@Gluggo said:
So mine were graded but they came back Min Grade what would that be a 60?
But they did grade First Strike PL!
They are coming back ungraded as they did not meet your requested grade on the submission. They could be anything less than your requested grade. They no longer tell you what they would have graded.
Thank you dmj they put an Alert on my order to pull it and resend it back to the grading room with no restrictions.
@Gluggo said:
So mine were graded but they came back Min Grade what would that be a 60?
But they did grade First Strike PL!
They are coming back ungraded as they did not meet your requested grade on the submission. They could be anything less than your requested grade. They no longer tell you what they would have graded.
Thank you dmj they put an Alert on my order to pull it and resend it back to the grading room with no restrictions.
It’s great how a quick phone call and the responsiveness of our host can fix things @Gluggo!
@Gluggo said:
So mine were graded but they came back Min Grade what would that be a 60?
But they did grade First Strike PL!
They are coming back ungraded as they did not meet your requested grade on the submission. They could be anything less than your requested grade. They no longer tell you what they would have graded.
Thank you dmj they put an Alert on my order to pull it and resend it back to the grading room with no restrictions.
It’s great how a quick phone call and the responsiveness of our host can fix things @Gluggo!
You are so right. Even if it would had shipped they would allowed me to send it back. But EVERY TIME I call things get fixed no questions asked. PCGS customer service is outstanding.
The PCGS FDI 69 are trading $1100-$1300. Were you offered FS or FDI? Two different labels entirely.
The quality is also a factor (as with any grade level). For example, one can price a 69 coin one believes is an average quality specimen entirely differently from a coin one feel is a higher end specimen (including, in this case, the eye appeal of a strong PL vs. a weak PL coin).
Just my 2 cents.
Wondercoin.
Please visit my website at www.wondercoins.com and my ebay auctions under my user name www.wondercoin.com.
was offered one in pr69 pl for approx. $1300.00, glad I passed
Should hv taken it. Not many are graded as PF69pl.
sorry you are a deep pocketed person. A coin sells for a common price of say 60 .00 and ask is 3x+ that price because someone paid $ 900.00 for it. you are not researching your coins and price history. So I have a bridge in NY for sale and I only want $xxx.00 for it, will hand select it at Pr69pl for you … The market will not support your purchase. DO YOUR RESEARCH BEFORE BUYING!
@wondercoin said:
The PCGS FDI 69 are trading $1100-$1300. Were you offered FS or FDI? Two different labels entirely.
The quality is also a factor (as with any grade level). For example, one can price a 69 coin one believes is an average quality specimen entirely differently from a coin one feel is a higher end specimen (including, in this case, the eye appeal of a strong PL vs. a weak PL coin).
Just my 2 cents.
Wondercoin.
You are the one who offered me the coin, and your reply is not according to ebay sales
A 69 pl is a 69 pl by Pcgs, not what you are saying is weak or strong strike. People buy by the grade not your opinion or statement or how many coins you have purchased in the org packaging. Please get real!
@wondercoin said:
The PCGS FDI 69 are trading $1100-$1300. Were you offered FS or FDI? Two different labels entirely.
The quality is also a factor (as with any grade level). For example, one can price a 69 coin one believes is an average quality specimen entirely differently from a coin one feel is a higher end specimen (including, in this case, the eye appeal of a strong PL vs. a weak PL coin).
Just my 2 cents.
Wondercoin.
You are the one who offered me the coin, and your reply is not according to ebay sales
A 69 pl is a 69 pl by Pcgs, not what you are saying is weak or strong strike. People buy by the grade not your opinion or statement or how many coins you have purchased in the org packaging. Please get real!
I did not say @Sweetpie paid too much for their coin, they said I should have bought it at the $1300.00 price
@wondercoin said:
The PCGS FDI 69 are trading $1100-$1300. Were you offered FS or FDI? Two different labels entirely.
The quality is also a factor (as with any grade level). For example, one can price a 69 coin one believes is an average quality specimen entirely differently from a coin one feel is a higher end specimen (including, in this case, the eye appeal of a strong PL vs. a weak PL coin).
Just my 2 cents.
Wondercoin.
You are the one who offered me the coin, and your reply is not according to ebay sales
A 69 pl is a 69 pl by Pcgs, not what you are saying is weak or strong strike. People buy by the grade not your opinion or statement or how many coins you have purchased in the org packaging. Please get real!
He didn't say weak or strong strike, he said weak or strong PL. Not all PL fields are created equal.
But that said, you might want to get a fresh bowl of wheaties that someone didn't pee in cuz you are swinging with both hands. We're all friends here.
Wayneas... I am confused. I am selling them over on the BST board and offering handpicked examples by me to any board member who might buy one. I have no idea what eBay would have to do with that. I can easily select a premium coin for any grade level, just as the other “hunters” can and do when asked.
Also, since I assumed you meant MS coins, my comment stands. You stated a price you were offered for a FDI coin in comparing it to a FS recent sale price.
Wondercoin
Please visit my website at www.wondercoins.com and my ebay auctions under my user name www.wondercoin.com.
@WAYNEAS said:
you insult my integrity and I am supposed to laugh. sorry I don't eat Wheaties. Let's ask @Sweetpie what he / she meant
Just look @sweetpie 's actual comment. He put a laughing face emoticon under it and specifically rewrote your mistake as "pr69 pl". It was obviously a joke.
If you don't eat wheaties, then maybe there's just a burr in your pants. {kidding} I'm not sure why you are lashing out at everyone. We're all friendly strangers
@WAYNEAS said:
you insult my integrity and I am supposed to laugh. sorry I don't eat Wheaties. Let's ask @Sweetpie what he / she meant
I think you're still missing the point. You incorrectly typed the grade on the coin you were offered as pf69pl instead of ms69pl. @Sweetpie joked that you should have taken it b/c they didn't make many "PF69pl". They even added a to indicate the joke.
Nobody's calling you out on what you did/didn't/should/shouldn't buy. It was just some silliness.
If anybody wants to call someone out for paying stupid money for something, I just paid $1500 for a silver puck with an old guy's signature. Though that one is a proof
“He didn't say weak or strong strike, he said weak or strong PL. Not all PL fields are created equal.”
I actually tried to persuade PCGS to start to use the DPL designation for the deep prooflikes (similar to Morgan Dollar grading of PL and DMPL). Upon reflection, it was too much to ask. Baby steps... let’s get PL established first. But, the DPL Coins are sure nice to look at!
Wondercoin.
Please visit my website at www.wondercoins.com and my ebay auctions under my user name www.wondercoin.com.
@wondercoin said:
Wayneas... I am confused. I am selling them over on the BST board and offering handpicked examples by me to any board member who might buy one. I have no idea what eBay would have to do with that. I can easily select a premium coin for any grade level, just as the other “hunters” can and do when asked.
Also, since I assumed you meant MS coins, my comment stands. You stated a price you were offered for a FDI coin in comparing it to a FS recent sale price.
Wondercoin
my coin offered was a FS MS69 pl for 12,995.00 hand selected> @Sweetpie said:
@wondercoin said:
Wayneas... I am confused. I am selling them over on the BST board and offering handpicked examples by me to any board member who might buy one. I have no idea what eBay would have to do with that. I can easily select a premium coin for any grade level, just as the other “hunters” can and do when asked.
Also, since I assumed you meant MS coins, my comment stands. You stated a price you were offered for a FDI coin in comparing it to a FS recent sale price.
Wondercoin
Quoted for truth. There can be a HUGE difference between coins within a single grade. Even at higher grade coins. The more you look at (and/or have graded), the more apparent this is.
Also, I personally feel like the FDI and FS are both just a way to make the grading companies more money. More power to whoever can use them to their advantage and profit. But that's a can of worms for another thread...
@wondercoin said:
Wayneas... I am confused. I am selling them over on the BST board and offering handpicked examples by me to any board member who might buy one. I have no idea what eBay would have to do with that. I can easily select a premium coin for any grade level, just as the other “hunters” can and do when asked.
Also, since I assumed you meant MS coins, my comment stands. You stated a price you were offered for a FDI coin in comparing it to a FS recent sale price.
Wondercoin
Quoted for truth. There can be a HUGE difference between coins within a single grade. Even at higher grade coins. The more you look at (and/or have graded), the more apparent this is.
Also, I personally feel like the FDI and FS are both just a way to make the grading companies more money. More power to whoever can use them to their advantage and profit. But that's a can of worms for another thread...
If anybody wants to call someone out for paying stupid money for something, I just paid $1500 for a silver puck with an old guy's signature. Though that one is a proof
It might be “stupid” money and it IS an old astronaut’s signature, BUT, you do have an actual first day of strike coin/puck.
@wondercoin said:
$12,995 is clearly too much for the coin!
Wondercoin
so is 1295.00 for a fs coin
I don't know what the offer was or whether there was a misunderstanding, but Monster Coin Mart is selling FS for $850 and FDOI for $1299 on eBay
My original listing was : just sold on ebay
2019 D KENNEDY HALF 50c PCGS MS 69 PL ProofLike ROCKETSHIP FIRST STRIKE ~ LIVE
32 BIDS:
US $719.00
No seller was mentioned
Wayneas... your honest mistake is that you stated that I offered you a FS 69 coin at $1295. I never did. You can easily refer back to our written communications to confirm that. If you disagree, please send me a private PM now and I’ll send you a copy of our communications. I am not upset in any way. I just wanted to correct an honest misunderstanding you are having. .
Wondercoin.
Please visit my website at www.wondercoins.com and my ebay auctions under my user name www.wondercoin.com.
@wondercoin said:
$12,995 is clearly too much for the coin!
Wondercoin
so is 1295.00 for a fs coin
I don't know what the offer was or whether there was a misunderstanding, but Monster Coin Mart is selling FS for $850 and FDOI for $1299 on eBay
My original listing was : just sold on ebay
2019 D KENNEDY HALF 50c PCGS MS 69 PL ProofLike ROCKETSHIP FIRST STRIKE ~ LIVE
32 BIDS:
US $719.00
No seller was mentioned
That was an auction. I'm talking about the current BIN listing of Monster Coin Mart who is Wondercoin's son. I only mention it for price consistency.
To all on this thread, I apologize for my recent comments.
I am a collector, maybe a true collector in my eyes only. I do not sell or have ever sold a coin. I have only given away coins to young collectors, other than that I have every coin still in my collection since I started at the age of 8. I cannot wrap my mind around the fact the people are in this business to make a profit. If they can get 3x or 6x times the value of a coin, it is a good thing and a great profit for them. My collection will never be sold but only passed on to another, younger generation, hopefully something that someone will remember me by. I do not understand greed and I am not saying greed is a part of all dealers but it is a part of some...The wording of coins up for sale or auction are truly disguised to tell a protentional buyer of what a great deal you will get if you acquire this coin. This is why I say "research, research" every coin you wish to become a part of your collection. I have seen many here ask for a decent price on a coin and yet when they offer one up, it is not at a decent price. So again , I ramble...
I wonder about the open bid auctions now on coins like the 69PL FS Kennedy...
In the short run, I believe they tend to simply “run the coin prices into the ground”. One esteemed participant here that has a few now running... I welcome comments and thoughts from him. Another ebayer just launched an open bid coin. No doubt Justin will follow suit shortly.
Is that the best way to establish a market on a new coin if everyone just tosses all their coins out there at a Penny opening bid and whatever happens, happens? Maybe it is. Or, is a (better?) proper market slowly developed if sellers state an asking price for their coins such as these and find the price point where buyers and sellers agree on a deal? This has been a subject of discussion for years and years with these moderns. Thoughts?
Of course, the open bids are a great way for buyers to get a possible sweetheart deal. And, for sellers to raise funds. If I love the particular coin, I can even buy up all the competitions’ coins on eBay and “corner the market”!
Wonderoin.
Please visit my website at www.wondercoins.com and my ebay auctions under my user name www.wondercoin.com.
I wonder about the open bid auctions now on coins like the 69PL FS Kennedy...
In the short run, I believe they tend to simply “run the coin prices into the ground”. One esteemed participant here that has a few now running... I welcome comments and thoughts from him. Another ebayer just launched an open bid coin. No doubt Justin will follow suit shortly.
Is that the best way to establish a market on a new coin if everyone just tosses all their coins out there at a Penny opening bid and whatever happens, happens? Maybe it is. Or, is a (better?) proper market slowly developed if sellers state an asking price for their coins such as these and find the price point where buyers and sellers agree on a deal? This has been a subject of discussion for years and years with these moderns. Thoughts?
Of course, the open bids are a great way for buyers to get a possible sweetheart deal. And, for sellers to raise funds. If I love the particular coin, I can even buy up all the competitions’ coins on eBay and “corner the market”!
Wonderoin.
No ill intent, Please explain " If I love the particular coin, I can even buy up all the competitions’ coins on eBay and “corner the market”!
as I thought Hansen was cornering the market especially in registry sets. LOL
Comments
2019 ROCKETSHIP SET 49089 3/31/2019
I'm ready for the sellout. (Really? 1200 sets were sold last week?)
Thank you dmj they put an Alert on my order to pull it and resend it back to the grading room with no restrictions.
It’s great how a quick phone call and the responsiveness of our host can fix things @Gluggo!
I think some of these numbers are from the Mint stores and where the Mint sets-up at coin shows. They were recently at Pittsburgh as ThePennyLady reported, https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/1017388/charmys-2019-pittsburgh-ana-national-money-show-report-w-lots-of-pics
Agree... cannot wait for this to sellout.
You are so right. Even if it would had shipped they would allowed me to send it back. But EVERY TIME I call things get fixed no questions asked. PCGS customer service is outstanding.
I'm more interested in the arrival of the Mint sets...
(Not sure if this was posted before...)
LOL, anyone ever see Scott Manley's channel on YouTube?
Anyway, if you're wondering what's on his channel, this video is somewhat about the Apollo missions and the Saturn boosters. Interesting stuff.
just sold on ebay
2019 D KENNEDY HALF 50c PCGS MS 69 PL ProofLike ROCKETSHIP FIRST STRIKE ~ LIVE
32 BIDS:
US $719.00
Kennedys are my quest...
And the 67’s are going for a little over $100.
was offered one in pr69 pl for approx. $1300.00, glad I passed
Kennedys are my quest...
Should hv taken it. Not many are graded as PF69pl.
The PCGS FDI 69 are trading $1100-$1300. Were you offered FS or FDI? Two different labels entirely.
The quality is also a factor (as with any grade level). For example, one can price a 69 coin one believes is an average quality specimen entirely differently from a coin one feel is a higher end specimen (including, in this case, the eye appeal of a strong PL vs. a weak PL coin).
Just my 2 cents.
Wondercoin.
sorry you are a deep pocketed person. A coin sells for a common price of say 60 .00 and ask is 3x+ that price because someone paid $ 900.00 for it. you are not researching your coins and price history. So I have a bridge in NY for sale and I only want $xxx.00 for it, will hand select it at Pr69pl for you … The market will not support your purchase. DO YOUR RESEARCH BEFORE BUYING!
Kennedys are my quest...
I think that was a joke @WAYNEAS from @Sweetpie.
“pr69 pl”
vs
MS69PL
Again... Wayneas... you were not even clear what you were offered. So, tough to tell Sweetpie he is paying too much! Lol.
Edited to add... a PR one might be worth that and more!
Wondercoin.
You are the one who offered me the coin, and your reply is not according to ebay sales
A 69 pl is a 69 pl by Pcgs, not what you are saying is weak or strong strike. People buy by the grade not your opinion or statement or how many coins you have purchased in the org packaging. Please get real!
Kennedys are my quest...
Agree. Sweetpie was joking and Wayneas took him to the woodshed instead of laughing
I did not say @Sweetpie paid too much for their coin, they said I should have bought it at the $1300.00 price
Kennedys are my quest...
He didn't say weak or strong strike, he said weak or strong PL. Not all PL fields are created equal.
But that said, you might want to get a fresh bowl of wheaties that someone didn't pee in cuz you are swinging with both hands. We're all friends here.
you insult my integrity and I am supposed to laugh. sorry I don't eat Wheaties. Let's ask @Sweetpie what he / she meant
Kennedys are my quest...
Wayneas... I am confused. I am selling them over on the BST board and offering handpicked examples by me to any board member who might buy one. I have no idea what eBay would have to do with that. I can easily select a premium coin for any grade level, just as the other “hunters” can and do when asked.
Also, since I assumed you meant MS coins, my comment stands. You stated a price you were offered for a FDI coin in comparing it to a FS recent sale price.
Wondercoin
Just look @sweetpie 's actual comment. He put a laughing face emoticon under it and specifically rewrote your mistake as "pr69 pl". It was obviously a joke.
If you don't eat wheaties, then maybe there's just a burr in your pants. {kidding} I'm not sure why you are lashing out at everyone. We're all friendly strangers
I think you're still missing the point. You incorrectly typed the grade on the coin you were offered as pf69pl instead of ms69pl. @Sweetpie joked that you should have taken it b/c they didn't make many "PF69pl". They even added a
to indicate the joke.
Nobody's calling you out on what you did/didn't/should/shouldn't buy. It was just some silliness.
If anybody wants to call someone out for paying stupid money for something, I just paid $1500 for a silver puck with an old guy's signature. Though that one is a proof
I don't think anyone insulted your integrity. Did I miss something
I see 4 sales at $1300 and over for PCGS FDOI Kennedy's on eBay.
Jmlanzaf...
“He didn't say weak or strong strike, he said weak or strong PL. Not all PL fields are created equal.”
I actually tried to persuade PCGS to start to use the DPL designation for the deep prooflikes (similar to Morgan Dollar grading of PL and DMPL). Upon reflection, it was too much to ask. Baby steps... let’s get PL established first. But, the DPL Coins are sure nice to look at!
Wondercoin.
my coin offered was a FS MS69 pl for 12,995.00 hand selected> @Sweetpie said:
apologize on my misreading of your comment
Kennedys are my quest...
$12,995 is clearly too much for the coin!
Wondercoin
so is 1295.00 for a fs coin
Kennedys are my quest...
Quoted for truth. There can be a HUGE difference between coins within a single grade. Even at higher grade coins. The more you look at (and/or have graded), the more apparent this is.
Also, I personally feel like the FDI and FS are both just a way to make the grading companies more money. More power to whoever can use them to their advantage and profit. But that's a can of worms for another thread...
and with all that said, who has the pl70 coin
Kennedys are my quest...
as they say " buy the grade and not the label"
Kennedys are my quest...
Not if you're selling it!
so that bridge in Brooklyn is still available
Kennedys are my quest...
I don't know what the offer was or whether there was a misunderstanding, but Monster Coin Mart is selling FS for $850 and FDOI for $1299 on eBay
Well I’m glad that’s all settled.
It might be “stupid” money and it IS an old astronaut’s signature, BUT, you do have an actual first day of strike coin/puck.
My original listing was : just sold on ebay
2019 D KENNEDY HALF 50c PCGS MS 69 PL ProofLike ROCKETSHIP FIRST STRIKE ~ LIVE
32 BIDS:
US $719.00
No seller was mentioned
Kennedys are my quest...
help me out. where did I say @sweepie paid to much for his coin?
Kennedys are my quest...
“so is 1295.00 for a fs coin”
Wayneas... your honest mistake is that you stated that I offered you a FS 69 coin at $1295. I never did. You can easily refer back to our written communications to confirm that. If you disagree, please send me a private PM now and I’ll send you a copy of our communications. I am not upset in any way. I just wanted to correct an honest misunderstanding you are having.
.
Wondercoin.
That was an auction. I'm talking about the current BIN listing of Monster Coin Mart who is Wondercoin's son. I only mention it for price consistency.
Again, I have no idea what was said privately.
Lol
Took care of the kids and an hour later 20 new comments!
Thought it was gonna be a slow weekday nite.
Yes, my comment was intended to be on a lighter side of things, thus my smiley face.
Yes, as Jmlanzaf said, we are all friendly strangers here.
Now on topic- I thought I was going pick up 10 more sets today, but after asking the sales lady to confirm, she couldnt find any physically...
again my apologize to you
Kennedys are my quest...
I thought we had more going than that “sweetie”. Oops... sweetpie.
Wondercoin.
Me too... and I had nothing to do with it, lol
Me either!
Lol Wondercoins, you know at our advance age, sometimes we forgot the "p" also.
@WAYNEAS
No sweat!
We are all men here (most of us )...
We could invite “@“HeatherBoyd so she can read this and then post this.
To all on this thread, I apologize for my recent comments.
I am a collector, maybe a true collector in my eyes only. I do not sell or have ever sold a coin. I have only given away coins to young collectors, other than that I have every coin still in my collection since I started at the age of 8. I cannot wrap my mind around the fact the people are in this business to make a profit. If they can get 3x or 6x times the value of a coin, it is a good thing and a great profit for them. My collection will never be sold but only passed on to another, younger generation, hopefully something that someone will remember me by. I do not understand greed and I am not saying greed is a part of all dealers but it is a part of some...The wording of coins up for sale or auction are truly disguised to tell a protentional buyer of what a great deal you will get if you acquire this coin. This is why I say "research, research" every coin you wish to become a part of your collection. I have seen many here ask for a decent price on a coin and yet when they offer one up, it is not at a decent price. So again , I ramble...
Kennedys are my quest...
All fun aside...
I wonder about the open bid auctions now on coins like the 69PL FS Kennedy...
In the short run, I believe they tend to simply “run the coin prices into the ground”. One esteemed participant here that has a few now running... I welcome comments and thoughts from him. Another ebayer just launched an open bid coin. No doubt Justin will follow suit shortly.
Is that the best way to establish a market on a new coin if everyone just tosses all their coins out there at a Penny opening bid and whatever happens, happens? Maybe it is. Or, is a (better?) proper market slowly developed if sellers state an asking price for their coins such as these and find the price point where buyers and sellers agree on a deal? This has been a subject of discussion for years and years with these moderns. Thoughts?
Of course, the open bids are a great way for buyers to get a possible sweetheart deal. And, for sellers to raise funds. If I love the particular coin, I can even buy up all the competitions’ coins on eBay and “corner the market”!
Wonderoin.
No ill intent, Please explain " If I love the particular coin, I can even buy up all the competitions’ coins on eBay and “corner the market”!
as I thought Hansen was cornering the market especially in registry sets. LOL
Kennedys are my quest...