@DotStore said:
Now that the Uncirculated Mint Sets are out, can you only get a Rocketship Label if you send in the sealed shipping box from the U.S. Mint? I'm thinking any loose Rocketship Set might contain a Half Dollar from the Uncirulated Mint Set.
Probably won't have to be in a sealed box unless you're looking at a FS label.
The Rocketship packaging is pretty tamper proof. I assume (and you should call) that a rocketship attribute should be achievable so long as it's in it's original packaging...
I guess I was thinking the Rocketship packaging was NOT Tamper proof. I thought it was possible to open the sticky flap, swap out the half dollar with one from the Uncirculated Mint Set, and then seal it back up.
I'm not really a "Label" Collector - so it doesn't matter to me if it came from the Rocketship or the Uncirculated Mint set (or whatever else set includes a Kennedy Half with an Uncirculated Finish). I was just curious if you sent the TPG a single Rocketship Set (not in the US Mint Sealed Shipping Box), how can the TPG know with 100% Certainty that the Half Dollar was the original Half and not one that came from a different set...
Probably trusting the submitter and the submitter is putting their signature on the line. Line 11 on the submission form to be specific.
Having honesty and integrity is a good way to live, IMHO.
I haven’t been following this discussion all too closely, but why would anyone want to remove an MS67 or MS68 or MS69 RS Kennedy and replace it with an MS65 or MS66 Mint Set Kennedy? Unless they were competing in the “lowball” sets?
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@wondercoin said:
I haven’t been following this discussion all too closely, but why would anyone want to remove an MS67 or MS68 or MS69 RS Kennedy and replace it with an MS65 or MS66 Mint Set Kennedy? Unless they were competing in the “lowball” sets?
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I'm guessing there's some kind of fancy math here. Is the value of a straight MS68 + MS66 PL better than an MS68 PL?
Personally, I'd assume they'd do the opposite. Take out an MS65 and replace it with a better coin hoping to get the 68 PL Rocketship designation.
Yes, thank you Mas. Supports my point even more. Why would anyone search hundreds of mint sets to possibly find an MS67 coin or two in order to replace that coin into a RS Kennedy set that routinely can come MS68 or even better?
By the way, we finally completed (almost all) the submissions on 2018 mint sets. So, we hope pops will increase somewhat on most of the coins. Strangely, speaking of Kennedy coins, our 2018 experience was similar to Tetromibi with his 2019 sets. Our D mint Kennedy coins were a bit nicer than our P mint coins. Current Pops do not reflect this (47 P vs. 18 D). Luck of the draw.
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@wondercoin said:
Yes, thank you Mas. Supports my point even more. Why would anyone search hundreds of mint sets to possibly find an MS67 coin or two in order to replace that coin into a RS Kennedy set that routinely can come MS68 or even better?
By the way, we finally completed (almost all) the submissions on 2018 mint sets. So, we hope pops will increase somewhat on most of the coins. Strangely, speaking of Kennedy coins, our 2018 experience was similar to Tetromibi with his 2019 sets. Our D mint Kennedy coins were a bit nicer than our P mint coins. Current Pops do not reflect this (47 P vs. 18 D). Luck of the draw.
Wondercoin.
As always pop's will grow.. Always have coins in the line, with several
hundred 2018 mint sets left to go !!!
@Sweetpie said:
Any idea how many were available on previous 2 days?
Had lunch yesterday with someone I consider a "reliable source" The Rocketship sets came up during our conversation, and I was curious how close they were to the Product Limit of 50K. He pulls out his iPhone and after he scrolled around his iPhone screen for a few seconds, he mentioned about 421 were available this week (that was through Saturday morning)...
@Sweetpie said:
Any idea how many were available on previous 2 days?
Had lunch yesterday with someone I consider a "reliable source" The Rocketship sets came up during our conversation, and I was curious how close they were to the Product Limit of 50K. He pulls out his iPhone and after he scrolled around his iPhone screen for a few seconds, he mentioned about 421 were available this week (that was through Saturday morning)...
so if the web site says "product no longer available" how do you order them? call direct to the mint as the "notify me when available" never notifies me?
@Sweetpie said:
Any idea how many were available on previous 2 days?
Had lunch yesterday with someone I consider a "reliable source" The Rocketship sets came up during our conversation, and I was curious how close they were to the Product Limit of 50K. He pulls out his iPhone and after he scrolled around his iPhone screen for a few seconds, he mentioned about 421 were available this week (that was through Saturday morning)...
so if the web site says "product no longer available" how do you order them? call direct to the mint as the "notify me when available" never notifies me?
For "high demand" products you have to be ready to order right when they become available on the site. Page 7 of this thread has multiple posts talking about exactly what time to check for availability. Just remember, for the really "high demand" products you might only have a few minutes (or few seconds) to order -- depending on how many of the product they make available and how many other buyers you are competing against...
I guess we'll see if the numbers confirm this. They should be north of 49,600+ as of Sunday if true
w/e 5/19 49,188
w/e 5/26 49,609 +421
Did you manage to snag any?
Multi-window refresh and no add button this AM.
Yes, I snagged a few on 2 out of the 3 days they were available. But if you are just trying to collect the Half Dollar in "PL", then the Uncirculated Mint Sets appear to have the exact same Half Dollar in "PL" (I've also seen the Denver Uncirculated Dollar coin graded as "PL")
I just ordered my replacement holders. The Lady was on point and filled out my form and told me 1 to 2 weeks wait before shipment. Worked like a charm thank to everybody with their information.
Just got an update on how close to the 50K Limit sales are for the Rocketship Sets. Estimates are only 251 remaining... (not including any order cancellations and/or returns).
@fox9487 said:
Surprised I was able to get two orders in. The set that just keeps on giving.
So your the one that took the last for the day. Was trying to check out with a second order. Kept getting there was not enough and kept lowering and then it went poof. Should have just out 1on the second checkout.
@fox9487 said:
Surprised I was able to get two orders in. The set that just keeps on giving.
So your the one that took the last for the day. Was trying to check out with a second order. Kept getting there was not enough and kept lowering and then it went poof. Should have just out 1on the second checkout.
It was not me . There was still one when I tried my third order but I did not get it.
@fox9487 said:
Surprised I was able to get two orders in. The set that just keeps on giving.
So your the one that took the last for the day. Was trying to check out with a second order. Kept getting there was not enough and kept lowering and then it went poof. Should have just out 1on the second checkout.
It was not me . There was still one when I tried my third order but I did not get it.
So who was it? Got to be somebody from this forum.
@fox9487 said:
Surprised I was able to get two orders in. The set that just keeps on giving.
So your the one that took the last for the day. Was trying to check out with a second order. Kept getting there was not enough and kept lowering and then it went poof. Should have just out 1on the second checkout.
It was not me . There was still one when I tried my third order but I did not get it.
So who was it? Got to be somebody from this forum.
@Hemispherical said:
Must be a set percentage. But what is it? 1%, 5%?
Not sure what the set percentage is for a "buffer", but they've currently sold 99.89% of the 50K
What would be the overage minted to replace the sets that were returned damaged or lost, etc. Might be a set %. Not too high or it be a loss when “mintage sold” hits the mintage limit.
Example:
Mint Limit is 100. Actually produce 110 or 10% overage. I do not think the Mint does 10% that would be too much of a gamble. Maybe 1% or a graduated scale. That is a lower % as the mint limit is larger.
Nice, I’m sweating trying to get sets of these for my 2 kids, lol after I did the survey asking for more kids coins. Haven’t bought coins in a couple years after birth of my kids, was a reason for me to be in buying spree.
@smartdriver said:
Nice, I’m sweating trying to get sets of these for my 2 kids, lol after I did the survey asking for more kids coins. Haven’t bought coins in a couple years after birth of my kids, was a reason for me to be in buying spree.
Did you get them for the kiddo’s?
When they first came out got enough for my grandchild, nieces, and nephews. Which was great!
Been trying and sometimes in succeeding in getting more.
I guess we'll see if the numbers confirm this. They should be north of 49,600+ as of Sunday if true
w/e 5/19 49,188
w/e 5/26 49,609 +421
Did you manage to snag any?
Multi-window refresh and no add button this AM.
Yes, I snagged a few on 2 out of the 3 days they were available. But if you are just trying to collect the Half Dollar in "PL", then the Uncirculated Mint Sets appear to have the exact same Half Dollar in "PL" (I've also seen the Denver Uncirculated Dollar coin graded as "PL")
So why are we chasing these Rocketship sets?
My last two orders arrived a couple of days ago. I guess no need to open the boxes and check the sets out. Just order Uncirculated Mint Sets to chase the PL designation.
We all know why. It is the label and profit. 50,000 max for the Rocketship sets and 100's of thousands for the Unc sets. Folks do like their labels. & raw sets are still kicking it on the Ebay.
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Probably trusting the submitter and the submitter is putting their signature on the line. Line 11 on the submission form to be specific.
Having honesty and integrity is a good way to live, IMHO.
I haven’t been following this discussion all too closely, but why would anyone want to remove an MS67 or MS68 or MS69 RS Kennedy and replace it with an MS65 or MS66 Mint Set Kennedy? Unless they were competing in the “lowball” sets?
Wondercoin
I'm guessing there's some kind of fancy math here. Is the value of a straight MS68 + MS66 PL better than an MS68 PL?
Personally, I'd assume they'd do the opposite. Take out an MS65 and replace it with a better coin hoping to get the 68 PL Rocketship designation.
But, there are virtually no better coins in Mint sets! Lol.
Last year, a few dozen MS67 2018-D is best of breed in mint sets!
Wondercoin
This year the P's are pretty terrible in the mint sets with the D's not being much better. Rocketships were your key to the best D's.
A dozen and 1/2
12 per dozen last I knew
Yes, thank you Mas. Supports my point even more. Why would anyone search hundreds of mint sets to possibly find an MS67 coin or two in order to replace that coin into a RS Kennedy set that routinely can come MS68 or even better?
By the way, we finally completed (almost all) the submissions on 2018 mint sets. So, we hope pops will increase somewhat on most of the coins. Strangely, speaking of Kennedy coins, our 2018 experience was similar to Tetromibi with his 2019 sets. Our D mint Kennedy coins were a bit nicer than our P mint coins. Current Pops do not reflect this (47 P vs. 18 D). Luck of the draw.
Wondercoin.
Well... to solve the issue.
I just mailed away all my unc sets to the kids in the family/extended family. They looked mighty fine, too!
Kept the the W unc cents.
Still contemplating what do with the MS69 Kennedy.
As always pop's will grow.. Always have coins in the line, with several
hundred 2018 mint sets left to go !!!
Any idea how many were available on previous 2 days?
Had lunch yesterday with someone I consider a "reliable source" The Rocketship sets came up during our conversation, and I was curious how close they were to the Product Limit of 50K. He pulls out his iPhone and after he scrolled around his iPhone screen for a few seconds, he mentioned about 421 were available this week (that was through Saturday morning)...
so if the web site says "product no longer available" how do you order them? call direct to the mint as the "notify me when available" never notifies me?
Kennedys are my quest...
I guess we'll see if the numbers confirm this. They should be north of 49,600+ as of Sunday if true
For "high demand" products you have to be ready to order right when they become available on the site. Page 7 of this thread has multiple posts talking about exactly what time to check for availability. Just remember, for the really "high demand" products you might only have a few minutes (or few seconds) to order -- depending on how many of the product they make available and how many other buyers you are competing against...
w/e 5/19 49,188
w/e 5/26 49,609 +421
Did you manage to snag any?
Multi-window refresh and no add button this AM.
Yes, I snagged a few on 2 out of the 3 days they were available. But if you are just trying to collect the Half Dollar in "PL", then the Uncirculated Mint Sets appear to have the exact same Half Dollar in "PL" (I've also seen the Denver Uncirculated Dollar coin graded as "PL")
Spot on....
Ok this is strange.
Anyone ordered some RS sets recently but had their order put on "backorder" status?
Seem strange they would let us ordered but have to wait to get them filled?..
I just ordered my replacement holders. The Lady was on point and filled out my form and told me 1 to 2 weeks wait before shipment. Worked like a charm thank to everybody with their information.
Yes, when I ordered some a few days ago it said they are on Backorder while placing the order.
Yes. The same.
Just got an update on how close to the 50K Limit sales are for the Rocketship Sets. Estimates are only 251 remaining... (not including any order cancellations and/or returns).
Some were available this AM.
Surprised I was able to get two orders in. The set that just keeps on giving.
So your the one that took the last for the day. Was trying to check out with a second order. Kept getting there was not enough and kept lowering and then it went poof. Should have just out 1on the second checkout.
It was not me
. There was still one when I tried my third order but I did not get it.
So who was it? Got to be somebody from this forum.
Fess-up.
👍
So close to the 50K Limit - about 55 to go as of today (not including returns/cancels)
I always thought there was a bigger buffer and that they never sold right up to the Product Limit.
Must be a set percentage. But what is it? 1%, 5%?
Not sure what the set percentage is for a "buffer", but they've currently sold 99.89% of the 50K
What would be the overage minted to replace the sets that were returned damaged or lost, etc. Might be a set %. Not too high or it be a loss when “mintage sold” hits the mintage limit.
Example:
Mint Limit is 100. Actually produce 110 or 10% overage. I do not think the Mint does 10% that would be too much of a gamble. Maybe 1% or a graduated scale. That is a lower % as the mint limit is larger.
10,000 at 10% is 1000
50,000 at 2% is 1000
100,000 at 1% is 1000
Aimlessly calculating.
Nice, I’m sweating trying to get sets of these for my 2 kids, lol after I did the survey asking for more kids coins. Haven’t bought coins in a couple years after birth of my kids, was a reason for me to be in buying spree.
Did you get them for the kiddo’s?
When they first came out got enough for my grandchild, nieces, and nephews. Which was great!
Been trying and sometimes in succeeding in getting more.
The $2 rocketship is around the corner: https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/1019805/2019-2-rocketship-bep-b15053-on-sale-june-18
So why are we chasing these Rocketship sets?
My last two orders arrived a couple of days ago. I guess no need to open the boxes and check the sets out. Just order Uncirculated Mint Sets to chase the PL designation.
We all know why. It is the label and profit. 50,000 max for the Rocketship sets and 100's of thousands for the Unc sets. Folks do like their labels. & raw sets are still kicking it on the Ebay.
Still checking to see if any become Available, so I haven’t got any sets yet.
Throwing this up here to see if anything changes on the next update.
19XGC
2019 ROCKETSHIP SET
49945
06/09/2019
The Rocketship 2019 is officially SOLD OUT
Yeppers.
Something to take off my to-do check list!
Bummer