that other folks are also trying to do so, resulting in not getting what you want. The only folks getting screwed in this are the actual collectors who can't get coins from a series they collect at a reasonable price.
The 2009 UHR held on to its premium for a while and still is above melt for certain coins and that was minted to demand.
The board: I got 1-5 silvers and made hundreds $. No fair I couldn’t get the gold! I had 2 browsers, 3 computers, my phone, and 9 family members all trying at the right time.
The rest of the board: I'm buying/selling silver/gold on Ebay and BST! Will keep trying for another silver/gold through my “wink” other accounts and “wink” partner.
Everyone: The Mint is the worst! All the things they did to address bitching about bots last year meant extra clicks and refreshes. The flippers and traffic make it impossible for the REAL collectors.
Are you not a flipper or does all your family collect?
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@Mgarmy said:
Are you not a flipper or does all your family collect?
I collect. Got back in after a 30-year break. Like others, I will often try for great value buys. It's just depressing to read these comments. The Mint spent considerable effort to address the boatload of criticism last year. They seem to have hit a home run in allowing individuals to get most of the product. The vast majority of people here who tried got at least a silver and quite a number gold—pretty nice value for not that much time and a pretty great outcome when hundreds of thousands were trying.
@coinJP said:
Did anyone notice that the gold was available starting at 11:50am yesterday? Or was I imagining it. Lol
At that time I was just trying to log into the site and kept getting the Oops... you are not allowed to proceed sign. But I know they were not available at 11:58. If one could have added to cart that early that would have save a lot of time.
@Mgarmy said:
Are you not a flipper or does all your family collect?
I collect. Got back in after a 30 year break. Like others I will often try for great value buys. It's just depressing to read these comments. The Mint spent considerable effort to address the boatload of criticism last year. They seem to have hit a home room in allowing individuals to get most of the product. The vast majority of people here who tried got at least a silver and quite a number gold. Pretty nice value for not that much time and pretty great outcome when hundreds of thousands were trying.
The Mint stinks. If a store made it difficult to even enter and then, when you finally get in, won't let you make a purchase and ban you, do you think those customers will go back and subject themselves to abuse again? Then, if you are even able to make a purchase, you feel like you have been put through a meat grinder.
The Mint has an obligation to serve their customers. If their website can't handle all the traffic they are getting, then they have to fix it so it can handle the volume, or else they should develop a new way of doing business.
@Mark1010 said:
Received a reminder from the mint that the silver was available this morning at 0907. By the time I logged on at 0911 they were gone. Anyone get one this morning?
Yep. I got one this morning after a flurry of trying repeatedly.
The email comes at 9:07...the coins were available at 7:30. Those emails are useless.
did anybody notice that there is now a no household limit on the gold and silver coins?
I just copied these from the mint web site 4:23 Eastern Standard Time.
Do you think that when they open up the item so it can be put into your bag that the household limit becomes one?
If not someone is going to buy all of the remaining coins. LOL
Wonder if that was a day one thing. ( the one per household) Damn looks like the getting up early ERP ritual will begin again
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Ever hear "A day late and a dollar short" ? Some one, any one, at the Mint should have caught this and canceled the auto update. Could be taken as laughing at those "stupid collectors". There could be massive job changes in January ya know. Keep up the pointless, mean spirited and unsympathetic updates funny boy.
? As I was one that got up early for months to get one of the ERP and then bought one from BST to complete my proof ASE collection I am
Not getting your above post. Was that directed at me?
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That is awesome so you got your shipping notice! Cool deal still waiting for mine
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@WAYNEAS said:
did anybody notice that there is now a no household limit on the gold and silver coins?
I just copied these from the mint web site 4:23 Eastern Standard Time.
Do you think that when they open up the item so it can be put into your bag that the household limit becomes one?
If not someone is going to buy all of the remaining coins. LOL
Typically with other releases where there’s a HH limit, it gets lifted after 24 hours. Prolly just an automatic default they forgot to turn off. Pretty sure anyone who is successful in purchasing a second coin on the same account will have that order cancelled.
Well like so much about the mint that makes little sense to me if they wanted to allow max folks to get one... but I believe you
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What if these are offered in some forum giveaways?
It seems to not always used the saved CC. Sometimes have to manually enter. Makes no sense.
If one uses same IP address but two different accounts with different maing addresses and different CCs that should be ok, correct?
Yep. I got one this morning after a flurry of trying repeatedly.
Any one getting a shipping notice?
Yep. I usually buy two a year, one for my albums, one to save. Certainly only buying 1 this year.
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I bought one earlier this year as a gift and it was around $63.
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Same here. One silver, one regular for albums. Then I usually buy a 2nd silver to save. Guess I will get the final mint set this year to finish my albums through 2020 then sell all the sets. Not sustainable with these insane price increases by the mint.
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Apparently if you leave the website open long enough this shows up.
Collector, occasional seller
When in a store and you have something in your cart can people come up and take it out before you get to the register.
If there is one in inventory and you get it in your cart you should at least have a limited time to check out.
^^ Agree
Makes sense, but in the internet era lots of people put stuff in a virtual cart and never buy it. I use ebay's cart to keep an eye on items that I may or may not buy.
The IP address means nothing. I've ordered multiple pieces from the same IP address dozens of times over the years.
As long as they have different cc numbers and mailing addresses you're fine.
That is why you use a time limit of one, two or three minutes. Just enough time to complete checkout or it goes back to inventory. I know many venue pre sales and on sales use the hold time limit of several minutes to complete a check out before loosing the seats in your cart.
@HATTRICK said:
That wouldn't make any difference as far as the chance of getting one. The same number of people would get them either way, it's just a matter of what's considered the finish line.
I'd like to see them have a first offering for mint customers who meet some criteria for length of registration and purchase history. Give the long time collectors, and dealers, a shot to get them before the unwashed masses who don't give a crap about the hobby.
Yes, that's a better way, but the time limit needs to be a bit longer due to the site's crashes.
If they let you put it in the cart and hold it for a few minutes, a lot less people will be able to get it in the cart. I don’t understand how that solves anything.
This is a zero sum game.
This nightmare will continue as long as the Mint sells extremely limited issues. Demand is created, and people go nuts trying to get the few coins available. The web site is overwhelmed, things don't work, and people get frustrated. IMO, the answer is (as has been suggested) to sell by demand, keep sales open for a limited period, or increase the size of the issues.
I hope that the career mint people that read this page read this.
Except this would result in less demand of course. The excitement was exclusively the limited number available.
Here is just one of the reasons for the MInt's website traffic. These speculators, who have no interest in coins except as an item to make a profit, are ruining it for true collectors:
**_Deal: Make $62 & $525 For Buying Two US Mint Coins Thursday
The U.S. Mint is going to be releasing their End of World War II 75th Anniversary American Eagle Silver Proof Coin and End of World War II 75th Anniversary American Eagle Gold Proof Coin on Thursday, making both hot items for collectors.
As I’m not a coin collector, I don’t have much interest in this, however PFS Buyers Club, which is a coin buying service is offering a $62.05 profit for the Silver Coin and a $525.05 profit for the Gold coin for those who are interested in buying the coin from the U.S. Mint.
Additionally, you’ll earn about $83 in credit card spending for the Silver coin, and $2,550 in credit card spending for the Gold coin since the U.S. Mint accepts credit cards, so if you’re looking for some free manufactured spending, or in need to meet a minimum spend requirement, then this is another reason why you may be interested._**
The Mint Director is appointed by the President and confirmed in the Senate.
My US Mint Commemorative Medal Set
Got my shipping notice at 11:21am EST.
It's a Catch-20. If there is mint to demand there will be zero flipping. Seems like a lot of folks here have multiple accounts and people trying to purchase for them exclusively to flip. If you are trying to do so, you can't be upset that other folks are also trying to do so, resulting in not getting what you want. The only folks getting screwed in this are the actual collectors who can't get coins from a series they collect at a reasonable price.
While that would be a remote possibility it would still be bragged, blatant cheating. There has to be a penalty for that. The poster, if the claim is true, was personally responsible for the pain and disappointment suffered by forum members.
If you make a deal with this person then you are enabling continued cheating which perpetuates your frustration on future Mint offerings.
The 2009 UHR held on to its premium for a while and still is above melt for certain coins and that was minted to demand.
The board: I got 1-5 silvers and made hundreds $. No fair I couldn’t get the gold! I had 2 browsers, 3 computers, my phone, and 9 family members all trying at the right time.
The rest of the board: I'm buying/selling silver/gold on Ebay and BST! Will keep trying for another silver/gold through my “wink” other accounts and “wink” partner.
Everyone: The Mint is the worst! All the things they did to address bitching about bots last year meant extra clicks and refreshes. The flippers and traffic make it impossible for the REAL collectors.
Are you not a flipper or does all your family collect?
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Did anyone notice that the gold was available starting at 11:50am yesterday? Or was I imagining it. Lol
The gold was not available 11:50 am yesterday but the website crashes started then.
I collect. Got back in after a 30-year break. Like others, I will often try for great value buys. It's just depressing to read these comments. The Mint spent considerable effort to address the boatload of criticism last year. They seem to have hit a home run in allowing individuals to get most of the product. The vast majority of people here who tried got at least a silver and quite a number gold—pretty nice value for not that much time and a pretty great outcome when hundreds of thousands were trying.
At that time I was just trying to log into the site and kept getting the Oops... you are not allowed to proceed sign. But I know they were not available at 11:58. If one could have added to cart that early that would have save a lot of time.
The Mint stinks. If a store made it difficult to even enter and then, when you finally get in, won't let you make a purchase and ban you, do you think those customers will go back and subject themselves to abuse again? Then, if you are even able to make a purchase, you feel like you have been put through a meat grinder.
The Mint has an obligation to serve their customers. If their website can't handle all the traffic they are getting, then they have to fix it so it can handle the volume, or else they should develop a new way of doing business.
At least we don’t have to pay income tax on all that profit 😢😢😢🤧🤧🤧
The email comes at 9:07...the coins were available at 7:30. Those emails are useless.
I'm letting it sit.
Still Stuck as of right now!
Now I just got a DDOS firewall trying to access the site.
Same here.
Still no mint email from orders yesterday
did anybody notice that there is now a no household limit on the gold and silver coins?
I just copied these from the mint web site 4:23 Eastern Standard Time.
Do you think that when they open up the item so it can be put into your bag that the household limit becomes one?
If not someone is going to buy all of the remaining coins. LOL
GOLD
Item Number: 20XE
Mintage Limit: 1945
Product Limit: 1945
Household Order Limit: None
SILVER
Item Number: 20XF
Mintage Limit: 75,000
Product Limit: 75,000
Household Order Limit: None
Kennedys are my quest...
Wonder if that was a day one thing. ( the one per household) Damn looks like the getting up early ERP ritual will begin again
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Ever hear "A day late and a dollar short" ? Some one, any one, at the Mint should have caught this and canceled the auto update. Could be taken as laughing at those "stupid collectors". There could be massive job changes in January ya know. Keep up the pointless, mean spirited and unsympathetic updates funny boy.
? As I was one that got up early for months to get one of the ERP and then bought one from BST to complete my proof ASE collection I am
Not getting your above post. Was that directed at me?
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My single silver will arrive mid day Tuesday 10th according to the latest label update from UPS.
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That is awesome so you got your shipping notice! Cool deal still waiting for mine
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The mint purposely put the HHL for only 24 hours. It was in one of their press releases.
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Typically with other releases where there’s a HH limit, it gets lifted after 24 hours. Prolly just an automatic default they forgot to turn off. Pretty sure anyone who is successful in purchasing a second coin on the same account will have that order cancelled.
.> @Mgarmy said:
Yes, it is fast for the Mint order handlers in Memphis.
My one coin shipment was entered into UPS tracking at 12:30PM West Coast time
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Well like so much about the mint that makes little sense to me if they wanted to allow max folks to get one... but I believe you
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I don't understand why they lifted the HHL. It was stated that it wouldn't be lifted for the 2019S ERP....
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