@Kliao said:
No release. Will we see the sales figures today?
I think these are done. I don't foresee any being returned and relisted. Any on hand should be out the door by now. If a few do pop open the chances to snag one is thin. If this was at a different time than 3:30 I might still play but I am done with setting alarms. Good luck to you guys, I will have to check in to see if I made a mistake. Be ready for tomorrow!!
@Egger said:
Maybe they are holding whats left and trying to figure out how to stop the bots ?
More conspiracy theories. This is exactly how EVERY new release works if the coin sells out.
The coins (all of them) are released.
They sell them all, it goes "unavailable"
There are cancellations and returns. This makes a few randomly available at 7:30 a.m. Eastern time.
Once the 30 day return window closes, they will go to "sold out" if they have hit the maximum.
For some issues with excessive returns (this won't be one), they exhaust their back up replacement supply. In that case, it is sometimes possible that new coins would need to be minted. The item will stay "unavailable", in that case, until the decision is made to either mint the extras or just go "sold out" at a lower number.
There is nothing unusual going on with this issue. There is nothing nefarious going on. This is normal Mint behavior as any Mint regular customer will tell you.
@Egger said:
Maybe they are holding whats left and trying to figure out how to stop the bots ?
Yes the bots are checking restocks for this coin. You don't have to believe me you just have to look in twitter ig discord and facebook. From selling shoes and funko to selling multiple coins yeah the mint didn't get botted...
Isn't the return window now 7 days & not 30 anymore? If so then the opportunity to return is about closed. I bet the last of these were delivered nearly a week ago. Anyone?
@kimber45ACP said:
pop reports look sad for the 70's
Looks like majority are 70's so far - isn't that high?
(unlike my personal 5/12 rate)
The ratio is always deceptive. Some of the big guys submit them as "70 only". That will always make the yield of 70s appear higher than it actually is.
The main results will now be for the First Strike 807001 going forward and currently it is (52) 69's and (68) 70's. That's a 56% chance of a 70. It may change as more coins come in, but not looking too good so far.
The 807001 is where the action is going to be going forward, there may be very few of the others added to the report, if any. Those numbers are pretty much done.
@Kliao said:
Still no release of the sales figures
29,934
How do you know???
Just an estimate. I'm not sure why anyone thinks there is much of a surprise in the number.
I want to know because if the number is very close to 30k then I’m not gonna get up early anymore
there's no doubt the number is very close to 30k. They sold 30,000 on the first day. The sold some cancellations in the next couple of days. At this point, it's usually returns that are coming out and I guarantee there were almost no returns on this set due to the price hike.
They always sell until their gone. They would not have gone "unavailable" if they had a couple thousand lying around. You may get another day with a handful of releases, but it could be weeks from now.
@BigA said:
It's just weird that the weekly numbers haven't been released for a month....
Could it be because of the ERP?
ABSOLUTELY UNEQUIVOCALLY NOT!!!
This issue is so insignificant relative to everything else the Mint sells. Only the obsessives among us have made this into the Earth and the Moon...and a reason to be on the computer at 7:30 a.m. just in case.
@Onedollarnohollar said:
is everyone still doing the alarm clock thing tomorrow morning? are we losing sleep over nothing?
You may get a few more. But it could also be a month or more from now.
It would help if I knew this sales figures.
No, it really wouldn't. Even if the sales figure is 29,800 that does NOT necessarily mean that 200 will appear EVER. You're obsessing over a relatively meaningless number. It's going to be in the high 29,000s, anything more specific is not informative.
This is where the main populations going forward will be input. The other categories are just about done, especially the First day of Issues and Baltimore labels
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I think these are done. I don't foresee any being returned and relisted. Any on hand should be out the door by now. If a few do pop open the chances to snag one is thin. If this was at a different time than 3:30 I might still play but I am done with setting alarms. Good luck to you guys, I will have to check in to see if I made a mistake. Be ready for tomorrow!!
More conspiracy theories. This is exactly how EVERY new release works if the coin sells out.
There is nothing unusual going on with this issue. There is nothing nefarious going on. This is normal Mint behavior as any Mint regular customer will tell you.
Yes the bots are checking restocks for this coin. You don't have to believe me you just have to look in twitter ig discord and facebook. From selling shoes and funko to selling multiple coins yeah the mint didn't get botted...
Isn't the return window now 7 days & not 30 anymore? If so then the opportunity to return is about closed. I bet the last of these were delivered nearly a week ago. Anyone?
Latest sales on eBay today have firmed up again...ranging anywhere from the high $1200's to low 1400's...
Considering the volume that are being offered...the spread is not actually very large.
Wow! $1400+?
Devil's Advocate time... Some people are using bots to order. Why's that a problem?
pop report look sad for the 70's compared with the 69's
Looks like majority are 70's so far - isn't that high?
(unlike my personal 5/12 rate)
Looking for trouble? Stick to the CAC thread.
The ratio is always deceptive. Some of the big guys submit them as "70 only". That will always make the yield of 70s appear higher than it actually is.
The spread between 69 and 70 is rather small compared to other SAE's.
The main results will now be for the First Strike 807001 going forward and currently it is (52) 69's and (68) 70's. That's a 56% chance of a 70. It may change as more coins come in, but not looking too good so far.
Its a reverse proof, it was expected that there would be a lot of 70's upfront
The 807001 is where the action is going to be going forward, there may be very few of the others added to the report, if any. Those numbers are pretty much done.
I would think more 70's shows an excellent quality product...It is what it is...
Still no release of the sales figures
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29,934
How do you know???
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Just an estimate. I'm not sure why anyone thinks there is much of a surprise in the number.
Fake news
National Commemorative Medals of the U.S. Mint:
https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/u-s-coins/medals-tokens/national-commemorative-medals-united-states-mint-1940-present/alltimeset/195526
just a joke - hence the smiley face.
I want to know because if the number is very close to 30k then I’m not gonna get up early anymore
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No release today
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just a joke - hence the smiley face.> @Kliao said:
there's no doubt the number is very close to 30k. They sold 30,000 on the first day. The sold some cancellations in the next couple of days. At this point, it's usually returns that are coming out and I guarantee there were almost no returns on this set due to the price hike.
They always sell until their gone. They would not have gone "unavailable" if they had a couple thousand lying around. You may get another day with a handful of releases, but it could be weeks from now.
It's just weird that the weekly numbers haven't been released for a month....
Could it be because of the ERP?
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The numbers release stopped well over a week BEFORE the ERP was released...November 3rd
Trump ordered them not to release any information.
They can't be SOLD OUT - I have one in my cart!!!!!
Same here!
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He needs to keep everything secret
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ABSOLUTELY UNEQUIVOCALLY NOT!!!
This issue is so insignificant relative to everything else the Mint sells. Only the obsessives among us have made this into the Earth and the Moon...and a reason to be on the computer at 7:30 a.m. just in case.
is everyone still doing the alarm clock thing tomorrow morning? are we losing sleep over nothing?
I’m still doing it. It fits into my morning schedule as it’s 6:30 CDT for me
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You may get a few more. But it could also be a month or more from now.
It would help if I knew this sales figures.
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No release today
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You are persistent
persistent, stubborn, determined...this is how we do it
Not just me. I’m sure others are
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PCGS score as of 12/05/2019, 2019-s enhanced Siover American Eagles, Proof-69 339.
Proof-70 504
I don’t think NGC has any pop numbers yet
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No, it really wouldn't. Even if the sales figure is 29,800 that does NOT necessarily mean that 200 will appear EVER. You're obsessing over a relatively meaningless number. It's going to be in the high 29,000s, anything more specific is not informative.
NGC 2019-S silver American Eagle count as of 12/05/2019, Proof-69 106, proof-70 1345
This is where the main populations going forward will be input. The other categories are just about done, especially the First day of Issues and Baltimore labels
Someone scored:
Compleat signed lot
https://www.ebay.com/itm/2019-S-Silver-Eagle-Enhanced-Reverse-Proof-PCGS-PR70-Baltimore-Coin-13-Signed/352865416724?hash=item52286af614:g:2pkAAOSwZEdd3xaw
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I wonder how much it will bring at auction
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