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  • zep33zep33 Posts: 6,897 ✭✭✭

    Hi guys :)

  • softparadesoftparade Posts: 9,267 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 28, 2019 5:04AM

    @Walt said:
    Well it was my birthday and I heard heritage was good so I bought two boxes. Hit two autographs (Muncy and Story) and an SSP Acuna Jr. french back. Nice stuff, but the good old days are gone. You used to get 4 chrome cards a box and now with the odds, you get 5 chromes a case. Good luck to all!

    Last time I did Heritage in force was 2007. The reg chromes were printed to like 1958 or whatever to match the year being highlighted. Now they are less than 1,000 printed. MUCH TOUGHER .... out of all that retail I busted yesterday I pulled two regular chromes. One refractor. Then the purple hot box.

    ISO 1978 Topps Baseball in NM-MT High Grade Raw 3, 100, 103, 302, 347, 376, 416, 466, 481, 487, 509, 534, 540, 554, 579, 580, 622, 642, 673, 724__________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ISO 1978 O-Pee-Chee in NM-MT High Grade Raw12, 21, 29, 38, 49, 65, 69, 73, 74, 81, 95, 100, 104, 110, 115, 122, 132, 133, 135, 140, 142, 151, 153, 155, 160, 161, 167, 168, 172, 179, 181, 196, 200, 204, 210, 224, 231, 240

  • KnopflerKnopfler Posts: 783 ✭✭✭

    Best two cards from my 1.5 case rip.

  • countdouglascountdouglas Posts: 2,271 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Maybe because not many have been ripping yet, but I'm surprised there hasn't been more discussion about Topps including ALL of the superstars and desirable players within the 400s on the checklist, where the SPs reside. Last year, the odds were 1 SP every 3 packs, or 8 per box, or 96 per case. If those odds are the same this year, you will at best get only one of the star you're looking for PER CASE. If lady luck is not with you, you could rip a whole case and never see a Trout or Acuna or Soto.

  • Mick65Mick65 Posts: 722 ✭✭✭

    I jumped in an ordered a couple of boxes directly from Topps. Once you add in shipping and tax, I don't think I saved any money. $85 a box at Topps, versus $95 box at Blowout or Dave & Adam. (I don't believe they charge for tax or shipping so it was a wash). I bought a couple of the "2019 Heritage Baseball Online Exclusive Box", which were $22 each. I think they come with an extra pack (9 versus 8). Just seems like I spent a lot of money.... for what I am getting... got my fingers crossed... haha

  • Mick65Mick65 Posts: 722 ✭✭✭

    @countdouglas said:
    Maybe because not many have been ripping yet, but I'm surprised there hasn't been more discussion about Topps including ALL of the superstars and desirable players within the 400s on the checklist, where the SPs reside. Last year, the odds were 1 SP every 3 packs, or 8 per box, or 96 per case. If those odds are the same this year, you will at best get only one of the star you're looking for PER CASE. If lady luck is not with you, you could rip a whole case and never see a Trout or Acuna or Soto.

    I think 8 SP per box has been the standard, hasn't it? When there were only 75 in the set, it was possible to get the whole set in one case... I thought the SP's were getting squeezed out by all the other chase cards. Even making the subsets like the "Then and Now", "Flashbacks"....tougher to complete.

  • softparadesoftparade Posts: 9,267 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The SP hit ratio is fine. Just like I remember it. Problem is there are 100 of them on top of the subsets. It's the CHROMES that are getting squeezed out by production.

    ISO 1978 Topps Baseball in NM-MT High Grade Raw 3, 100, 103, 302, 347, 376, 416, 466, 481, 487, 509, 534, 540, 554, 579, 580, 622, 642, 673, 724__________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ISO 1978 O-Pee-Chee in NM-MT High Grade Raw12, 21, 29, 38, 49, 65, 69, 73, 74, 81, 95, 100, 104, 110, 115, 122, 132, 133, 135, 140, 142, 151, 153, 155, 160, 161, 167, 168, 172, 179, 181, 196, 200, 204, 210, 224, 231, 240

  • wadevlwadevl Posts: 224 ✭✭✭

    The OOOLLLLDD Hot Box!

    @Rofles said:

    @softparade said:
    I don’t know the significance of Purple Chromes yet (they aren’t numbered) but I just ripped a 8 pack retail box that had a purple chrome in EVERY pack.

    Is the purple an exclusive to the retail store you got them at? I think they are

    Lucky
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  • countdouglascountdouglas Posts: 2,271 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It's not the SP ratio that is the problem, it's the fact that the entire SP checklist is made up of All-Stars and superstars and rookie cup cards. Every player that you literally want to actually own is an SP. Meanwhile, middle relievers and backup infielders will clog up your collection at a ratio of 7:1 or whatever it is compared to the number of Trout or Ohtani or Harper or Bryant or....name any star, and I bet they're in the 400s on the checklist.

  • softparadesoftparade Posts: 9,267 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @countdouglas said:
    It's not the SP ratio that is the problem, it's the fact that the entire SP checklist is made up of All-Stars and superstars and rookie cup cards. Every player that you literally want to actually own is an SP. Meanwhile, middle relievers and backup infielders will clog up your collection at a ratio of 7:1 or whatever it is compared to the number of Trout or Ohtani or Harper or Bryant or....name any star, and I bet they're in the 400s on the checklist.

    Means nothing to me as I build a master set so I want just one of all of them. But I get it.

    ISO 1978 Topps Baseball in NM-MT High Grade Raw 3, 100, 103, 302, 347, 376, 416, 466, 481, 487, 509, 534, 540, 554, 579, 580, 622, 642, 673, 724__________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ISO 1978 O-Pee-Chee in NM-MT High Grade Raw12, 21, 29, 38, 49, 65, 69, 73, 74, 81, 95, 100, 104, 110, 115, 122, 132, 133, 135, 140, 142, 151, 153, 155, 160, 161, 167, 168, 172, 179, 181, 196, 200, 204, 210, 224, 231, 240

  • pjb103183pjb103183 Posts: 1,330 ✭✭✭

    Should be a fun rip session over a few beers tonight 😁

  • Mick65Mick65 Posts: 722 ✭✭✭

    @countdouglas said:
    It's not the SP ratio that is the problem, it's the fact that the entire SP checklist is made up of All-Stars and superstars and rookie cup cards. Every player that you literally want to actually own is an SP. Meanwhile, middle relievers and backup infielders will clog up your collection at a ratio of 7:1 or whatever it is compared to the number of Trout or Ohtani or Harper or Bryant or....name any star, and I bet they're in the 400s on the checklist.

    OK, yeah I agree. They are trying to "artificially" create value by making the superstars SP's. Kind of turning them into chase cards. But is that new?

  • softparadesoftparade Posts: 9,267 ✭✭✭✭✭

    In the end I stress over the which base card makes my set. > @Mick65 said:

    @countdouglas said:
    It's not the SP ratio that is the problem, it's the fact that the entire SP checklist is made up of All-Stars and superstars and rookie cup cards. Every player that you literally want to actually own is an SP. Meanwhile, middle relievers and backup infielders will clog up your collection at a ratio of 7:1 or whatever it is compared to the number of Trout or Ohtani or Harper or Bryant or....name any star, and I bet they're in the 400s on the checklist.

    OK, yeah I agree. They are trying to "artificially" create value by making the superstars SP's. Kind of turning them into chase cards. But is that new?

    No. It's the opposite of what Donruss did in 1988 LOL

    ISO 1978 Topps Baseball in NM-MT High Grade Raw 3, 100, 103, 302, 347, 376, 416, 466, 481, 487, 509, 534, 540, 554, 579, 580, 622, 642, 673, 724__________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ISO 1978 O-Pee-Chee in NM-MT High Grade Raw12, 21, 29, 38, 49, 65, 69, 73, 74, 81, 95, 100, 104, 110, 115, 122, 132, 133, 135, 140, 142, 151, 153, 155, 160, 161, 167, 168, 172, 179, 181, 196, 200, 204, 210, 224, 231, 240

  • Stone193Stone193 Posts: 24,351 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I've been collecting Heritage since it started.

    I never know what to expect - I guess that makes it fun.

    I will say tho - last year - every time me and Mary went to Target, if they had a few blasters? I was in.

    Problem? I definitely overspent. This year? I'm watching myself.

    Mike
  • softparadesoftparade Posts: 9,267 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Stone193 said:
    I've been collecting Heritage since it started.

    I never know what to expect - I guess that makes it fun.

    I will say tho - last year - every time me and Mary went to Target, if they had a few blasters? I was in.

    Problem? I definitely overspent. This year? I'm watching myself.

    I have a blaster case coming, will hit more retail on top of yesterdays start and then I hope I can rely on trading. BUT .... BUT... it looks like the reg Chrome set is out of the question now .... that sucks because I have it from 2005, 2006, and 2007.

    ISO 1978 Topps Baseball in NM-MT High Grade Raw 3, 100, 103, 302, 347, 376, 416, 466, 481, 487, 509, 534, 540, 554, 579, 580, 622, 642, 673, 724__________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ISO 1978 O-Pee-Chee in NM-MT High Grade Raw12, 21, 29, 38, 49, 65, 69, 73, 74, 81, 95, 100, 104, 110, 115, 122, 132, 133, 135, 140, 142, 151, 153, 155, 160, 161, 167, 168, 172, 179, 181, 196, 200, 204, 210, 224, 231, 240

  • Stone193Stone193 Posts: 24,351 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The chromes used to be way easier Dan.

    I don't even try anymore.

    Mike
  • softparadesoftparade Posts: 9,267 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Stone193 said:
    The chromes used to be way easier Dan.

    I don't even try anymore.

    Yeah I'm begrudgingly coming to that realization.

    ISO 1978 Topps Baseball in NM-MT High Grade Raw 3, 100, 103, 302, 347, 376, 416, 466, 481, 487, 509, 534, 540, 554, 579, 580, 622, 642, 673, 724__________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ISO 1978 O-Pee-Chee in NM-MT High Grade Raw12, 21, 29, 38, 49, 65, 69, 73, 74, 81, 95, 100, 104, 110, 115, 122, 132, 133, 135, 140, 142, 151, 153, 155, 160, 161, 167, 168, 172, 179, 181, 196, 200, 204, 210, 224, 231, 240

  • pjb103183pjb103183 Posts: 1,330 ✭✭✭

    @pjb103183 said:

    Should be a fun rip session over a few beers tonight 😁

    Had to grab a few target exclusive boxes as well

  • softparadesoftparade Posts: 9,267 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I pulled six candy top lids (YAWN) from my Target haul yesterday. Now I know why I didn't hit a auto or even one relic. They aren't in those candy lid version blaster boxes.

    ISO 1978 Topps Baseball in NM-MT High Grade Raw 3, 100, 103, 302, 347, 376, 416, 466, 481, 487, 509, 534, 540, 554, 579, 580, 622, 642, 673, 724__________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ISO 1978 O-Pee-Chee in NM-MT High Grade Raw12, 21, 29, 38, 49, 65, 69, 73, 74, 81, 95, 100, 104, 110, 115, 122, 132, 133, 135, 140, 142, 151, 153, 155, 160, 161, 167, 168, 172, 179, 181, 196, 200, 204, 210, 224, 231, 240

  • pjb103183pjb103183 Posts: 1,330 ✭✭✭

    @softparade said:
    I pulled six candy top lids (YAWN) from my Target haul yesterday. Now I know why I didn't hit a auto or even one relic. They aren't in those candy lid version blaster boxes.

    They are in the stated odds on the back of the box, but not advertised on the front as they are the regular blasters

  • ZTargZTarg Posts: 497 ✭✭✭

    The eagle (my case) has landed. I repeat, the eagle (my case) has landed.

  • ZTargZTarg Posts: 497 ✭✭✭

    @zep33 said:
    Hi guys :)

    Hi Mike. :)

  • ZTargZTarg Posts: 497 ✭✭✭

    Here's a nce picture in honor of the return of my buddy Zep33.

  • magellanmagellan Posts: 2,099 ✭✭✭

    @ZTarg said:
    The eagle (my case) has landed. I repeat, the eagle (my case) has landed.

    Mine has too there ole tzarg.

    Topps Heritage

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    Topps Heritage

    1957 Topps BB Ex+-NM
    All Yaz Items 7+
    Various Red Sox
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  • softparadesoftparade Posts: 9,267 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Anybody in to these candy lid Target inserts? I have six of them for early trade. Please PM

    ISO 1978 Topps Baseball in NM-MT High Grade Raw 3, 100, 103, 302, 347, 376, 416, 466, 481, 487, 509, 534, 540, 554, 579, 580, 622, 642, 673, 724__________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ISO 1978 O-Pee-Chee in NM-MT High Grade Raw12, 21, 29, 38, 49, 65, 69, 73, 74, 81, 95, 100, 104, 110, 115, 122, 132, 133, 135, 140, 142, 151, 153, 155, 160, 161, 167, 168, 172, 179, 181, 196, 200, 204, 210, 224, 231, 240

  • krisd3279krisd3279 Posts: 808 ✭✭✭✭

    My eagle is still flying around. Haven't made it to the LCS yet and the two nearest Walmarts had zippo.

    Kris

    My 1971 Topps adventure - Davis Men in Black

  • zep33zep33 Posts: 6,897 ✭✭✭

    @ZTarg said:
    Here's a nce picture in honor of the return of my buddy Zep33.

    haha, the old pyramid of Heritage :)

  • @softparade said:
    Anybody in to these candy lid Target inserts? I have six of them for early trade. Please PM

    I would love to take them off your hands. All chromes except for the Rangers will be available. Case is sitting next to me. Will stop at Wal Mart on the way home for some retail. Hit Target at lunch.

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  • ZTargZTarg Posts: 497 ✭✭✭

    In memory of great heritage threads from years past I will do a live break of my case box by box.

    Box 1 of 12
    1970 buyback box topper
    Short Prints - 8
    NAP - 4
    T&N - 2
    BF - 1
    NF - 1
    Chrome - 0
    Refractor - 0
    Black border - Jason Kipnis
    Scratch off - Freddie Freeman
    Danny Jansen Blue Auto

  • ZTargZTarg Posts: 497 ✭✭✭

    In memory of great heritage threads from years past I will do a live break of my case box by box.

    Box 2 of 12
    1970 buyback box topper - unopened
    Short Prints - 8
    NAP - 4
    T&N - 1
    BF - 1
    NF - 2
    Chrome - 1
    Refractor - 0
    Black border - Greg Bird
    Scratch off - Khris Davis
    Danny Jansen Blue Auto - AGAIN Really Topps?

  • softparadesoftparade Posts: 9,267 ✭✭✭✭✭

    ISO 1978 Topps Baseball in NM-MT High Grade Raw 3, 100, 103, 302, 347, 376, 416, 466, 481, 487, 509, 534, 540, 554, 579, 580, 622, 642, 673, 724__________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ISO 1978 O-Pee-Chee in NM-MT High Grade Raw12, 21, 29, 38, 49, 65, 69, 73, 74, 81, 95, 100, 104, 110, 115, 122, 132, 133, 135, 140, 142, 151, 153, 155, 160, 161, 167, 168, 172, 179, 181, 196, 200, 204, 210, 224, 231, 240

  • softparadesoftparade Posts: 9,267 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Retail Round 2. And probably my last big retail purchase.

    ISO 1978 Topps Baseball in NM-MT High Grade Raw 3, 100, 103, 302, 347, 376, 416, 466, 481, 487, 509, 534, 540, 554, 579, 580, 622, 642, 673, 724__________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ISO 1978 O-Pee-Chee in NM-MT High Grade Raw12, 21, 29, 38, 49, 65, 69, 73, 74, 81, 95, 100, 104, 110, 115, 122, 132, 133, 135, 140, 142, 151, 153, 155, 160, 161, 167, 168, 172, 179, 181, 196, 200, 204, 210, 224, 231, 240

  • magellanmagellan Posts: 2,099 ✭✭✭

    @ZTarg said:
    In memory of great heritage threads from years past I will do a live break of my case box by box.

    Box 2 of 12
    1970 buyback box topper - unopened
    Short Prints - 8
    NAP - 4
    T&N - 1
    BF - 1
    NF - 2
    Chrome - 1
    Refractor - 0
    Black border - Greg Bird
    Scratch off - Khris Davis
    Danny Jansen Blue Auto - AGAIN Really Topps?

    Seriously-2 boxes, 2 Jansen Autos :o . Those crazy Topps guys.

    Topps Heritage

    Now collecting:
    Topps Heritage

    1957 Topps BB Ex+-NM
    All Yaz Items 7+
    Various Red Sox
    Did I leave anything out?
  • magellanmagellan Posts: 2,099 ✭✭✭
    edited February 28, 2019 5:20PM

    Seems that since Nick is posting as he goes like we all used to......I'll post 1st 3 boxes combined:
    25 SP's
    2 action-tucker , Arenado
    3 scratch offs
    3 CC-Price, DeGrom. Encarcianon
    refractor/570-Mikolas
    chrome/999-Altuve
    black border-Cesar Hernandez
    12 NAP
    4 TN
    4 News FB
    4 BB FB
    Also:
    1 Super-TRout
    2 buybacks

    Topps Heritage

    Now collecting:
    Topps Heritage

    1957 Topps BB Ex+-NM
    All Yaz Items 7+
    Various Red Sox
    Did I leave anything out?
  • ZTargZTarg Posts: 497 ✭✭✭

    Box 3 of 12
    1970 buyback box topper - unopened
    Short Prints - 8
    NAP - 4
    T&N - 2
    BF - 1
    NF - 1
    Chrome - 0
    Refractor - 1
    Action Variation - Danny Jansen I guess I got the Danny Jansen hot case
    Scratch off - Francisco Lindor
    Christian Yelich bat relic

    Couldn't give me the Trout or Judge case Topps?

  • I ordered 2 hobby boxes a few weeks ago. I opened one today. It was a hot box...so...

    NAP: 4
    T&N:1
    BF: 2
    NF:1
    Chrome: 1 (Benintendi)
    Scratch off: Kershaw
    Freddy Freeman Patch Relic
    Purple Chrome: 24

  • ZTargZTarg Posts: 497 ✭✭✭
    edited February 28, 2019 5:43PM

    Box 4 of 12
    1970 buyback box topper - unopened
    Short Prints - 8
    NAP - 4
    T&N - 1
    BF - 2
    NF - 1
    Chrome - 0
    Refractor - 1
    French back - Matt Carpenter
    Action Variation - Shohei Ohtani
    Scratch off - Jose Altuve
    Dellin Betances jersey relic

  • magellanmagellan Posts: 2,099 ✭✭✭

    Box 4:
    Rhys Hopkins poster
    8 SP
    Sean Newcomb black border
    Cain scratch off
    Torres French text
    McCovey postage stamp
    4 NAP
    2 TN , 1 with a trashed corner
    1 News FB
    1 BB fb

    Topps Heritage

    Now collecting:
    Topps Heritage

    1957 Topps BB Ex+-NM
    All Yaz Items 7+
    Various Red Sox
    Did I leave anything out?

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    What I'm selling
    image

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  • magellanmagellan Posts: 2,099 ✭✭✭

    Box 5:
    8 SP
    1 Action-Altuve
    1 Refractor/570-Acuna
    1 Sratch off-Kershaw
    1 CC-Bryant
    4 NAP
    1 TN
    2 News FB
    1 BB FB
    1 buyback topper

    Topps Heritage

    Now collecting:
    Topps Heritage

    1957 Topps BB Ex+-NM
    All Yaz Items 7+
    Various Red Sox
    Did I leave anything out?
  • ZTargZTarg Posts: 497 ✭✭✭

    I'm feeling some ink for you in box 6 or 7 Dave. I just hope it better than Danny Jansen.

  • softparadesoftparade Posts: 9,267 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Acuna Walmart exclusive Walmart Cloth Sticker pretty cool

    ISO 1978 Topps Baseball in NM-MT High Grade Raw 3, 100, 103, 302, 347, 376, 416, 466, 481, 487, 509, 534, 540, 554, 579, 580, 622, 642, 673, 724__________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ISO 1978 O-Pee-Chee in NM-MT High Grade Raw12, 21, 29, 38, 49, 65, 69, 73, 74, 81, 95, 100, 104, 110, 115, 122, 132, 133, 135, 140, 142, 151, 153, 155, 160, 161, 167, 168, 172, 179, 181, 196, 200, 204, 210, 224, 231, 240

  • Stone193Stone193 Posts: 24,351 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @zep33 said:
    Hi guys :)

    Missed this post - hiya Mike!!

    Mike
  • ZTargZTarg Posts: 497 ✭✭✭

    Also Dave (magellan) take a look at your 25 SPs from your first 3 boxes. Topps is pretty good about 8 per box, so one of those 25 might be a variation (ie. action, trade, error, etc....)

  • ZTargZTarg Posts: 497 ✭✭✭

    Box 5 of 12
    1970 Super box topper - Shohei Ohtani
    Short Prints - 8
    NAP - 4
    T&N - 1
    BF - 2
    NF - 1
    Chrome - 1 Judge
    Refractor - 0
    Action Variation - Kris Bryant
    Scratch off - Yadier Molina
    Scooter Gennett jersey relic

  • Stone193Stone193 Posts: 24,351 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I stopped at the closest Walmart and Target today - nothing.

    Will check again tomorrow - just out of curiosity?

    Mike
  • softparadesoftparade Posts: 9,267 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Judge Walmart Exclusive Cloth Sticker. I like


    ISO 1978 Topps Baseball in NM-MT High Grade Raw 3, 100, 103, 302, 347, 376, 416, 466, 481, 487, 509, 534, 540, 554, 579, 580, 622, 642, 673, 724__________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ISO 1978 O-Pee-Chee in NM-MT High Grade Raw12, 21, 29, 38, 49, 65, 69, 73, 74, 81, 95, 100, 104, 110, 115, 122, 132, 133, 135, 140, 142, 151, 153, 155, 160, 161, 167, 168, 172, 179, 181, 196, 200, 204, 210, 224, 231, 240

  • magellanmagellan Posts: 2,099 ✭✭✭

    @ZTarg said:
    Also Dave (magellan) take a look at your 25 SPs from your first 3 boxes. Topps is pretty good about 8 per box, so one of those 25 might be a variation (ie. action, trade, error, etc....)

    I'll double check, thanks Nick.

    Topps Heritage

    Now collecting:
    Topps Heritage

    1957 Topps BB Ex+-NM
    All Yaz Items 7+
    Various Red Sox
    Did I leave anything out?
  • ahopkinsahopkins Posts: 1,094 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @softparade said:
    Judge Walmart Exclusive Cloth Sticker. I like


    That's a nice looking piece of cloth. What's going on with the bottom right corner? I'd hate for you to say it's flawed.

    Andy

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