The Memorial "Ebay seller "nedsk" - Anyone win his auctions?" Thread aka "

SoFLPhillyFan · June 4, 2005 12:41PM

We have talked about this seller for the last week.

I keep checking his feedback and still don't see anything from buyers of his recent unopened product. Could be a delay since he takes only checks/money orders.

There seem to be plenty of bidders, but I'm a little leery when he has no feedback yet for high dollar material, other than the one Cracker Jack card.

Has anyone won one of his auctions?

Any other new info on this seller?

Keith

ArchStanton · June 4, 2005 1:54PM

Those auctions spooked me too much. I think it was another attempt by paoutdoorsman-whoever. That guy was located somewhere between State College, PA and Carlisle, PA. I'm not sure what nedsk is, but it may have something to do with the wildlife artist Ned Smith. He was from that area.

Sounds strange that a guy with such a huge attempt at a scam couldn't get his mind to switch gears for a user name. However, most criminals who use an alias or even multiple aliases will either use a variation of their first name as their last name or vice versa. Even if the aka is not use a variation of his own name, he will most likely use several of the consonants from his own name - even with multiple aliases. Anyhow, I was not about to tempt fate.

Sorry for the babble. I'm just saying that if you sell big ticket items, then you should consider to take paypal or an escrow service, answer emails, provide scans or photos upon request. I know it can be a lot of work, but we are potentially talking about a lot of money.

MiniMaster · June 6, 2005 4:42AM

It has been two weeks and I have yet to receive the item I purchased......75 Topps Mini Unopened Wax Box. It would be a shame if in fact this "nedsk" is a scammer! Being a "Power Seller" with over 1500 feedback rating and 99.9% positive feedback. This type of crime would not at all help eBay's image if they allowed this type of seller to continue to create auctions? I must report that I have sent 2 e-mails requesting status on my purchase and have not yet received a reply from either. The first sent last Thursday and the 2nd one early today. It is beginning to worry me as I see the seller has several high end items still up for auction. Including coins, unopened baseball, basketball, football wax boxes. Several have bids on them. My purchase date was May 19th. I sent payment on May 23 in the form of Money Order. Definately should have heard something by now! Guess I'll have to contact eBay in the near future if I don't hear anything from seller? Perhaps e-mails should be sent to all current bidders on items he is currently selling to warn them? Any thoughts on this idea?

Anyone else out there having similar problems?

smallstocks · June 6, 2005 4:52AM

I don't care how big a seller you may be - payments should be acknowledged, especially if you don't plan to ship immediately. I think it is bad business practice not to ship within a couple of days after a money order is cashed.

Mike

stevek · June 6, 2005 5:49AM

PhillyFan - Yea, I've been watching this myself just out of curiosity. No way was I thinking for a second about bidding on this stuff.

Not to browbeat anyone here, and I would never root against anyone getting scammed and not getting their merchandise - but we clearly warned you about this guy. We ain't right here every single time about scammers, but we are right most every time.

Once in a while an "I told you so thread" gets posted by someone who very luckily, despite the warnings of a likely scammer, winds up getting a good buy or maybe even a bargin. I hope the one poster here winds up with a good buy and gets his merchandise. But when constantly winning bids in situations like this, overall you are going to lose money bigtime.

Steve

julen23 · June 6, 2005 6:12AM

MiniMaster,

I truly hope "nedsk" is simply really busy sending out all the wax boxes and stuff he was selling last week. To be devil's advocate, sometimes the seller is simply too busy or isn't managing his time so very well to respond to things or mail out stuff on time.

~2 weeks and no reply is frustrating and you're probably jonesing to get your goods, so do what you can in the interim. Notify paypal and see what info you can get on the seller, did he leave a phone# associated w/ auction?

This does support theory of buying from reputables: bbckid.com and bbcexchange when it comes to unopened wax boxes though.

Julen

Griffins · June 6, 2005 6:18AM

I made arrangements to pick up my lot in person and pay in cash, and he agreed. But I haven't heard back yet on the specific time, and it's been 5 days. He was quick to respond last week so he may have just taken the weekend off.

SoFLPhillyFan · June 6, 2005 6:25AM

Sounds like it's still a little too early to tell if this guy is real or a scammer.

I seem to remember some of his feedback stating that he takes awhile to ship. Hope that is exactly what is happening for those who sent payment.

Too early to light the torches and march on Carlisle, but if a few board members get ripped we will surely make this guy's selling career a horror show.

WinPitcher · June 6, 2005 6:28AM

Anyone have a link?

SoFLPhillyFan · June 6, 2005 6:29AM

Listed some more of the same stuff yesterday, and some of the really high dollar boxes end in the next few hours.
An 86 Fleer Bskt wax box, etc.

nedsk items

stevek · June 6, 2005 6:56AM

<<< nedsk items >>>

This guy in my opinion is obviously going for a massive kill. And he's getting it - I hope he also gets some jail time. But these "professional" scammers seem to tactically know their way around the legal system to avoid prosecution. Crime does pay on Ebay.

<<<I made arrangements to pick up my lot in person and pay in cash, and he agreed. But I haven't heard back yet on the specific time, and it's been 5 days. He was quick to respond last week so he may have just taken the weekend off. >>>

And you ain't gonna hear from him - he just "agreed" so as to buy some time and avoid any negs. You are probably as likely to find this guy in Carlisle as you are to find Jim Thorpe walking around alive in Carlisle.

Remember something scammers, especially international scammers, there are banking and check cashing services, perfectly legal, whereby an international seller arranges to have checks and money orders sent to these service companies. One of these companies could be in Carlisle. Can somebody post the address to where the checks are being sent? Odds are it's a check cashing service or something like that. The checks and money orders are cashed, a fee is taken out by the service company, and the money is wired to an international bank account somewhere. All the ebay copy stuff that you include is mailed to the seller probably to some address in Nigeria that doesn't even exist. The service company, to my knowledge, I'm not a lawyer, can't be prosecuted for doing this - if scammed it is up to you to hop on a plane, find the seller in Nigeria, and sue him through the Nigerian court system.

Steve

ctsoxfan · June 6, 2005 7:03AM

I have been saying all along that something seems fishy with these items - but I cannot explain exactly why. For example, how do you explain the 1500+ feedback and Powerseller status? Did he just sell a bunch of small items, with this as his master plan all along?

I just wonder how one person could have all of these hard to find unopened boxes in his possession, and not sell them via Mastro, Lelands - etc.

SoFLPhillyFan · June 6, 2005 7:07AM

I'm still not ready to call this a scam yet.

The seller has too much feedback, although less then 1/3 of his 1500+ came as a seller.

This would be a good one if it goes sour. Unless the username is hijacked (which seems doubtful), or he has willingly let someone use his account.

stevek · June 6, 2005 7:31AM

PhillyFan - I completely hear ya and understand your point of view on this. But look at it the other way. Buy and sell a number of lots, even some high value lots mixed in, do this for some months and build up the feedback, maybe even lose some money building up the feedback. But then coming in with a huge scam like this which could net you $50,000 to $100,000 in cash. Would this be worth it if you "knew" you lived in Nigeria or some former Soviet Union country whereby the legal system is completely corrupt and you wouldn't have to worry about going to jail? And you're only ripping off some seemingly "rich" Americans anyway? Well, it is worth it, well worth it to these people to put in the time and effort to setup the scam so that it works. These internet thieves almost have it down to a science...almost. We at CU can still spot these sophisticated arch-criminals but it is getting tougher because they are getting smarter also in learning how to fool people.

Again - Can someone post the address to where the checks are being sent?

Steve

sagard · June 6, 2005 7:47AM

<< I have been saying all along that something seems fishy with these items - but I cannot explain exactly why. For example, how do you explain the 1500+ feedback and Powerseller status? Did he just sell a bunch of small items, with this as his master plan all along?

I just wonder how one person could have all of these hard to find unopened boxes in his possession, and not sell them via Mastro, Lelands - etc. >>

Hijacked accounts would give the scammer this immediately. I've also heard that people have been offer cash for their Ebay account, often not insigificant amounts of cash. Scammer then changes the contact information and the account is effectively transferred.

WinPitcher · June 6, 2005 8:18AM

Looking at his recent feedback as a SELLER and he sold 2 US notes to some guy for 1k each. Buyer was satisfied. Buyer also has decent feedback. I think that we may be a lil paranoid here?

TheCARDKid · June 6, 2005 8:20AM

He's sold a ton of stuff in the last two months:

-$7,500 worth of Cracker Jacks (One to Keppler, one to Mickeys Sportscards)

-Thousands of dollars worth of coins and bank notes.

-Tons of cards (including an 80/81 Topps basketball box).

He's also been a member since June of 2000. How many scammers have the patience to wait for 5 years?

Where would he get all of these pics from (71/72 Topps basketball box is something you almost never see)?

Yet at the same time, the quantity of merchandise raises a red flag in my mind. Don't know...

ldferg · June 6, 2005 8:57AM

similar pics were displayed with the paoutdoorsman. he had pics of high dollar cases among cases of stuff.

the 86f bkb is a relist from a non-paying bidder. go back and look at the 86f wax and you can easily see shill bidding as well.

jayhawke · June 6, 2005 9:13AM

I emailed him and asked about the stars cards from the 4 opened '75 mini boxes. His response was that he didn't know what was included in the lot. All I can say is ????? You opened 4 boxes and can't tell me the stars included. How about looking lazy man.

stevek · June 6, 2005 9:19AM

Yep - it is completely understandable what everyone is saying here - pro and con as to whether or not this is a scam. Also remember that scammers know that the bigger the scam, the more likely it is to be believed by the public - this has been illustrated in big scams throughout history, including recent history. And I believe this is a big scam. Not paranoid - just weighing the evidence so far.

Steve

earlycalguy · June 6, 2005 9:20AM

the person who posted who's waiting for the merchandise and has not heard from him - have you requested contact info via ebay? I'd get his phone number and give him a call.

stevek · June 6, 2005 9:23AM

<<< I emailed him and asked about the stars cards from the 4 opened '75 mini boxes. His response was that he didn't know what was included in the lot. All I can say is ????? You opened 4 boxes and can't tell me the stars included. How about looking lazy man. >>>

Notice he seems e-mail responsive with potential bidders and not responsive to the winning bidders. Paoutdoorsman2004 was the exact same way.

IJustLoveCards · June 6, 2005 9:33AM

to say nothing to the buyer after several emails, yet responsive to potential buyers..I am on my way with my two friends to visit him..

Mr. Smith and Mr. Wesson

ajw · June 6, 2005 1:02PM

Has there been any chatter from the coin guys? Has anyone done any CSI work on the photos? Do they look they were taken with the same settings/camera/whatever? (I've seen other scams busted by detecting differences in the stolen photos.)

Edited to say: I made a post on one of the coin boards asking for their input. Maybe they can shed some light on the issue.

RobBobGolf · June 6, 2005 1:15PM

I sent an e-mail asking for a history on one of the wax boxes. Also inquired as to picking up in person. Here is his reply......

I don't know what a history has to do with the box and I am really too busy to set up times with everyone for pickups, thanks.

Have a nice life dude!

My BS meter is peggin in the red.

XpipedreamR · June 6, 2005 1:16PM

Wow...it's like a whole other world over here. Very "Star Trek" alternate dimension-ish

PS: I'd be MORE than happy to let someone else take the chance and find out whether this one is legit.

TheCARDKid · June 6, 2005 1:42PM

<< I sent an e-mail asking for a history on one of the wax boxes. Also inquired as to picking up in person. Here is his reply......

I don't know what a history has to do with the box and I am really too busy to set up times with everyone for pickups, thanks.

Have a nice life dude!

My BS meter is peggin in the red. >>

I was going to email him and ask about the history of his 71/72 Topps basketball box (if he got it from an auction or major dealer).

He'll probably respond by saying..."what's a major dealer?" , lol.

SoFLPhillyFan · June 6, 2005 2:08PM

<< Wow...it's like a whole other world over here. Very "Star Trek" alternate dimension-ish >>

Yes it is true...you have entered the Bizarro Collecting World.

Now run Coin Boy......run like the wind,

before we snare you in our trap and convince you that collecting cardboard is much more profitable than collecting real money.

ctsoxfan · June 6, 2005 2:23PM

<< I sent an e-mail asking for a history on one of the wax boxes. Also inquired as to picking up in person. Here is his reply......

I don't know what a history has to do with the box and I am really too busy to set up times with everyone for pickups, thanks.

Have a nice life dude!

My BS meter is peggin in the red. >>

See - that type of response has got to set off a red flag. I really wish someone could verify is he was for real or not - I would love to bid on a few boxes...but the chances for getting taken are just too great.

rana · June 6, 2005 5:38PM

His new auctions are private "at the request of bidders". Yeah, right! No feedback on any of the recent rare lots. Scam, Scam Scam!

Remember that even a previously good seller can have his eBay/email account hacked and used to post fake auctions. Use both your common sense along with feedback as a guide.

jayhawke · June 6, 2005 8:24PM

"I don't know what a history has to do with the box and I am really too busy to set up times with everyone for pickups, thanks."

From what I can recall his response has the same tone as reponses from paoutdoorsman. Stay away!! Even if someone knew the other people who left postive feedback, they were for items either graded or raw. A big difference from unopened material.

packCollector · June 7, 2005 12:47AM

SoFLPhillyFan · June 7, 2005 9:08PM

Now that this seller has changed his auctions to private bidding, I join the naysayers in saying that this is a scam.

Thanks to those who mentioned his pictures are taken in different settings. Some are in a warehouse, others with a black background. This tells me that his pics are stolen from other auctions.

Also, it looks as if he has not had any feedback for quite some time, the last being for a sale in April.

Stay away from this guy.

Keith

Griffins · June 8, 2005 1:00AM

I spoke to him yesterday, stay tuned.

RobBobGolf · June 8, 2005 10:03AM

OK, I'm tuned. Give us the skinny on that "talk".

softparade · June 8, 2005 10:34AM

<< I spoke to him yesterday, stay tuned. >>

Oh I just love secrets

SoFLPhillyFan · June 8, 2005 11:18AM

Now I'm really confused. Griffins gets his card, but I swear that this auction is a paoutdoorsman rerun.
Remember this picture?

85 racks auction

pandrews · June 8, 2005 11:46AM

i was never 100% convinced the paoutdoorsman auctions weren't legit..

lommer · June 8, 2005 12:35PM

Did anyone actually get ripped off by paoutdoorsman last year or was he just NARU'd because people gave him negative feedback for not taking paypal?

stevek · June 8, 2005 12:39PM

<<< I made arrangements to pick up my lot in person and pay in cash, and he agreed. But I haven't heard back yet on the specific time, and it's been 5 days. He was quick to respond last week so he may have just taken the weekend off. >>>

<<< Griffins gets his card >>> ???

I guess Griffins must be psa10gold. That's the only feedback the seller has received since the thread started and as of this post.

Griffins · June 8, 2005 12:41PM

Nope, I"m anthony.aol Just left feedback.

earlycalguy · June 8, 2005 12:45PM

this person bought a $4 card from me a few weeks ago. maybe he bought some cheap stuff to get his feedback up. he's buying cheap cards for himself and then selling the 1,000 dollar unopened packs? seems strange.

ldferg · June 8, 2005 12:55PM

i guess i'm eating crow at this point...2 positive feedbacks tonite for nedsk.

maybe these will be legit after all...

Onlypsahockey · June 9, 2005 7:51AM

I asked Jay Wolt about this guy last night and here is his reply.

Bob, he is legit as I have (Griffins) card in my possession.

Regards, Jay

Bob

MiniMaster · June 9, 2005 4:38PM

Fellow members I'm very sad to report that even though I received my 75 Topps Mini Wax Box from "nedsk" the other day......it is quite obvious the packs were previously opened

I have only opened a few and when I peeled open the outer seal it was very easy to open and the inner folds were very loose and fell right open. I even found a card with a wax stain on the back and it wasn't even against the outside of the wax pack! I'm not to happy as this is the first time in a year and a half I've taken like that. I regret not having looked here into the PSA Forum before jumping into that auction.

I feel I should warn anyone bidding on his auctions. His name is claimed to be Ned Kerstetter and his claimed address is 151 Mt. Zion Rd. Carlisle, PA 17013. Guess I was fooled by the high number of feedbacks and such? I have little interest in PSA 7 quality cards which most appear to be. There maybe some 8's? But I'm not sure I want to open anymore until I file a claim with eBay. I'm sure that won't get me to far. May have to file legal action, but is that even worth the effort?

When I called him on it....he claimed I was just upset because I paid more for my box than the other boxes he sold? I could care less about the price .......I told him he misrepresented the material as unopened as the box and wax packs had clearly been tampered with.....how can he explain the loose packs and wax stains on a card that was not even exposed to the bottom of the wax pack nor even with the gum on the top? Of course he didn't address that in his reply! Clearly he is refusing to refund my money. So I'll have to decide what to do next?

For all the skeptics out there......Kudo's for you for holding off on any of this guys auctions!

earlycalguy · June 9, 2005 4:54PM

that is the address I mailed a card to him the other week. not sure of name as he used 'the computer barn' as the name. if you used paypal i would file the claim quickly. this will freeze his account.

MiniMaster · June 9, 2005 5:07PM

earlycalguy,

Unfortunately he did not except paypal. I paid via postal money order. Yup....I believe I've been had?

I can't get over how he can be a "power seller" on ebay?

brianwintersfan · June 9, 2005 6:11PM

<< I have little interest in PSA 7 quality cards which most appear to be. There maybe some 8's? >>

Well you realize that the cleanest of boxes doesn't guarantee you PSA 9's and 10's.
75's are a tough year no matter where you buy the box from.But there seems to be other evidence that shows your box is not what he said it was so it really doesn't matter.
Good luck in getting a refund.

jayhawke · June 9, 2005 8:03PM

MiniMaster,
If you don't get anywhere with him in the next day or two, I would leave him a neg. You need to alert other buyers that it is a scam.

SoFLPhillyFan · June 9, 2005 10:24PM

Mini, sorry to hear about your experience. Hope that it all works out for you.
What is the possibility that the seller is not aware that the packs were resealed?

One buyer of a basketball box left positive feedback yesterday.

What about his other product, like cases of sets, etc.?

RobBobGolf · June 9, 2005 10:39PM

Nedsk Wax Packs

Check out the backs of these packs, they look like they have been tampered with to me. Anyone else?

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