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My Latest Purchase - GSA 1885-CC Morgan Dollar - Grade Opinions welcome

OneyOney Posts: 1,394 ✭✭✭✭
I purchased this coin Friday from a B&M store I do not frequently visit. Based on this coin I will be going there more often. The coin is still in the original GSA case with matching paperwork. The coin even looks better in hand. Very deep fields and minimal contact marks compared to most of the GSA's I have had in the past. Decision time: What do you think about the grade? Is it DMPL or not? Send it to PCGS so I can add to my registry or send it to NGC and keep in the GSA case? You don't see too many of these with this look still in GSA cases. Thanks for looking and your feedback.

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Brian

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  • TONEDDOLLARSTONEDDOLLARS Posts: 2,928 ✭✭✭✭
    It has to stay in the GSA holder. PL or DMPL, either way , it will be worth a hell
    of a lot more in the original holder.
  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I would recommend remaining in the GSA holder... that being said, I am not a registry participant - I know this is important to some people. However, I think it will have a higher value if kept in the original holder. Cheers, RickO
  • AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 24,946 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Too much cartwheel for DMPL. I'd certainly leave it in the GSA case. Don't mess with it. It's a 64PL in
    my opinion.

    Nice pick up and a very good date that is not cheap!

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  • DoubleEagle59DoubleEagle59 Posts: 8,382 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think at the very least it's an ms64 PL

    very nice looking coin and I agree that it should be kept it in its original holder
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  • GATGAT Posts: 3,146
    My 1885-CC Morgan will stay in it's GSA slab ungraded until I kick the bucket. I don't need anyone to confirm that it's a MS64.
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  • Cam40Cam40 Posts: 8,146
    4 shot 5 imo
    crummy pic btw
    must be better looking in hand
  • OneyOney Posts: 1,394 ✭✭✭✭
    Thanks to everyone for your comments. I thought the pic was a good one actually.......
    Brian
  • TONEDDOLLARSTONEDDOLLARS Posts: 2,928 ✭✭✭✭
    Crummy picture??????????????????????? you must be an amazing photographer to say that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


  • << <i>I thought the pic was a good one actually....... >>


    I think the pictures are very good.

    Can't tell if there was any sarcasm meant in his comment, though.
  • bidaskbidask Posts: 14,040 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Great findimage

    Minimum 65 PL

    Leave it in the GSA holder and let the other potential buyers minds wonder
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  • FatManFatMan Posts: 8,977
    65 PL shot DMPL

    Don't crack it for the registry. That would make me cry. My advice is get it graded at NGC, and then move your registry set over there.
  • ConnecticoinConnecticoin Posts: 13,113 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Beautiful coin!! Yes, keep it in the GSA case -- Have NGC grade it if you wish, but the coin looks like a gem to me with or without the NGC band!!
  • MadMartyMadMarty Posts: 16,697 ✭✭✭
    Very Nice coin... Now the question everyone is wondering... What did you pay for it?
    It is not exactly cheating, I prefer to consider it creative problem solving!!!

  • vplitevplite Posts: 1,385 ✭✭✭


    << <i>4 shot 5 imo
    crummy pic btw
    must be better looking in hand >>



    I suspect Cam40 is pulling someone's chain. Nice picture. Mouth watering.
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  • Nice coin. That is one of the less common GSA's and carries a premium in that plastic. Go to NGC and look at the top 3 or 4 sets and you will gain an greater appreciation for keeping them nice and tight in those GSA slabs.
  • Cam40Cam40 Posts: 8,146
    Sorry there Brian, all.
    Poor choice of words on my part to describe that stunner Morgan
    I know its a killer coin and could be a DMPL too if it has mirrors.

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  • bestclser1bestclser1 Posts: 5,566 ✭✭✭
    I agree with tonedollars and connecticoin 110%Nice rip.Great lookin 85CC.image
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  • MitchellMitchell Posts: 562 ✭✭✭✭
    DO NOT CRACK the coin out of the GSA case. It's worth a lot in the GSA case, especially if it's graded by NGC. You have a very high grade coin, minimum 65, shot 66.

    Like everyone else said, move the registry set over to NGC.

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  • Congrats on an awesome MS64 PL... just a wonderful coin and a sweet addition to your collection.
  • ElcontadorElcontador Posts: 7,700 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Oney, I have looked at quite a few MS 65 CC Morgans. They were all 82, 83, 84 & 85 CCs. Of all of these coins, imo, the 85 CC in MS 65 is consistently the ugliest coin of the bunch.

    That being said, I like your coin. The stuff going on behind Miss Liberty's mouth and on her chin look like toning spots, rather than the normal bag marks that are too frequently seen on these coins in MS 65.
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  • << <i>I purchased this coin Friday from a B&M store I do not frequently visit. Based on this coin I will be going there more often. The coin is still in the original GSA case with matching paperwork. The coin even looks better in hand. Very deep fields and minimal contact marks compared to most of the GSA's I have had in the past. Decision time: What do you think about the grade? Is it DMPL or not? Send it to PCGS so I can add to my registry or send it to NGC and keep in the GSA case? You don't see too many of these with this look still in GSA cases. Thanks for looking and your feedback. imageimage >>



    Definately keep it in the GSA plastic. I've got many that are graded and ungraded in GSA holders, they are worth a premium to a TPG coin.

    It's hard to tell from your pic....it's got a bluish cast and contrast is not there.... shows some scratchey things on reverse, and her forehead is 'blown out', but the face is clean, the feathers crisp....but, the R on dollar and the star next to it are mushy...maybe it's the photo.

    Love the strike on the lady and the eagle.....good hammer.
  • Beautiful coin, great cameo effect!! I thought your pictures were excellent.

    Do not, under any circumstances, remove the coin from the original GSA holder!!

    I would grade it MS64 DPL. NGC might think the cheek is clean enough for 65, but there is some chatter (obverse and reverse) in the fields that probably lowers the grade to 64. Whether PL, DPL, or neither is a little more tricky. I have sent coins in I thought were DPL, and came back nothing. Mirrors weren't reflective enough, not enough cameo, who knows.

    If the fields are not mirrored enough, NGC might not give you DPL. Your coin looks a little hazy in the fields. But I think the coin deserves it.

    Compared to this coin:

    MS65 PL Ebay

    Yours is a little less clean, thus my guess of ms64. But yours has more cameo, and thus DPL.

    Compared to this coin:

    MS63 DPL

    Your coin's fields are not quite as mirrored, but I think still deserve DPL.

    Good luck with the coin, and let us know how it grades, if you decide to grade it.
  • Steve27Steve27 Posts: 13,275 ✭✭✭
    Good shot at 65PL; send it to NGC.
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  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 23,884 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Well, I am in the 65DMPL camp- terrific coin that is better off staying in the GSA holder and if you feel it needs to be graded, NGC would likely make the most sense. While I appreciate Registry set issues, I think another 85-CC can be found already in a PCGS holder with alittle leg work at a decent show.

    In the long term, I think you will look back and be happier with the coin in the GSA holder because of its look...

    Congrats

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  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,632 ✭✭✭✭✭
    This coin would definitely look better in hand.









































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  • segojasegoja Posts: 6,141 ✭✭✭✭
    That coin is 65 PL or DMPL all day long.

    The baord consistently undergrades coins.
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  • jdimmickjdimmick Posts: 9,791 ✭✭✭✭✭
    This coin is smokin! extremely nice and youd be a fool to remove it. I feel a beter than good shot at 65 PL on submission to NGC in holder. Very nice coin !!

    JIm

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