@BigA said:
Hmmmm...as of Last Friday MCM alone has sold 120 NGC 69 graded coins...and Pinehurst originally had well over 275 NGC 69's on sale...and that's only two dealers ..That's from a week ago
If this is on eBay, I believe both their listings are pre-sales.
@jsatterlee1946 said:
Total 2019-s Enhance silver Eagles graded by NGC & PCGS
NGC Proof 69 -21 Proof 70 198
PCGS Proof 69 - 143 Proof 70-281
Quite a difference, don't you think?
Thank you for posting and yes it shows our host it harder to get a 70. Almost 50% harder.
While NGC you have almost an 80% chance of getting a 70. If I was a FLIPPER I would be sending to #@# and not #@#@.
In my experience, Iv'e sent in several NGC Proof 70 graded ASE's to PCGS for crossover and not a one of the coins would make the grade at PCGS.
@jsatterlee1946 said:
Total 2019-s Enhance silver Eagles graded by NGC & PCGS
NGC Proof 69 -21 Proof 70 198
PCGS Proof 69 - 143 Proof 70-281
Quite a difference, don't you think?
Thank you for posting and yes it shows our host it harder to get a 70. Almost 50% harder.
While NGC you have almost an 80% chance of getting a 70. If I was a FLIPPER I would be sending to #@# and not #@#@.
In my experience, Iv'e sent in several NGC Proof 70 graded ASE's to PCGS for crossover and not a one of the coins would make the grade at PCGS.
Me too I though I would make a quick buck but got stuck with 69s. I stuck the somewhere in the Vault and forgot about them. Makes you wonder which one is right other than Grading is VERY SUBJECTIVE.
Total 1995-W proof ASE's graded by NGC & PCGS
NGC-proof 70 -615
PCGS proof -70 -382
Total proof -70 =997
We'll have to see what the total numbers graded at proof 70 for the 2019-s Enhanced ASE's
end up and compare to see what the Value of the 2019-s will be to the 1995-W.
IMHO.
@jabba said:
I tried again to day even though I new there wouldn’t be anything on a holiday guess desperation is taking over
Don’t worry Jabba I bet I was there more times than you today!
How is the Weather where you are at? Up here in Alaska, Had about 1 “ of snow before the big rain down pour. Now it’s just solid rain. Took the plow last night and removed the 2” of Slush on the drive way! Dogs don’t even want to go out side! Happy thanks giving!
There are 71 people watching the EBAY bid which ends in 27 hours. That’s a lot of eye, it’s a Pre-Sale for a 69:NGC Grade SanFrancisco Label, nothing extravagant. AMAZING 71 watchers.
@jabba said:
I tried again to day even though I new there wouldn’t be anything on a holiday guess desperation is taking over
Don’t worry Jabba I bet I was there more times than you today!
How is the Weather where you are at? Up here in Alaska, Had about 1 “ of snow before the big rain down pour. Now it’s just solid rain. Took the plow last night and removed the 2” of Slush on the drive way! Dogs don’t even want to go out side! Happy thanks giving!
@Gluggo here in Eastern Washington state it’s cold and windy not much snow yet
@jsatterlee1946 said:
Total 2019-s Enhance silver Eagles graded by NGC & PCGS
NGC Proof 69 -21 Proof 70 198
PCGS Proof 69 - 143 Proof 70-281
Quite a difference, don't you think?
Thank you for posting and yes it shows our host it harder to get a 70. Almost 50% harder.
While NGC you have almost an 80% chance of getting a 70. If I was a FLIPPER I would be sending to #@# and not #@#@.
@jsatterlee1946 said:
I agree but I have #@#@ registry set. Have to stick with #
@jsatterlee1946 said:
Total 2019-s Enhance silver Eagles graded by NGC & PCGS
NGC Proof 69 -21 Proof 70 198
PCGS Proof 69 - 143 Proof 70-281
Quite a difference, don't you think?
Thank you for posting and yes it shows our host it harder to get a 70. Almost 50% harder.
While NGC you have almost an 80% chance of getting a 70. If I was a FLIPPER I would be sending to #@# and not #@#@.
@jsatterlee1946 said:
I agree but I have #@#@ registry set. Have to stick with #
@Gluggo said:
There are 71 people watching the EBAY bid which ends in 27 hours. That’s a lot of eye, it’s a Pre-Sale for a 69:NGC Grade SanFrancisco Label, nothing extravagant. AMAZING 71 watchers.
That coin is several hundred back of raw coins. Nothing terribly exciting there.
Question...did anyone get one in a larger box than normal? Most of the ones I saw were in boxes about 1 inch tall, but I saw one today in a box that was about a big lengthwise and width, but was about 3-4 inches tall.
@opportunity said:
Question...did anyone get one in a larger box than normal? Most of the ones I saw were in boxes about 1 inch tall, but I saw one today in a box that was about a big lengthwise and width, but was about 3-4 inches tall.
Yep. They sent some loosely in an oversized box.
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@opportunity said:
Question...did anyone get one in a larger box than normal? Most of the ones I saw were in boxes about 1 inch tall, but I saw one today in a box that was about a big lengthwise and width, but was about 3-4 inches tall.
@BigA said:
Hmmmm...as of Last Friday MCM alone has sold 120 NGC 69 graded coins...and Pinehurst originally had well over 275 NGC 69's on sale...and that's only two dealers ..That's from a week ago
If this is on eBay, I believe both their listings are pre-sales.
The numbers were taken from their websites....the Pinehurst 69's were presales. I assume the MCM's were also but not specified. The point was that it is WAAAAY too early to say what the ratio's will be...but....the PCGS and NGC 70's are selling for the same price on Pinehurst anyway
nobody selling these at black friday prices today? looks like about $1400, boxed or raw. also looks like a lot of the boxed ones have been tampered with to see what the coa looks like before re-sealing it. I'm not a buyer anyway at these prices. no budget for it. I'm just anxious to get my results back, for the one I was lucky enough to get on the first day, from our hosts. then the debate begins, hold or sell.
@jsatterlee1946 said:
Total 2019-s Enhance silver Eagles graded by NGC & PCGS
NGC Proof 69 -21 Proof 70 198
PCGS Proof 69 - 143 Proof 70-281
Quite a difference, don't you think?
Thank you for posting and yes it shows our host it harder to get a 70. Almost 50% harder.
While NGC you have almost an 80% chance of getting a 70. If I was a FLIPPER I would be sending to #@# and not #@#@.
@jsatterlee1946 said:
I agree but I have #@#@ registry set. Have to stick with #
Jsatterlee you were close. I just use 4 space for our host since there are 4 letters.
3 spaces for NGC so as not to violate any rules should they apply. If I threw in a picture of a coin that was to help the post with staying with the rules of showing a coin on your posts. Silly I know. That’s all.
Also I noticed ALL 4 of the coins for sale on BST were sold with people asking $1350.00 looks like everything went well. BST serves a great cause a great place to buy and sell.
There are many cancellations, not of mint orders, but of eBay orders. Even some dealer sell orders or expected deliveries will be cancelled. This is a frenzy now, that will die down soon.
@Gluggo said:
Sorry jabba maybe Monday! I don’t know why but I am feeling like maybe Monday could be the day. After the Holiday back to work including the Mints!
I'm hoping so. A couple weeks of this 3am computer surfing is starting to take the fun out of the hunt
never give up never give in (Tim Allen sci fi movie)... it's 4 am for me but it's worth it. one question I have still is "I have one in my bag still on the mint website" will the red line statement of "not available" disappear without doing anything but pushing the place order button or does the page have to be refreshed? or does anybody really know?
@Onedollarnohollar said:
...one question I have still is "I have one in my bag still on the mint website" will the red line statement of "not available" disappear without doing anything but pushing the place order button or does the page have to be refreshed? or does anybody really know?
I also have one in my cart, since Sat 11/16, but I haven’t found that speeds up checkout. I’ve tried with both PayPal & cc, and if I refresh the checkout page with an “invalid item” in cart, all payment & address fields are zeroed out and have to be reselected from saved options. Repeatedly hitting place order @730am wouldn’t seem to do anything without refreshing & capturing a brief availability window. I don’t expect anyone to divulge the secret if there is one in this situation, these are just my observations.
@Onedollarnohollar said:
never give up never give in (Tim Allen sci fi movie)... it's 4 am for me but it's worth it. one question I have still is "I have one in my bag still on the mint website" will the red line statement of "not available" disappear without doing anything but pushing the place order button or does the page have to be refreshed? or does anybody really know?
The "Almost Had It" moments I have had where but repeatedly hitting refresh and seeing the Not Available sign go away. it is obvious it is now active and in your cart. Then the race is on to checkout and survive the "processing" demon, who seems to freeze my progress.
"Waiting on PCGS to open on Monday to see if I can get the SanFrancisco label or is that only for DEALERS. "
I wonder if I can switch labels from first strike to this golden gate version. They've received it but it is still waiting to be put in their order system. I too will be calling on Monday.
@Onedollarnohollar said:
"Waiting on PCGS to open on Monday to see if I can get the SanFrancisco label or is that only for DEALERS. "
I wonder if I can switch labels from first strike to this golden gate version. They've received it but it is still waiting to be put in their order system. I too will be calling on Monday.
It can’t hurt to ask. I remember during the Apollo coins Or during that time frame, they let me encapsulate two of the coins into a single holder. But I remember they had just decided to Stop offering it the nice person at PCGS walked the order back and I was able to get it.
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They might be betting on the come. Pre-Sale.
If this is on eBay, I believe both their listings are pre-sales.
I got the numbers of the graded Silver Eagles off of there web pages.
In my experience, Iv'e sent in several NGC Proof 70 graded ASE's to PCGS for crossover and not a one of the coins would make the grade at PCGS.
Unless> @jsatterlee1946 said:
Me too I though I would make a quick buck but got stuck with 69s. I stuck the somewhere in the Vault and forgot about them. Makes you wonder which one is right other than Grading is VERY SUBJECTIVE.
I can't tell the difference between Proof 69 and Proof 70 myself.
I tried again to day even though I new there wouldn’t be anything on a holiday guess desperation is taking over
https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/quarters/washington-quarters-major-sets/washington-quarters-date-set-circulation-strikes-1932-present/publishedset/209923
https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/quarters/washington-quarters-major-sets/washington-quarters-date-set-circulation-strikes-1932-present/album/209923
Total 1995-W proof ASE's graded by NGC & PCGS
NGC-proof 70 -615
PCGS proof -70 -382
Total proof -70 =997
We'll have to see what the total numbers graded at proof 70 for the 2019-s Enhanced ASE's
end up and compare to see what the Value of the 2019-s will be to the 1995-W.
IMHO.
Don’t worry Jabba I bet I was there more times than you today!
Dogs don’t even want to go out side! Happy thanks giving!
How is the Weather where you are at? Up here in Alaska, Had about 1 “ of snow before the big rain down pour. Now it’s just solid rain. Took the plow last night and removed the 2” of Slush on the drive way!
There are 71 people watching the EBAY bid which ends in 27 hours. That’s a lot of eye, it’s a Pre-Sale for a 69:NGC Grade SanFrancisco Label, nothing extravagant. AMAZING 71 watchers.
@Gluggo here in Eastern Washington state it’s cold and windy not much snow yet
https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/quarters/washington-quarters-major-sets/washington-quarters-date-set-circulation-strikes-1932-present/publishedset/209923
https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/quarters/washington-quarters-major-sets/washington-quarters-date-set-circulation-strikes-1932-present/album/209923
What's going on with #@#@ and #@# symbols?
If you @cameonut2011 it alerts that person they where mentioned in a post
https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/quarters/washington-quarters-major-sets/washington-quarters-date-set-circulation-strikes-1932-present/publishedset/209923
https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/quarters/washington-quarters-major-sets/washington-quarters-date-set-circulation-strikes-1932-present/album/209923
That is safe way to spell what Gluggo or I am going to say if the submissions we sent in get a 68.
National Commemorative Medals of the U.S. Mint:
https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/u-s-coins/medals-tokens/national-commemorative-medals-united-states-mint-1940-present/alltimeset/195526
That coin is several hundred back of raw coins. Nothing terribly exciting there.
Question...did anyone get one in a larger box than normal? Most of the ones I saw were in boxes about 1 inch tall, but I saw one today in a box that was about a big lengthwise and width, but was about 3-4 inches tall.
Early American Copper, Bust and Seated.
Yep. They sent some loosely in an oversized box.
Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value. Zero. Voltaire. Ebay coinbowlllc
Loosely?
Early American Copper, Bust and Seated.
Yes. Loosely rattling around inside the oversized box.
Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value. Zero. Voltaire. Ebay coinbowlllc
The numbers were taken from their websites....the Pinehurst 69's were presales. I assume the MCM's were also but not specified. The point was that it is WAAAAY too early to say what the ratio's will be...but....the PCGS and NGC 70's are selling for the same price on Pinehurst anyway
I don't think any became available today, at least it didn't pop up for me.
No release today
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nobody selling these at black friday prices today? looks like about $1400, boxed or raw. also looks like a lot of the boxed ones have been tampered with to see what the coa looks like before re-sealing it. I'm not a buyer anyway at these prices. no budget for it. I'm just anxious to get my results back, for the one I was lucky enough to get on the first day, from our hosts. then the debate begins, hold or sell.
I wanna 90% off deal for Black Friday!
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Jsatterlee you were close. I just use 4 space for our host since there are 4 letters.
That’s all.
3 spaces for NGC so as not to violate any rules should they apply. If I threw in a picture of a coin that was to help the post with staying with the rules of showing a coin on your posts. Silly I know.
Also I noticed ALL 4 of the coins for sale on BST were sold with people asking $1350.00 looks like everything went well. BST serves a great cause a great place to buy and sell.
Soon the price will be $2000!
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Was this the most a Mint coin ever appreciated in value? At $1,400 right now, this represents an almost 2,000% ROI! And it's still going up, insane.
Total speculation and FOMO. This level of irrational demand always ends badly.
National Commemorative Medals of the U.S. Mint:
https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/u-s-coins/medals-tokens/national-commemorative-medals-united-states-mint-1940-present/alltimeset/195526
dealers gotta fill them preorders. they can't risk ruining their reputation and cancelling those. Most of the ebay sales are to dealers.
Agree though, it makes prices boom short term.
There are many cancellations, not of mint orders, but of eBay orders. Even some dealer sell orders or expected deliveries will be cancelled. This is a frenzy now, that will die down soon.
National Commemorative Medals of the U.S. Mint:
https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/u-s-coins/medals-tokens/national-commemorative-medals-united-states-mint-1940-present/alltimeset/195526
No release today
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Yes, didn't see any availability. It sure would be nice to know if....
Prices still creeping up. Saturday auction 1 hour left over $1300
Agreed. I was going to hold a couple for a while. Now i'm selling them all.
I holding one right now........., might sell too
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I only have one to hold
Waiting on PCGS to open on Monday to see if I can get the SanFrancisco label
or is that only for DEALERS. 
I’ve managed to keep one in my cart since last time nothing today 😢
https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/quarters/washington-quarters-major-sets/washington-quarters-date-set-circulation-strikes-1932-present/publishedset/209923
https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/quarters/washington-quarters-major-sets/washington-quarters-date-set-circulation-strikes-1932-present/album/209923
Sorry jabba maybe Monday!
I don’t know why but I am feeling like maybe Monday could be the day. After the Holiday back to work including the Mints! 
I'm hoping so. A couple weeks of this 3am computer surfing is starting to take the fun out of the hunt
never give up never give in (Tim Allen sci fi movie)... it's 4 am for me but it's worth it. one question I have still is "I have one in my bag still on the mint website" will the red line statement of "not available" disappear without doing anything but pushing the place order button or does the page have to be refreshed? or does anybody really know?
I also have one in my cart, since Sat 11/16, but I haven’t found that speeds up checkout. I’ve tried with both PayPal & cc, and if I refresh the checkout page with an “invalid item” in cart, all payment & address fields are zeroed out and have to be reselected from saved options. Repeatedly hitting place order @730am wouldn’t seem to do anything without refreshing & capturing a brief availability window. I don’t expect anyone to divulge the secret if there is one in this situation, these are just my observations.
The "Almost Had It" moments I have had where but repeatedly hitting refresh and seeing the Not Available sign go away. it is obvious it is now active and in your cart. Then the race is on to checkout and survive the "processing" demon, who seems to freeze my progress.
I am well aware.
That looks like a nice holder!
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"Waiting on PCGS to open on Monday to see if I can get the SanFrancisco label
or is that only for DEALERS. 
"
I wonder if I can switch labels from first strike to this golden gate version. They've received it but it is still waiting to be put in their order system. I too will be calling on Monday.
Is this the first time PCGS has used a core that’s painted? I only seen them on NGC slabs
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It can’t hurt to ask. I remember during the Apollo coins Or during that time frame, they let me encapsulate two of the coins into a single holder. But I remember they had just decided to Stop offering it the nice person at PCGS walked the order back and I was able to get it.
No release
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