A win is a win but that win was against the hottest team in football,congrats buddy. There's still a lot of football left but Dallas is picking a great time to get hot.
A win is a win but that win was against the hottest team in football,congrats buddy. There's still a lot of football left but Dallas is picking a great time to get hot.
We did kinda shut'em down from their normal 37 per game.......especially the first half!
@stevek said:
Cowboys are a strong 5-1 at home, but a weak 2-4 on the road.
They're going to need to step up their road performance if they wish to advance in the playoffs.
The Cowboys have already stepped up their road performance winning their last two road games including one in Philly. They're also 4-1 since trading for Amari Cooper.
This team has the #2 rushing attack and the #2 scoring defense which are both needed come playoff time if you want to beat a great offense by keeping them on the sidelines for most of the game. Look at last night,Dallas had the ball for 36 minutes,the Saints just 23.
@stevek said:
Cowboys are a strong 5-1 at home, but a weak 2-4 on the road.
They're going to need to step up their road performance if they wish to advance in the playoffs.
The Cowboys have already stepped up their road performance winning their last two road games including one in Philly. They're also 4-1 since trading for Amari Cooper.
This team has the #2 rushing attack and the #2 scoring defense which are both needed come playoff time if you want to beat a great offense by keeping them on the sidelines for most of the game. Look at last night,Dallas had the ball for 36 minutes,the Saints just 23.
Valid points.
However the Cowboys will never beat the Saints or Rams on the road in the playoffs if they happen to meet them, and that is an easy call.
@stevek said:
Cowboys are a strong 5-1 at home, but a weak 2-4 on the road.
They're going to need to step up their road performance if they wish to advance in the playoffs.
The Cowboys have already stepped up their road performance winning their last two road games including one in Philly. They're also 4-1 since trading for Amari Cooper.
This team has the #2 rushing attack and the #2 scoring defense which are both needed come playoff time if you want to beat a great offense by keeping them on the sidelines for most of the game. Look at last night,Dallas had the ball for 36 minutes,the Saints just 23.
Valid points.
However the Cowboys will never beat the Saints or Rams on the road in the playoffs if they happen to meet them, and that is an easy call.
True but I don't think any other NFC playoff team is going to beat either of those teams,home or away, come playoff time so that really isn't just a Cowboys thing.
@stevek said:
Cowboys are a strong 5-1 at home, but a weak 2-4 on the road.
They're going to need to step up their road performance if they wish to advance in the playoffs.
The Cowboys have already stepped up their road performance winning their last two road games including one in Philly. They're also 4-1 since trading for Amari Cooper.
This team has the #2 rushing attack and the #2 scoring defense which are both needed come playoff time if you want to beat a great offense by keeping them on the sidelines for most of the game. Look at last night,Dallas had the ball for 36 minutes,the Saints just 23.
Valid points.
However the Cowboys will never beat the Saints or Rams on the road in the playoffs if they happen to meet them, and that is an easy call.
True but I don't think any other NFC playoff team is going to beat either of those teams,home or away, come playoff time so that really isn't just a Cowboys thing.
Novice NFL fans such as Dimeman who have only been following the NFL for a few weeks ( ) , don't understand that the pace of the game speeds up exponentially in the playoffs.
Yes, there can always be upsets, but the Saints or Rams will be heavy favorites at home to beat the Cowboys despite the Cowboys momentum right now, and I doubt if either one of these two teams will have trouble doing it.
One factor coming into play is whether or not Jared Goff can handle the faster pace plus the added pressure of being in the playoffs. He seems like a level headed kid, and in my opinion he will be able to perform well, but we shall see. Maybe he learned from last season's playoff defeat.
The best road to getting to the Super Bowl for the Cowboys, probably will be to meet the Rams before the Saints, and hope that another team knocks off the Saints, and then the Cowboys meet the Rams in the NFC championship game, and Goff has a clunker of a game. A lot of hurdles for the Cowboys to get into the Super Bowl which certainly doesn't favor them at this point.
But if the Cowboys get lucky with their playoff opponent matchups, who knows? I do think the Cowboys have the possibility of beating any team in the playoffs except for the Saints, and the Rams if Goff has a clunker game as mentioned which i don't think he will.
Drew Brees has already proven that he can handle playoff pressure. Brees for whatever reason wasn't focused in last night's game. However if he meets the Cowboys again in the playoffs, he will definitely be focused then, to the detriment of the Dallas Cowboys.
The true test of the Cowboys now will be the rest of the season. They just beat a highly favored team....OK. Now all remaining games are with losing teams. The mark of a good team is one that can take one game at a time and beat the teams they are supposed to beat. Should be interesting. The also unknown is Cooper. Will he continue to be such a good factor in the Cowboys offense. Plus the Cowboys need to stop the bonehead plays they pulled against the Saints......like running into the kicker thus extending the Saints that lead to a TD. The Saints should have only scored 3 points!!!!
Winning teams that make it deep into the playoffs just don't make stupid mental mistakes!!
Jerry Jones should sign Jason Garrett to an extension while the iron's hot, LOL..
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best defensive performance i've seen all season, and remember, i'm a Bears fan. to hold the Saints to 4 touches below their average is one of the most impressive things i've witnessed since i saw Dime making one of his famous strawberry dakries in his undies.
on the other side of the ball, Amari has been a godsend. no one is ever going to confuse him for a JJ, AB, OBJ, or D-Hop, but he has the ability to manifest signs of beastliness and that galvanizes the entire offense by allowing Dak & Zeke to do their thing without being suffocated by defenses that have zero respect for their passing game. prior to him, teams stacked the box and had no qualms about 1-1 coverage on the outside. now if they regularly do that, the Cowboys actually have a wideout who can make them pay.........a la Thanksgiving day.
and one other thing the AC acquisition has done -- potentially give Eric the green light to change his name to ericdaprophet
A very good night for the Cowboys, but they are going to have to win on the read if they going anywhere in the play-offs.
The Eagle's season has evaporated. If they beat the Redskins next Monday (?), they could be the Cowboys last challengers, but they have to play in Dallas and Los Angles and those two stadums are tarpits. The Eagles will like some old sabor toothed tiger with their front teeth pulled when they play on those stadums. The chances of winning are slim and none.
I won't care much about the playoffs unless the Cowboys go up against the Patriots, which is not going to happen.
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@galaxy27 said:
best defensive performance i've seen all season, and remember, i'm a Bears fan. to hold the Saints to 4 touches below their average is one of the most impressive things i've witnessed since i saw Dime making one of his famous strawberry dakries in his undies.
on the other side of the ball, Amari has been a godsend. no one is ever going to confuse him for a JJ, AB, OBJ, or D-Hop, but he has the ability to manifest signs of beastliness and that galvanizes the entire offense by allowing Dak & Zeke to do their thing without being suffocated by defenses that have zero respect for their passing game. prior to him, teams stacked the box and had no qualms about 1-1 coverage on the outside. now if they regularly do that, the Cowboys actually have a wideout who can make them pay.........a la Thanksgiving day.
and one other thing the AC acquisition has done -- potentially give Eric the green light to change his name to ericdaprophet
The Saints actually shouldn't have gotten the one TD......if it wasn't for the STUPID I mean STUPID running into the kicker penalty that extended the drive and GAVE them the only TD.
@stevek said:
Cowboys are a strong 5-1 at home, but a weak 2-4 on the road.
They're going to need to step up their road performance if they wish to advance in the playoffs.
The Cowboys have already stepped up their road performance winning their last two road games including one in Philly. They're also 4-1 since trading for Amari Cooper.
This team has the #2 rushing attack and the #2 scoring defense which are both needed come playoff time if you want to beat a great offense by keeping them on the sidelines for most of the game. Look at last night,Dallas had the ball for 36 minutes,the Saints just 23.
Valid points.
However the Cowboys will never beat the Saints or Rams on the road in the playoffs if they happen to meet them, and that is an easy call.
True but I don't think any other NFC playoff team is going to beat either of those teams,home or away, come playoff time so that really isn't just a Cowboys thing.
Novice NFL fans such as Dimeman who have only been following the NFL for a few weeks ( ) , don't understand that the pace of the game speeds up exponentially in the playoffs.
Yes, there can always be upsets, but the Saints or Rams will be heavy favorites at home to beat the Cowboys despite the Cowboys momentum right now, and I doubt if either one of these two teams will have trouble doing it.
One factor coming into play is whether or not Jared Goff can handle the faster pace plus the added pressure of being in the playoffs. He seems like a level headed kid, and in my opinion he will be able to perform well, but we shall see. Maybe he learned from last season's playoff defeat.
The best road to getting to the Super Bowl for the Cowboys, probably will be to meet the Rams before the Saints, and hope that another team knocks off the Saints, and then the Cowboys meet the Rams in the NFC championship game, and Goff has a clunker of a game. A lot of hurdles for the Cowboys to get into the Super Bowl which certainly doesn't favor them at this point.
But if the Cowboys get lucky with their playoff opponent matchups, who knows? I do think the Cowboys have the possibility of beating any team in the playoffs except for the Saints, and the Rams if Goff has a clunker game as mentioned which i don't think he will.
Drew Brees has already proven that he can handle playoff pressure. Brees for whatever reason wasn't focused in last night's game. However if he meets the Cowboys again in the playoffs, he will definitely be focused then, to the detriment of the Dallas Cowboys.
I don't think its happening with the Rams or Saints in these playoffs but we've seen plenty of high powered offenses get beat at home by a "lesser" team with a good defense & a running game though. The Jags beat the Steelers in Pittsburgh then almost beat the Pats in the AFCCG in NE last season,the Giants had two playoff runs where they won three road games each time then beat the Pats twice in the SB. The 2001 Pats beating the Steelers in Pittsburgh then beating the Rams in the SB a week later. Peyton Manning had arguably a high powered offense almost every year of his career minus his final year where the D carried them to a SB win and his Colts/Broncos lost 6 playoff home games to lesser opponents.
You can lecture us with your "what the Cowboys can or can't do come playoff time" speech but they just knocked off the arguably the best team in football in a game no one gave them a chance to win.
We'll see what that win does for their confidence next week when your Eagles go to Dallas. A Cowboys win all but wraps up the division with a 4-0 record vs Philly & Washington. A home loss to Philly takes away all the luster from last night's win.
The Cowboys defense was really fun to watch that game completely shutting down Drew Brees and
that great offense. I did post somewhere a few weeks ago that I thought Dallas was pretty close to
putting it together and being a good team.
I think it was when Dimeman switched to the Chiefs and then back again.
@erikthredd said:
Big game for the Cowboys today,can't follow up that Masterpiece last week versus the Saints with a dud against the Eagles at home.
I know...….this is a MUST win!!
No, it isn’t. The schedule is with you. The Eagles have to beat Los Angeles and Houston plus the hapless Redskins. You have the Colts, Tampa and the NY Gaints. The toughest of that three might be Tampa, and you’re got that game at home. I think Redsins are toast with no quarterback.
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@erikthredd said:
Big game for the Cowboys today,can't follow up that Masterpiece last week versus the Saints with a dud against the Eagles at home.
I know...….this is a MUST win!!
No, it isn’t. The schedule is with you. The Eagles have to beat Los Angeles and Houston plus the hapless Redskins. You have the Colts, Tampa and the NY Gaints. The toughest of that three might be Tampa, and you’re got that game at home. I think Redsins are toast with no quarterback.
I know what you are saying, but I have never been one to count on other teams helping me. Just saying.
The NY Giants are up 24-zip on the Redskins. I would say that Washington will not be a factor for the rest of the season.
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Don’t look now, but Tampa is beating Saints 14-3. Did the Saints peak too soon?
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I'll bet when the Raiders traded Cooper to a 3-5 team, they were licking their chops at a possible top 10 pick next year. Lick away because you'll be getting something in the mid 20's or later
Dimeman- just having a little fun. I know its frustrating when your team is playing like crap in what
should have been a competitive game.
Hang in there, Dallas still has a great shot at making the playoffs.
@Darin said:
Dimeman- just having a little fun. I know its frustrating when your team is playing like crap in what
should have been a competitive game.
Hang in there, Dallas still has a great shot at making the playoffs.
I thought they were finally peaking at the right time and then they lay this egg!
@erikthredd said:
Someone should let the Cowboys know that they have a game today.
Totally agree. The dream just turned into a nightmare!!!!!
Even with this loss they're still in the driver's seat for the division but they gotta win their last two to keep any hope of a 10-6 season alive.
Not getting my hopes up at this point!
They got this. Washington would need to win their last two games AND have Dallas lose both of their two. If they both finish 9-7,Dallas would get the tiebreaker finishing with a better division record.
Philly would need to beat the Rams tonight then win their last two with Dallas losing their last two. Dallas owns the head to head there.
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Saints doing everything they can to lose this game, but the Cowboys won't let them. LOL
If I'm in charge......94 is on the bench the rest of the night!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Nice run Dak!!
Hats off to the Dallas Cowboys...NFC East champs.
Bad pass Dak!!!
You play like idiots…..ya lose!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Good job Cowboys
WTG BOYS!!!!!!
A win is a win...….but too many mental mistakes!
A win is a win but that win was against the hottest team in football,congrats buddy. There's still a lot of football left but Dallas is picking a great time to get hot.
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We did kinda shut'em down from their normal 37 per game.......especially the first half!
Cowboys are a strong 5-1 at home, but a weak 2-4 on the road.
They're going to need to step up their road performance if they wish to advance in the playoffs.
they just need to request only home games in the playoffs , that is the Patriots plan also.
I hate it when Cowboys fans are even semi-happy. 😒
And I LOVE it when you hate it!!
The Cowboys have already stepped up their road performance winning their last two road games including one in Philly. They're also 4-1 since trading for Amari Cooper.
This team has the #2 rushing attack and the #2 scoring defense which are both needed come playoff time if you want to beat a great offense by keeping them on the sidelines for most of the game. Look at last night,Dallas had the ball for 36 minutes,the Saints just 23.
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Valid points.
However the Cowboys will never beat the Saints or Rams on the road in the playoffs if they happen to meet them, and that is an easy call.
True but I don't think any other NFC playoff team is going to beat either of those teams,home or away, come playoff time so that really isn't just a Cowboys thing.
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Novice NFL fans such as Dimeman who have only been following the NFL for a few weeks (
) , don't understand that the pace of the game speeds up exponentially in the playoffs.
Yes, there can always be upsets, but the Saints or Rams will be heavy favorites at home to beat the Cowboys despite the Cowboys momentum right now, and I doubt if either one of these two teams will have trouble doing it.
One factor coming into play is whether or not Jared Goff can handle the faster pace plus the added pressure of being in the playoffs. He seems like a level headed kid, and in my opinion he will be able to perform well, but we shall see. Maybe he learned from last season's playoff defeat.
The best road to getting to the Super Bowl for the Cowboys, probably will be to meet the Rams before the Saints, and hope that another team knocks off the Saints, and then the Cowboys meet the Rams in the NFC championship game, and Goff has a clunker of a game. A lot of hurdles for the Cowboys to get into the Super Bowl which certainly doesn't favor them at this point.
But if the Cowboys get lucky with their playoff opponent matchups, who knows? I do think the Cowboys have the possibility of beating any team in the playoffs except for the Saints, and the Rams if Goff has a clunker game as mentioned which i don't think he will.
Drew Brees has already proven that he can handle playoff pressure. Brees for whatever reason wasn't focused in last night's game. However if he meets the Cowboys again in the playoffs, he will definitely be focused then, to the detriment of the Dallas Cowboys.
how does Garrett outcoach Payton at the end like that?
did the spirit of Andy Reid take over Payton at the precise moment that clock management skills were needed?
The true test of the Cowboys now will be the rest of the season. They just beat a highly favored team....OK. Now all remaining games are with losing teams. The mark of a good team is one that can take one game at a time and beat the teams they are supposed to beat. Should be interesting. The also unknown is Cooper. Will he continue to be such a good factor in the Cowboys offense. Plus the Cowboys need to stop the bonehead plays they pulled against the Saints......like running into the kicker thus extending the Saints that lead to a TD. The Saints should have only scored 3 points!!!!
Winning teams that make it deep into the playoffs just don't make stupid mental mistakes!!
Exciting game. HORRIBLE officiating!!!!!!! They missed some obvious calls, I was not rooting for either team. That helmet to helmet shot was scary!
Jerry Jones should sign Jason Garrett to an extension while the iron's hot, LOL..
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best defensive performance i've seen all season, and remember, i'm a Bears fan. to hold the Saints to 4 touches below their average is one of the most impressive things i've witnessed since i saw Dime making one of his famous strawberry dakries in his undies.
on the other side of the ball, Amari has been a godsend. no one is ever going to confuse him for a JJ, AB, OBJ, or D-Hop, but he has the ability to manifest signs of beastliness and that galvanizes the entire offense by allowing Dak & Zeke to do their thing without being suffocated by defenses that have zero respect for their passing game. prior to him, teams stacked the box and had no qualms about 1-1 coverage on the outside. now if they regularly do that, the Cowboys actually have a wideout who can make them pay.........a la Thanksgiving day.
and one other thing the AC acquisition has done -- potentially give Eric the green light to change his name to ericdaprophet
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A very good night for the Cowboys, but they are going to have to win on the read if they going anywhere in the play-offs.
The Eagle's season has evaporated. If they beat the Redskins next Monday (?), they could be the Cowboys last challengers, but they have to play in Dallas and Los Angles and those two stadums are tarpits. The Eagles will like some old sabor toothed tiger with their front teeth pulled when they play on those stadums. The chances of winning are slim and none.
I won't care much about the playoffs unless the Cowboys go up against the Patriots, which is not going to happen.
The Saints actually shouldn't have gotten the one TD......if it wasn't for the STUPID I mean STUPID running into the kicker penalty that extended the drive and GAVE them the only TD.
I don't think its happening with the Rams or Saints in these playoffs but we've seen plenty of high powered offenses get beat at home by a "lesser" team with a good defense & a running game though. The Jags beat the Steelers in Pittsburgh then almost beat the Pats in the AFCCG in NE last season,the Giants had two playoff runs where they won three road games each time then beat the Pats twice in the SB. The 2001 Pats beating the Steelers in Pittsburgh then beating the Rams in the SB a week later. Peyton Manning had arguably a high powered offense almost every year of his career minus his final year where the D carried them to a SB win and his Colts/Broncos lost 6 playoff home games to lesser opponents.
You can lecture us with your "what the Cowboys can or can't do come playoff time" speech but they just knocked off the arguably the best team in football in a game no one gave them a chance to win.
We'll see what that win does for their confidence next week when your Eagles go to Dallas. A Cowboys win all but wraps up the division with a 4-0 record vs Philly & Washington. A home loss to Philly takes away all the luster from last night's win.
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The Cowboys defense was really fun to watch that game completely shutting down Drew Brees and
that great offense. I did post somewhere a few weeks ago that I thought Dallas was pretty close to
putting it together and being a good team.
I think it was when Dimeman switched to the Chiefs and then back again.
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Big game for the Cowboys today,can't follow up that Masterpiece last week versus the Saints with a dud against the Eagles at home.
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I know...….this is a MUST win!!
No, it isn’t. The schedule is with you. The Eagles have to beat Los Angeles and Houston plus the hapless Redskins. You have the Colts, Tampa and the NY Gaints. The toughest of that three might be Tampa, and you’re got that game at home. I think Redsins are toast with no quarterback.
I know what you are saying, but I have never been one to count on other teams helping me. Just saying.
The NY Giants are up 24-zip on the Redskins. I would say that Washington will not be a factor for the rest of the season.
Don’t look now, but Tampa is beating Saints 14-3. Did the Saints peak too soon?
I'll bet when the Raiders traded Cooper to a 3-5 team, they were licking their chops at a possible top 10 pick next year. Lick away because you'll be getting something in the mid 20's or later
That’s a fair assessment especially since Mark Sanchez is their QB
Someone should let the Cowboys know that they have a game today.
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Totally agree. The dream just turned into a nightmare!!!!!
I wonder what the record is for changing the title of a thread.
Dandy Don is tuning up for the season ending song!!!! Why do I keep falling for this crap???!!!!
I did it this way rather than start a new thread each week.
Dimeman starting to panic like a Chiefs defensive back when the ball is coming their way.
Dimeman- just having a little fun. I know its frustrating when your team is playing like crap in what
should have been a competitive game.
Hang in there, Dallas still has a great shot at making the playoffs.
I thought they were finally peaking at the right time and then they lay this egg!
Even with this loss they're still in the driver's seat for the division but they gotta win their last two to keep any hope of a 10-6 season alive.
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Not getting my hopes up at this point!
I thought Dandy Don was dead?
They got this. Washington would need to win their last two games AND have Dallas lose both of their two. If they both finish 9-7,Dallas would get the tiebreaker finishing with a better division record.
Philly would need to beat the Rams tonight then win their last two with Dallas losing their last two. Dallas owns the head to head there.
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