i'm in for a couple again just let me know where to send them fred
Fred
collecting RAW Topps baseball cards 1952 Highs to 1972. looking for collector grade (somewhere between psa 4-7 condition). let me know what you have, I'll take it, I want to finish sets, I must have something you can use for trade.
looking for Topps 71-72 hi's-62-53-54-55-59, I have these sets started
Ok, I've been running the numbers and while doing so, I received some great advice from WinPitcher. Why not just charge PSA's actual shipping rates? Our combined rate will be cheaper, so the difference will be spent in postage for me returning your cards to you. If there's any additional money left over, I will refund it. Here's the breakdown:
So, the cost will be $5 per card plus the actual shipping amount noted above. I think this is most fair for everyone involved.
I am stepping out for a little while, but when I return I will put together the instructions for everyone.
Thanks, Craig
edited to add: if you're sending 100+ cards, please PM me for your rate since that'll just be easier.
<< <i>I think you will lose alot of the small submissions doing that. >>
I disagree.
PSA's "bulk" services for a minimum of 10 cards is $10/card...plus the same shipping I'm charging here. If less than 10 cards are being submitted, you're looking at $15/card...plus the same shipping I'm charging here.
Also, as I stated above, if there is any overage on s&h charges, I will refund it. Every penny will be accounted for.
<< <i>I think you will lose alot of the small submissions doing that. >>
I disagree.
PSA's "bulk" services for a minimum of 10 cards is $10/card...plus the same shipping I'm charging here. If less than 10 cards are being submitted, you're looking at $15/card...plus the same shipping I'm charging here.
Also, as I stated above, if there is any overage on s&h charges, I will refund it. Every penny will be accounted for. >>
I think that it will make it harder for you to track, wouldn't it?
Edited to say: If 10 people each sent 10 $25 cards, there would be a hundred cards with a value of $2500 and shipping charges in the $40 range. But those 10 people will have paid $223.50 in shipping. Seems easy enough to refund the difference. But with some guys sending in 2 and others sending in 100, it would be difficult to figure out. On the surface, it's not as appealing to those planning to send in 2 or 3 cards, but if you can figure the refund, I guess it doesn't get anymore fair than that. PM me with the details.
I think craig and WinPitcher are both smarter than me, but I gotta agree with BigRedMachine. This is not my rodeo and I will participate either way, but it seems like a flat rate of $1 per card with a cap for x amount of cards and then the insurance amount option. As for return shipping just make a few options like bubble mailer for a few cards for x amount, flat rate box, or large box and then the insurance amount options. Seems like it would make it easier for you guys and everyone else. Like I said they are both smarter than me so I am on board regardless.
Craig, I have to agree with the others. I think the extra $1 per card was more appropraite. Our group sub we just received was only about $40 total for return shipping and cost me about $45 more to ship to PSA. That came out to an average of about $0.56 extra per card. If you count the return shipping back to the submitter, it averaged out to about $1 per card.
<< <i>I think craig and WinPitcher are both smarter than me, but I gotta agree with BigRedMachine. This is not my rodeo and I will participate either way, but it seems like a flat rate of $1 per card with a cap for x amount of cards and then the insurance amount option. As for return shipping just make a few options like bubble mailer for a few cards for x amount, flat rate box, or large box and then the insurance amount options. Seems like it would make it easier for you guys and everyone else. Like I said they are both smarter than me so I am on board regardless. >>
I agree with Allen... but I will also live with what ever you think works. I was planning on sending some junk I need for my registry so a $20 shipping fee sounds high.
<< <i>I think you will lose alot of the small submissions doing that. >>
I disagree.
PSA's "bulk" services for a minimum of 10 cards is $10/card...plus the same shipping I'm charging here. If less than 10 cards are being submitted, you're looking at $15/card...plus the same shipping I'm charging here.
Also, as I stated above, if there is any overage on s&h charges, I will refund it. Every penny will be accounted for. >>
I think that it will make it harder for you to track, wouldn't it?
Edited to say: If 10 people each sent 10 $25 cards, there would be a hundred cards with a value of $2500 and shipping charges in the $40 range. But those 10 people will have paid $223.50 in shipping. Seems easy enough to refund the difference. But with some guys sending in 2 and others sending in 100, it would be difficult to figure out. On the surface, it's not as appealing to those planning to send in 2 or 3 cards, but if you can figure the refund, I guess it doesn't get anymore fair than that. PM me with the details.
Shawn >>
Shawn, that's a very valid point. The amount I'm charging for shipping also includes the cost for me to return the cards to each person. So with 10 people and 10 cards each, I'm looking at 10 Priority Mail packages, insured for $250 each plus DC. I just weighed 10 PSA graded cards and it came out to 14.7oz. Adding in proper packaging, we'll be over a pound, so that's a 2 pound shipping rate. If I ship those cards to Los Angeles, it's $13.35 for postage. If I ship that same package to New York, it's $12.35. To Chicago it's $10.20.
10 packages at $10.20 is $102.00 on top of that $40.05 for a total of $142.05. 10 packages at $13.35 is $133.50 on top of the $40.05 for a total of $173.55.
As you can see, there are a number of variables that could happen.
I'll be tracking everything in Excel, so refunds will be fairly easy to track. Here's how I will do it:
Once everyone sends their cards, I will determine the total return shipping expense (shipping charges paid to PSA). I will also split the total cost to mail the package to PSA on a prorata basis so that if 1 person submits 10% of the cards, they pay 10% of the shipping cost to get the cards to PSA.
Once these costs are determined (on a person-by-person basis) I will subtract that amount from what each person paid toward shipping & insurance. I will then determine what it will cost me to return the cards to each person. Any payment overages will be returned to those people who have overpaid immediately. I'm not going to sit on everyone's money until the cards come back from PSA.
If it seems like a lot of work, it probably is...but I think it's the best possible way to most accurately determine everyone's fair share.
Also, to further my point, 10 cards valued at $25 each, submitted directly to PSA would cost $122.35. By participating in the group submission as I have set it up, it will cost $72.35 up front, and you'll probably end up getting a couple bucks back.
If I charge only $1/card, I will take a loss when factoring in the return shipping from me to the person...and that's not factoring in their part of the cost to ship the package to PSA or the return shipping & insurance from PSA to me.
<< <i>How many total cards are you looking for to submit?? + How long do you plan to offer this group submission?? I could/maybe be in for 200+ cards. >>
I expect to have everything finalized and shipped out the first week of March. That gives everyone enough time to get things together and send them to me. It also gives me time to prepare the forms and slap the stickers on the back of the CS1's. I would like to receive everyone's cards no later than March 2nd if at all possible.
Craig, I really think that the guy that sends in a small amount of cards really needs to check the figures to make sure the cards they sent are worth it. Under Bill's $1.00 extra a card I think you could be more relax on what cards you submit. My main concern would be if Bill's system did in effect work and he was not out any money. Judging from his e-mail he seems to think it worked. I always think that on these dealings the more simple you can keep it the better off it will be.
My personal opinion, the extra $1 works. If you know up front that you may be losing a few bucks, so be it. If nothing else, it was a learning experience for me. I enjoyed pregrading everyones cards and then learning what I may have missed.
<< <i>Craig, I really think that the guy that sends in a small amount of cards really needs to check the figures to make sure the cards they sent are worth it. Under Bill's $1.00 extra a card I think you could be more relax on what cards you submit. My main concern would be if Bill's system did in effect work and he was not out any money. Judging from his e-mail he seems to think it worked. I always think that on these dealings the more simple you can keep it the better off it will be. >>
I'm pretty sure, based on my calculations, that if Bill took it down to a person-by-person basis, the people who submitted more cards paid the difference for the money that was lost on the people who only submitted 10.
Personally, I submitted 55 cards in the last group sub. I know that my 55 cards didn't cost the $55 I paid in shipping/insurance no matter how you add it up. Again, it's no fault of Bill's here...I'm just trying to make it more fair for everyone who submits.
Someone who submits more cards shouldn't have to cover the shipping expenses of someone who submits fewer.
edited to reclarify: If someone who submitted 10 cards paid only $10 for shipping & insurance, either Bill lost money on that transaction or someone else footed the bill by overpaying. I believe I was one of the people to have overpaid, so I believe I have come up with a reasonable way to avoid people overpaying for this.
in the last sub-i think i submitted 3 cards for i think like $24 bucks, i think, bill would know better and for this one maybe 3 more but at 16.00 to ship + $5/card i'm over $10/ card. its probably not worth it for me since the cards aren't big value just stuff i want slabbed. not a problem though, maybe i'll get in next time. it is a great service you are doing, and who knows maybe i'll find a couple of cards that are worth the price. or i'll just get board and get in anyway, but i think some of the smaller subs 2-6 cards it won't work out for them. thanks fred
Fred
collecting RAW Topps baseball cards 1952 Highs to 1972. looking for collector grade (somewhere between psa 4-7 condition). let me know what you have, I'll take it, I want to finish sets, I must have something you can use for trade.
looking for Topps 71-72 hi's-62-53-54-55-59, I have these sets started
<< <i>Someone who submits more cards shouldn't have to cover the shipping expenses of someone who submits fewer >>
This I agree with. We had quite a few people send me 10 or less cards. There were a few that sent 2 cards. At $1/card, they only paid $2 to have the cards shipped to PSA and for me to ship it back to them. It costs about $3 just for me to ship 2 graded cards with delivery confirmation. That is not even counting the cost of shipping materials.
Would it be possible for PSA to come up with a number that we could all put on our orders that would qualify as a special? That way everyone could ship the cards directly to PSA and PSA could ship them back. This might take the burden off Craig and cut down on shipping cost. It could be valid for a week or so. Is there a reason it has to be a bulk order all together? Probably a stupid question, but really just thinking out loud.
<< <i>If you have 200 cards you donn't really need to piggy back into the sub. Sorry for the rant and I mean no ill will towards the poster that offered up 200 cards. >>
<< <i>in the last sub-i think i submitted 3 cards for i think like $24 bucks, i think, bill would know better and for this one maybe 3 more but at 16.00 to ship + $5/card i'm over $10/ card. its probably not worth it for me since the cards aren't big value just stuff i want slabbed. not a problem though, maybe i'll get in next time. it is a great service you are doing, and who knows maybe i'll find a couple of cards that are worth the price. or i'll just get board and get in anyway, but i think some of the smaller subs 2-6 cards it won't work out for them. thanks fred >>
Ok, here's a perfect example. If you submit 3 cards, Fred, you would pay $5/card ($15) plus $16.50. Your total, up front costs would be $31.50.
Now let's say we get 1,000 cards. 3 cards out of 1,000 is 0.3% of the total submission. Estimating the total shipping, insurance & handling rate that PSA would charge for the total submission to be $256.30 (1,000 cards at $0.21 per card, plus $46.30 per the chart), you would only be responsible for 0.3% of that amount (approximately $0.77). I would then determine your shipping cost for 3 graded cards to Carbondale, PA. A 6oz package from Milwaukee to Carbondale, insured for $50 with Delivery Confirmation would be $4.47.
I would then add together the $0.77 (your part of return shipping from PSA), plus the amount it will cost me to return them to you of $4.47 along with whatever 0.3% of what it will cost for me to ship and insure 1,000 cards to PSA (which will be no more than $0.77 for you) and you'd get a refund of $10.49. In the end, you will have paid $21.01 to get 3 cards graded and returned to you. That's $7 per card.
If you sent those same 3 cards to PSA directly, it would cost you $15/card for $45 plus $16.50 shipping...or $20.50 per card.
Fred is a good example of my last post. He sent 3 cards at $6/card. It probably cost me a little over $4 total to add those 3 cards to the sub and ship back to him. That $1 was absorbed by the few that subbed a high number of cards.
Just for the record, the only reason I cannot do these calculations up front and charge everyone only exactly what they owe is because I don't know the total number of cards being submitted, I don't know the total value of what is being submitted, and I don't have everyone's address to which I will be returning the cards (to determine return shipping costs). I need to know the first two so I can determine the total shipping, insurance and handling charges we will have to pay PSA. I also need to know the first two items so that I can determine everyone's portion owed for the total.
My best course of action is to charge a little more up front and then refund whatever overages people pay in. I cannot stress enough that these refunds will be made at approximately the same time the package is mailed off to PSA...most likely within 24 hours.
I would be all for charging actual cost back to the owner after the cards are graded. All you need is a scale and a zip code. You might be able to better determine the ins value and get the paypal money from the time the grades post and the cards are receiveed by group submiter.
<< <i>I would be all for charging actual cost back to the owner after the cards are graded. All you need is a scale and a zip code. You might be able to better determine the ins value and get the paypal money from the time the grades post and the cards are receiveed by group submiter.
Dave >>
Dave,
I have thought about that option as well, but there is a downside. If I don't charge for return shipping until after the grades pop, what would stop someone from seeing their grades, being disappointed and then not paying to get their cards returned? I don't want to get stuck with someone's 88 Topps commons that all come back 7's.
I guess the better answer is that for simplicity (if there is any) I would rather get one payment from everyone than try to track people down to give me money to ship them their cards. I should be able to determine the actual shipping cost once I know how many cards are in from each person and how much they've stated the value to be.
Just my opinion, but the $1 per card would work fine. If I sent in 40 and had to absorb a few bucks that would be fine. I would still be no more than $6 per card delivered. That's a good deal. If this is all stated up front this would work well. If someone submits 50 cards and pays $50, it's still all good. JMHO. I intend on sending about 10-20 once this all gets figured out.
<< <i>Just my opinion, but the $1 per card would work fine. If I sent in 40 and had to absorb a few bucks that would be fine. I would still be no more than $6 per card delivered. That's a good deal. If this is all stated up front this would work well. If someone submits 50 cards and pays $50, it's still all good. JMHO. I intend on sending about 10-20 once this all gets figured out. >>
That's what I said. Nobody listens to us good ole southern boys.
<< <i>Just my opinion, but the $1 per card would work fine. If I sent in 40 and had to absorb a few bucks that would be fine. I would still be no more than $6 per card delivered. That's a good deal. If this is all stated up front this would work well. If someone submits 50 cards and pays $50, it's still all good. JMHO. I intend on sending about 10-20 once this all gets figured out. >>
That's what I said. Nobody listens to us good ole southern boys.
hefewiezen is my favorite style of beer. An unfiltered wheat ale is a thing of beauty. Its next to a 18 year old single malt scotch over crushed ice, mmmmmmmm
<< <i>hefewiezen is my favorite style of beer. An unfiltered wheat ale is a thing of beauty. Its next to a 18 year old single malt scotch over crushed ice, mmmmmmmm >>
Watching that lemon dancing & darting around the glass, with the yeast slowly clouding-up the bright orange glow, and that sudsy, bubbly head on that tasty glass of wheat goodness!
Bob, it's not going to happen. Joe made it very clear to me that in order to get the FIVE DOLLAR rate, we would need to bump up the number to higher than what we submitted in the last group submission - which was 479 cards.
500 cards 5 or 6 times a year doesn't get us anything better than $5/card. That is already $2/card LESS than the stated rates!
From what I understand, we would need to commit to submitting about 2000 cards on a MONTHLY basis to qualify for anything lower than $5. I did not get this figure from Joe, it is a figure I've heard from multiple sources, however.
We're not at that level - not even close - so it's time for us to say THANK YOU JOE for giving us a deal as it stands and stop asking for more.
I worked at a restaurant in college that's called Copeland's. Its a cajun chain based out of N'awlins. Every summer we would have crawfish boils each month. Just seeing them made my mouth water
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So no near mint Clementes.
I just sent in 110 cards so I'll have to sit this one out.
Good luck
Steve
fred
collecting RAW Topps baseball cards 1952 Highs to 1972. looking for collector grade (somewhere between psa 4-7 condition). let me know what you have, I'll take it, I want to finish sets, I must have something you can use for trade.
looking for Topps 71-72 hi's-62-53-54-55-59, I have these sets started
<< <i>Can I submit my signed card for PSA/DNA as well in this group sub? >>
Sorry, this submission is for grading only. I can't help you on that one.
<< <i>I'll be in for a few.. Thanks Gumby.
It's cool if I pay you in Arby's Gift Certs. right? >>
All signs point to yes!
<< <i>
Gumbyfan have you dealt with a lot of board members on here?
John >>
Craig is one of the most trustworthy guys here. You have nothing to worry about.
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So, the cost will be $5 per card plus the actual shipping amount noted above. I think this is most fair for everyone involved.
I am stepping out for a little while, but when I return I will put together the instructions for everyone.
Thanks,
Craig
edited to add: if you're sending 100+ cards, please PM me for your rate since that'll just be easier.
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<< <i>I think you will lose alot of the small submissions doing that. >>
I disagree.
PSA's "bulk" services for a minimum of 10 cards is $10/card...plus the same shipping I'm charging here.
If less than 10 cards are being submitted, you're looking at $15/card...plus the same shipping I'm charging here.
Also, as I stated above, if there is any overage on s&h charges, I will refund it. Every penny will be accounted for.
<< <i>
<< <i>I think you will lose alot of the small submissions doing that. >>
I disagree.
PSA's "bulk" services for a minimum of 10 cards is $10/card...plus the same shipping I'm charging here.
If less than 10 cards are being submitted, you're looking at $15/card...plus the same shipping I'm charging here.
Also, as I stated above, if there is any overage on s&h charges, I will refund it. Every penny will be accounted for. >>
I think that it will make it harder for you to track, wouldn't it?
Edited to say: If 10 people each sent 10 $25 cards, there would be a hundred cards with a value of $2500 and shipping charges in the $40 range. But those 10 people will have paid $223.50 in shipping. Seems easy enough to refund the difference. But with some guys sending in 2 and others sending in 100, it would be difficult to figure out.
On the surface, it's not as appealing to those planning to send in 2 or 3 cards, but if you can figure the refund, I guess it doesn't get anymore fair than that.
PM me with the details.
Shawn
Hoarding silver and collecting history
T222's PSA 1 or better
<< <i>I think craig and WinPitcher are both smarter than me, but I gotta agree with BigRedMachine. This is not my rodeo and I will participate either way, but it seems like a flat rate of $1 per card with a cap for x amount of cards and then the insurance amount option. As for return shipping just make a few options like bubble mailer for a few cards for x amount, flat rate box, or large box and then the insurance amount options. Seems like it would make it easier for you guys and everyone else. Like I said they are both smarter than me so I am on board regardless. >>
I agree with Allen... but I will also live with what ever you think works. I was planning on sending some junk I need for my registry so a $20 shipping fee sounds high.
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<< <i>I think you will lose alot of the small submissions doing that. >>
I disagree.
PSA's "bulk" services for a minimum of 10 cards is $10/card...plus the same shipping I'm charging here.
If less than 10 cards are being submitted, you're looking at $15/card...plus the same shipping I'm charging here.
Also, as I stated above, if there is any overage on s&h charges, I will refund it. Every penny will be accounted for. >>
I think that it will make it harder for you to track, wouldn't it?
Edited to say: If 10 people each sent 10 $25 cards, there would be a hundred cards with a value of $2500 and shipping charges in the $40 range. But those 10 people will have paid $223.50 in shipping. Seems easy enough to refund the difference. But with some guys sending in 2 and others sending in 100, it would be difficult to figure out.
On the surface, it's not as appealing to those planning to send in 2 or 3 cards, but if you can figure the refund, I guess it doesn't get anymore fair than that.
PM me with the details.
Shawn >>
Shawn, that's a very valid point. The amount I'm charging for shipping also includes the cost for me to return the cards to each person. So with 10 people and 10 cards each, I'm looking at 10 Priority Mail packages, insured for $250 each plus DC. I just weighed 10 PSA graded cards and it came out to 14.7oz. Adding in proper packaging, we'll be over a pound, so that's a 2 pound shipping rate. If I ship those cards to Los Angeles, it's $13.35 for postage. If I ship that same package to New York, it's $12.35. To Chicago it's $10.20.
10 packages at $10.20 is $102.00 on top of that $40.05 for a total of $142.05.
10 packages at $13.35 is $133.50 on top of the $40.05 for a total of $173.55.
As you can see, there are a number of variables that could happen.
I'll be tracking everything in Excel, so refunds will be fairly easy to track. Here's how I will do it:
Once everyone sends their cards, I will determine the total return shipping expense (shipping charges paid to PSA). I will also split the total cost to mail the package to PSA on a prorata basis so that if 1 person submits 10% of the cards, they pay 10% of the shipping cost to get the cards to PSA.
Once these costs are determined (on a person-by-person basis) I will subtract that amount from what each person paid toward shipping & insurance. I will then determine what it will cost me to return the cards to each person. Any payment overages will be returned to those people who have overpaid immediately. I'm not going to sit on everyone's money until the cards come back from PSA.
If it seems like a lot of work, it probably is...but I think it's the best possible way to most accurately determine everyone's fair share.
If I charge only $1/card, I will take a loss when factoring in the return shipping from me to the person...and that's not factoring in their part of the cost to ship the package to PSA or the return shipping & insurance from PSA to me.
<< <i>How many total cards are you looking for to submit?? + How long do you plan to offer this group submission?? I could/maybe be in for 200+ cards. >>
I expect to have everything finalized and shipped out the first week of March. That gives everyone enough time to get things together and send them to me. It also gives me time to prepare the forms and slap the stickers on the back of the CS1's. I would like to receive everyone's cards no later than March 2nd if at all possible.
<< <i>I could/maybe be in for 200+ cards. >>
Do you think Joe would give us a $4 per card if we had a sub of 1000+ cards?
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<< <i>Craig, I really think that the guy that sends in a small amount of cards really needs to check the figures to make sure the cards they sent are worth it. Under Bill's $1.00 extra a card I think you could be more relax on what cards you submit. My main concern would be if Bill's system did in effect work and he was not out any money. Judging from his e-mail he seems to think it worked. I always think that on these dealings the more simple you can keep it the better off it will be. >>
I'm pretty sure, based on my calculations, that if Bill took it down to a person-by-person basis, the people who submitted more cards paid the difference for the money that was lost on the people who only submitted 10.
Personally, I submitted 55 cards in the last group sub. I know that my 55 cards didn't cost the $55 I paid in shipping/insurance no matter how you add it up. Again, it's no fault of Bill's here...I'm just trying to make it more fair for everyone who submits.
Someone who submits more cards shouldn't have to cover the shipping expenses of someone who submits fewer.
edited to reclarify: If someone who submitted 10 cards paid only $10 for shipping & insurance, either Bill lost money on that transaction or someone else footed the bill by overpaying. I believe I was one of the people to have overpaid, so I believe I have come up with a reasonable way to avoid people overpaying for this.
thanks
fred
collecting RAW Topps baseball cards 1952 Highs to 1972. looking for collector grade (somewhere between psa 4-7 condition). let me know what you have, I'll take it, I want to finish sets, I must have something you can use for trade.
looking for Topps 71-72 hi's-62-53-54-55-59, I have these sets started
<< <i>Someone who submits more cards shouldn't have to cover the shipping expenses of someone who submits fewer >>
This I agree with. We had quite a few people send me 10 or less cards. There were a few that sent 2 cards. At $1/card, they only paid $2 to have the cards shipped to PSA and for me to ship it back to them. It costs about $3 just for me to ship 2 graded cards with delivery confirmation. That is not even counting the cost of shipping materials.
T222's PSA 1 or better
1957 Topps 99% 7.40 GPA
Hank Aaron Basic PSA 7-8(75%)
<< <i>If you have 200 cards you donn't really need to piggy back into the sub. Sorry for the rant and I mean no ill will towards the poster that offered up 200 cards. >>
I concur.
<< <i>in the last sub-i think i submitted 3 cards for i think like $24 bucks, i think, bill would know better and for this one maybe 3 more but at 16.00 to ship + $5/card i'm over $10/ card. its probably not worth it for me since the cards aren't big value just stuff i want slabbed. not a problem though, maybe i'll get in next time. it is a great service you are doing, and who knows maybe i'll find a couple of cards that are worth the price. or i'll just get board and get in anyway, but i think some of the smaller subs 2-6 cards it won't work out for them.
thanks
fred >>
Ok, here's a perfect example. If you submit 3 cards, Fred, you would pay $5/card ($15) plus $16.50. Your total, up front costs would be $31.50.
Now let's say we get 1,000 cards. 3 cards out of 1,000 is 0.3% of the total submission. Estimating the total shipping, insurance & handling rate that PSA would charge for the total submission to be $256.30 (1,000 cards at $0.21 per card, plus $46.30 per the chart), you would only be responsible for 0.3% of that amount (approximately $0.77). I would then determine your shipping cost for 3 graded cards to Carbondale, PA. A 6oz package from Milwaukee to Carbondale, insured for $50 with Delivery Confirmation would be $4.47.
I would then add together the $0.77 (your part of return shipping from PSA), plus the amount it will cost me to return them to you of $4.47 along with whatever 0.3% of what it will cost for me to ship and insure 1,000 cards to PSA (which will be no more than $0.77 for you) and you'd get a refund of $10.49. In the end, you will have paid $21.01 to get 3 cards graded and returned to you. That's $7 per card.
If you sent those same 3 cards to PSA directly, it would cost you $15/card for $45 plus $16.50 shipping...or $20.50 per card.
My best course of action is to charge a little more up front and then refund whatever overages people pay in. I cannot stress enough that these refunds will be made at approximately the same time the package is mailed off to PSA...most likely within 24 hours.
Dave
1957 Topps 99% 7.40 GPA
Hank Aaron Basic PSA 7-8(75%)
<< <i>I would be all for charging actual cost back to the owner after the cards are graded. All you need is a scale and a zip code. You might be able to better determine the ins value and get the paypal money from the time the grades post and the cards are receiveed by group submiter.
Dave >>
Dave,
I have thought about that option as well, but there is a downside. If I don't charge for return shipping until after the grades pop, what would stop someone from seeing their grades, being disappointed and then not paying to get their cards returned? I don't want to get stuck with someone's 88 Topps commons that all come back 7's.
I guess the better answer is that for simplicity (if there is any) I would rather get one payment from everyone than try to track people down to give me money to ship them their cards. I should be able to determine the actual shipping cost once I know how many cards are in from each person and how much they've stated the value to be.
<< <i>I don't want to get stuck with someone's 88 Topps commons that all come back 7's. >>
Hey, they were 84 Topps not 88 Donruss. I got a 9 and a 10 on my two 88 Donruss cards.
<< <i>Just my opinion, but the $1 per card would work fine. If I sent in 40 and had to absorb a few bucks that would be fine. I would still be no more than $6 per card delivered. That's a good deal. If this is all stated up front this would work well. If someone submits 50 cards and pays $50, it's still all good. JMHO. I intend on sending about 10-20 once this all gets figured out. >>
That's what I said. Nobody listens to us good ole southern boys.
Crawfish, taters and beer.
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<< <i>I could/maybe be in for 200+ cards. >>
Do you think Joe would give us a $4 per card if we had a sub of 1000+ cards? >>
YES! I! DOOOOOOO!
four bucks! four bucks! four bucks!
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<< <i>Just my opinion, but the $1 per card would work fine. If I sent in 40 and had to absorb a few bucks that would be fine. I would still be no more than $6 per card delivered. That's a good deal. If this is all stated up front this would work well. If someone submits 50 cards and pays $50, it's still all good. JMHO. I intend on sending about 10-20 once this all gets figured out. >>
That's what I said. Nobody listens to us good ole southern boys.
Crawfish, taters and beer.
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Dave
1957 Topps 99% 7.40 GPA
Hank Aaron Basic PSA 7-8(75%)
<< <i>hefewiezen is my favorite style of beer. An unfiltered wheat ale is a thing of beauty. Its next to a 18 year old single malt scotch over crushed ice, mmmmmmmm >>
Watching that lemon dancing & darting around the glass, with the yeast slowly clouding-up the bright orange glow, and that sudsy, bubbly head on that tasty glass of wheat goodness!
Yeah its OK!
rd
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<< <i>YES! I! DOOOOOOO!
four bucks! four bucks! four bucks! >>
Bob, it's not going to happen. Joe made it very clear to me that in order to get the FIVE DOLLAR rate, we would need to bump up the number to higher than what we submitted in the last group submission - which was 479 cards.
500 cards 5 or 6 times a year doesn't get us anything better than $5/card. That is already $2/card LESS than the stated rates!
From what I understand, we would need to commit to submitting about 2000 cards on a MONTHLY basis to qualify for anything lower than $5. I did not get this figure from Joe, it is a figure I've heard from multiple sources, however.
We're not at that level - not even close - so it's time for us to say THANK YOU JOE for giving us a deal as it stands and stop asking for more.
CDsNuts, 1/9/15
<< <i>I worked at a restaurant in college that's called Copeland's. >>
We had a Copeland's here for a while. They closed. No one wanted to pay $40 for a steak, salad and glass of water.
Dave, crawfish are the greatest. Less than 1 calorie per tail unless you suck the heads. I am not a head sucker but thank God my wife is.
I would also like a Shiner Black Lager, and some crawfish.
Thanks.
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