<< <i>When I link a recent ebay sale of a $180 IHC in PCGS 64 red, and then post the question "whats my incentive to pay more than $200 for a like coin at a show", out come the claims that all ebay coins are drecks and bottom dwelling, low end for the grade, crap coins. >>
I just went through every page of this thread and did a search on the word "eBay". There is not a single post here including that word which makes the claim: "all ebay coins are drecks and bottom dwelling, low end for the grade, crap coins".
<< <i>"Ebay is not for everyone, and coin shows are not for everyone." >>
Ain't that the truth? >>
Its called inference. Does something need to be directly spelled out in exact verbiage for you to understand the underlying points? If so, then you may be correct. But when I discuss the fact that I have aquired about 30 slabbed type coins off ebay at or near sheet, invariably the dealers will band together to inform me that these aquisitions are most likely of the low end for the grade pieces.
I know what inference is. Are you inferring that "There are lots of crappy coins on eBay" means that all the coins on eBay are crappy? If so, your logic needs some work...
<< <i>But when I discuss the fact that I have aquired about 30 slabbed type coins off ebay at or near sheet, invariably the dealers will band together to inform me that these aquisitions are most likely of the low end for the grade pieces. >>
You do understand that "these aquisitions are most likely of the low end for the grade pieces" doesn't necessarily mean that the coins are low end pieces, right?
I went to a coin show a couple of weeks ago and spent $2 for two tokens struck on a screw press, which was more than I planned on spending. I like cars and go to car shows, and like coins and go to coin shows, there are always surprises at each.
<< <i>Coin collecting should be fun, not a for-profit endeavor. >>
It would be a coin dealers dream if all customers were rich, dumb, and happy, but it never has and never will be this way. There will always be investors, collector/speculators looking for a quick flip, part time dealers, cherrypickers, collectors wanting to break into dealing, and others who want to watch every dollar spent.
There are alway some good deals at coin shows, but generally not on PNG day for common coins.
Robert Scot: Engraving Liberty - biography of US Mint's first chief engraver
I know what inference is. Are you inferring that "There are lots of crappy coins on eBay" means that all the coins on eBay are crappy? If so, your logic needs some work...
<< <i>But when I discuss the fact that I have aquired about 30 slabbed type coins off ebay at or near sheet, invariably the dealers will band together to inform me that these aquisitions are most likely of the low end for the grade pieces. >>
You do understand that "these aquisitions are most likely of the low end for the grade pieces" doesn't necessarily mean that the coins are low end pieces, right? >>
In fact I understand exactly what that means. It means that the dealers on this forum are trying to justify their overinflated prices by insinuating that ebay coins are somehow subpar.
I know what inference is. Are you inferring that "There are lots of crappy coins on eBay" means that all the coins on eBay are crappy? If so, your logic needs some work...
<< <i>But when I discuss the fact that I have aquired about 30 slabbed type coins off ebay at or near sheet, invariably the dealers will band together to inform me that these aquisitions are most likely of the low end for the grade pieces. >>
You do understand that "these aquisitions are most likely of the low end for the grade pieces" doesn't necessarily mean that the coins are low end pieces, right? >>
In fact I understand exactly what that means. It means that the dealers on this forum are trying to justify their overinflated prices by insinuating that ebay coins are somehow subpar. >>
There are worse dealers out there than the ones on this forum.
<< <i>And with 99% of sellers happy to take returns, why not take a shot? nothing to lose except a possible trip to the post office right?
Return supplies: $3 Return gas: $4 Return postage: $7 Lost time to package and go to post office: $30
200 post thread complaining about nice looking $200 coin being priced $25 too high: Priceless! >>
Geezus TDN, could you be any more pompous? $30 for a 10 minute trip to the post office which is 6 blocks from my house? You really value your time, talk about overinflated pricing! I'll go back and forth to the post office ALL DAY LONG at $30 a pop. Seeing as how my vehicle gets 15 mpg, and gas here is currently $3.55/ gallon, and my trip is 12 blocks, or a mile and a half away, I estimate my fuel costs at about 35.5 cents. Return supplies of $3? You are seriously overpaying for your #0 bubble mailers, mine cost about 20 cents apiece in bulk. Maybe you buy expensive ink, and that accounts for the other $2.80? Return postage with insurance on a $200 item is about $5, so again, your numbers just do not add up. That makes my grand total $5.55 and a half cent (disregarding my time of 10 minutes invested, which cannot be valued because it is in the pursuit and a direct result of my HOBBY, and not a full time job as it may, or may not be for you).
Making TDN look like a complete exagerative clown? Priceless
<< <i>And with 99% of sellers happy to take returns, why not take a shot? nothing to lose except a possible trip to the post office right?
Return supplies: $3 Return gas: $4 Return postage: $7 Lost time to package and go to post office: $30
200 post thread complaining about nice looking $200 coin being priced $25 too high: Priceless! >>
Geezus TDN, could you be any more pompous? $30 for a 10 minute trip to the post office which is 6 blocks from my house? You really value your time, talk about overinflated pricing! I'll go back and forth to the post office ALL DAY LONG at $30 a pop. Seeing as how my vehicle gets 15 mpg, and gas here is currently $3.55/ gallon, and my trip is 12 blocks, or a mile and a half away, I estimate my fuel costs at about 35.5 cents. Return supplies of $3? You are seriously overpaying for your #0 bubble mailers, mine cost about 20 cents apiece in bulk. Maybe you buy expensive ink, and that accounts for the other $2.80? Return postage with insurance on a $200 item is about $5, so again, your numbers just do not add up. That makes my grand total $5.55 and a half cent (disregarding my time of 10 minutes invested, which cannot be valued because it is in the pursuit and a direct result of my HOBBY, and not a full time job as it may, or may not be for you).
Making TDN look like a complete exagerative clown? Priceless >>
<< <i>And with 99% of sellers happy to take returns, why not take a shot? nothing to lose except a possible trip to the post office right?
Return supplies: $3 Return gas: $4 Return postage: $7 Lost time to package and go to post office: $30
200 post thread complaining about nice looking $200 coin being priced $25 too high: Priceless! >>
Geezus TDN, could you be any more pompous? $30 for a 10 minute trip to the post office which is 6 blocks from my house? You really value your time, talk about overinflated pricing! I'll go back and forth to the post office ALL DAY LONG at $30 a pop. Seeing as how my vehicle gets 15 mpg, and gas here is currently $3.55/ gallon, and my trip is 12 blocks, or a mile and a half away, I estimate my fuel costs at about 35.5 cents. Return supplies of $3? You are seriously overpaying for your #0 bubble mailers, mine cost about 20 cents apiece in bulk. Maybe you buy expensive ink, and that accounts for the other $2.80? Return postage with insurance on a $200 item is about $5, so again, your numbers just do not add up. That makes my grand total $5.55 and a half cent (disregarding my time of 10 minutes invested, which cannot be valued because it is in the pursuit and a direct result of my HOBBY, and not a full time job as it may, or may not be for you).
Making TDN look like a complete exagerative clown? Priceless >>
I'm sorry your time is worth so little. >>
Hey TDN, we all cant be buyers of $1,000,000+ coins, right?
And with 99% of sellers happy to take returns, why not take a shot? nothing to lose except a possible trip to the post office right?
Return supplies: $3 Return gas: $4 Return postage: $7 Lost time to package and go to post office: $30
200 post thread complaining about nice looking $200 coin being priced $25 too high: Priceless!
It probably costs a few bucks just to run your car for the first mile (most wear and tear on a typical car's engine is upon initial cold start). I haven't paid for return supplies in over 15 years. All of mine come from incoming packages that are recycled. I'm loaded with them.
My real gripe with returns is whether I'll get my money back from the ebay seller, a neg, or lose both the coin and the cash. Even in the best of worlds, it could take a month to get your money back in your pocket to be able to use it again. I had one ebay seller refuse a written return privilege (Harbor Coin) and it took me a year to get that coin sold and get most of my money back. One forum member refused to take a return on an over-described problem coin and 4 months later I'm still am trying to get rid of that mistake. The system is far from risk-free with your so-called "happy go-lucky" sellers looking to take your returns back at no expense. I do very little with ebay these days, just not worth the aggravation and risk. Every transaction with a new seller is another "opportunity" to get burnt.
<< <i>Hmmm. Someone comes to a show with cash, a sheet, and an attitude, and leaves with same...and can't understand why.
It must be those $%^&#@ dealers...all 150 of them.
Just curious if OP works for free, since he places no value on his time (and evidently, no one else's). >>
HMMMM...a member with a year on here and just 22 posts, yet decides to slam me. Im thinking alt ID.
Edit: And FYI, it was PNG day, as stated in the OP which you didnt bother to read apparently. There was nowhere close to 150 dealers. Know what you are talking about before you make yourself to appear foolish.
<< <i>HMMMM...a member with a year on here and just 22 posts, yet decides to slam me. Im thinking alt ID. >>
...and you would be wrong. Sorry to disappoint...this is my one and only ID here. I lurk here a lot but seldom if ever post. I have business to do. Hard concept to grasp, I know.
Speaking of which...back to work. I have coins I need to overprice.
Oh...and the 150 number was used facetiously. Another hard concept to grasp I'm sure. Only one person here looks foolish, and it's not me.
<< <i>HMMMM...a member with a year on here and just 22 posts, yet decides to slam me. Im thinking alt ID. >>
...and you would be wrong. Sorry to disappoint...this is my one and only ID here. I lurk here a lot but seldom if ever post. I have business to do. Hard concept to grasp, I know.
Speaking of which...back to work. I have coins I need to overprice.
Oh...and the 150 number was used facetiously. Another hard concept to grasp I'm sure. Only one person here looks foolish, and it's not me. >>
Would that be gecko109???????:
Stop the madness and let him get back to playing in his sand box as we have given more then enough attention to his latest "cry" fest
Seems to me I've read the following somewhere on this forum... ...
I will paraphrase...
"Don't try to teach a gecko to sing...they'll never learn and you'll only end up with an angry gecko..."
Re: Slabbed coins - There are some coins that LIVE within clear plastic and wear their labels with pride... while there are others that HIDE behind scratched plastic and are simply dragged along by a label. Then there are those coins that simply hang out, naked and free
I've never bought a coin I was proud of for anywhere near "sheet".
"My friends who see my collection sometimes ask what something costs. I tell them and they are in awe at my stupidity." (Baccaruda, 12/03).I find it hard to believe that he (Trump) rushed to some hotel to meet girls of loose morals, although ours are undoubtedly the best in the world. (Putin 1/17) Gone but not forgotten. IGWT, Speedy, Bear, BigE, HokieFore, John Burns, Russ, TahoeDale, Dahlonega, Astrorat, Stewart Blay, Oldhoopster, Broadstruck, Ricko, Big Moose, Cardinal.
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<< <i>When I link a recent ebay sale of a $180 IHC in PCGS 64 red, and then post the question "whats my incentive to pay more than $200 for a like coin at a show", out come the claims that all ebay coins are drecks and bottom dwelling, low end for the grade, crap coins. >>
I just went through every page of this thread and did a search on the word "eBay". There is not a single post here including that word which makes the claim: "all ebay coins are drecks and bottom dwelling, low end for the grade, crap coins".
<< <i>"Ebay is not for everyone, and coin shows are not for everyone." >>
Ain't that the truth?
Its called inference. Does something need to be directly spelled out in exact verbiage for you to understand the underlying points? If so, then you may be correct. But when I discuss the fact that I have aquired about 30 slabbed type coins off ebay at or near sheet, invariably the dealers will band together to inform me that these aquisitions are most likely of the low end for the grade pieces.
<< <i>Its called inference. >>
I know what inference is. Are you inferring that "There are lots of crappy coins on eBay" means that all the coins on eBay are crappy? If so, your logic needs some work...
<< <i>But when I discuss the fact that I have aquired about 30 slabbed type coins off ebay at or near sheet, invariably the dealers will band together to inform me that these aquisitions are most likely of the low end for the grade pieces. >>
You do understand that "these aquisitions are most likely of the low end for the grade pieces" doesn't necessarily mean that the coins are low end pieces, right?
<< <i>Coin collecting should be fun, not a for-profit endeavor. >>
It would be a coin dealers dream if all customers were rich, dumb, and happy, but it never has and never will be this way. There will always be investors, collector/speculators looking for a quick flip, part time dealers, cherrypickers, collectors wanting to break into dealing, and others who want to watch every dollar spent.
There are alway some good deals at coin shows, but generally not on PNG day for common coins.
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<< <i>Its called inference. >>
I know what inference is. Are you inferring that "There are lots of crappy coins on eBay" means that all the coins on eBay are crappy? If so, your logic needs some work...
<< <i>But when I discuss the fact that I have aquired about 30 slabbed type coins off ebay at or near sheet, invariably the dealers will band together to inform me that these aquisitions are most likely of the low end for the grade pieces. >>
You do understand that "these aquisitions are most likely of the low end for the grade pieces" doesn't necessarily mean that the coins are low end pieces, right? >>
In fact I understand exactly what that means. It means that the dealers on this forum are trying to justify their overinflated prices by insinuating that ebay coins are somehow subpar.
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<< <i>Its called inference. >>
I know what inference is. Are you inferring that "There are lots of crappy coins on eBay" means that all the coins on eBay are crappy? If so, your logic needs some work...
<< <i>But when I discuss the fact that I have aquired about 30 slabbed type coins off ebay at or near sheet, invariably the dealers will band together to inform me that these aquisitions are most likely of the low end for the grade pieces. >>
You do understand that "these aquisitions are most likely of the low end for the grade pieces" doesn't necessarily mean that the coins are low end pieces, right? >>
In fact I understand exactly what that means. It means that the dealers on this forum are trying to justify their overinflated prices by insinuating that ebay coins are somehow subpar. >>
There are worse dealers out there than the ones on this forum.
Check out my current listings: https://ebay.com/sch/khunt/m.html?_ipg=200&_sop=12&_rdc=1
Return supplies: $3
Return gas: $4
Return postage: $7
Lost time to package and go to post office: $30
200 post thread complaining about nice looking $200 coin being priced $25 too high: Priceless!
Very profound. You are a brilliant thinker.
<< <i>And with 99% of sellers happy to take returns, why not take a shot? nothing to lose except a possible trip to the post office right?
Return supplies: $3
Return gas: $4
Return postage: $7
Lost time to package and go to post office: $30
200 post thread complaining about nice looking $200 coin being priced $25 too high: Priceless!
Geezus TDN, could you be any more pompous? $30 for a 10 minute trip to the post office which is 6 blocks from my house? You really value your time, talk about overinflated pricing!
Making TDN look like a complete exagerative clown? Priceless
<< <i>Just for the record... this was an EBay purchase with an Easy Button "BIN"!
ALL coin, NO juice!
1863 50C J-338 PR64 PCGS from the Garrett collection. >>
I'm sure this one is trackable, any idea how much it has old for previously at auction vs. what was paid on e-bay?
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<< <i>And with 99% of sellers happy to take returns, why not take a shot? nothing to lose except a possible trip to the post office right?
Return supplies: $3
Return gas: $4
Return postage: $7
Lost time to package and go to post office: $30
200 post thread complaining about nice looking $200 coin being priced $25 too high: Priceless!
Geezus TDN, could you be any more pompous? $30 for a 10 minute trip to the post office which is 6 blocks from my house? You really value your time, talk about overinflated pricing!
Making TDN look like a complete exagerative clown? Priceless
I'm sorry your time is worth so little.
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<< <i>And with 99% of sellers happy to take returns, why not take a shot? nothing to lose except a possible trip to the post office right?
Return supplies: $3
Return gas: $4
Return postage: $7
Lost time to package and go to post office: $30
200 post thread complaining about nice looking $200 coin being priced $25 too high: Priceless!
Geezus TDN, could you be any more pompous? $30 for a 10 minute trip to the post office which is 6 blocks from my house? You really value your time, talk about overinflated pricing!
Making TDN look like a complete exagerative clown? Priceless
I'm sorry your time is worth so little. >>
Hey TDN, we all cant be buyers of $1,000,000+ coins, right?
<< <i>"There are worse dealers out there than the ones on this forum. "
Very profound. You are a brilliant thinker. >>
Bless you, child.
Check out my current listings: https://ebay.com/sch/khunt/m.html?_ipg=200&_sop=12&_rdc=1
Return supplies: $3
Return gas: $4
Return postage: $7
Lost time to package and go to post office: $30
200 post thread complaining about nice looking $200 coin being priced $25 too high: Priceless!
It probably costs a few bucks just to run your car for the first mile (most wear and tear on a typical car's engine is upon initial cold start).
I haven't paid for return supplies in over 15 years. All of mine come from incoming packages that are recycled. I'm loaded with them.
My real gripe with returns is whether I'll get my money back from the ebay seller, a neg, or lose both the coin and the cash. Even in the best of worlds, it could take a month to get your money back in your pocket to be able to use it again. I had one ebay seller refuse a written return privilege (Harbor Coin) and it took me a year to get that coin sold and get most of my money back. One forum member refused to take a return on an over-described problem coin and 4 months later I'm still am trying to get rid of that mistake. The system is far from risk-free with your so-called "happy go-lucky" sellers looking to take your returns back at no expense. I do very little with ebay these days, just not worth the aggravation and risk. Every transaction with a new seller is another "opportunity" to get burnt.
roadrunner
It must be those $%^&#@ dealers...all 150 of them.
Just curious if OP works for free, since he places no value on his time (and evidently, no one else's).
RIP Mom- 1932-2012
<< <i>Hmmm. Someone comes to a show with cash, a sheet, and an attitude, and leaves with same...and can't understand why.
It must be those $%^&#@ dealers...all 150 of them.
Just curious if OP works for free, since he places no value on his time (and evidently, no one else's). >>
HMMMM...a member with a year on here and just 22 posts, yet decides to slam me. Im thinking alt ID.
Edit: And FYI, it was PNG day, as stated in the OP which you didnt bother to read apparently. There was nowhere close to 150 dealers. Know what you are talking about before you make yourself to appear foolish.
I knew it would happen.
<< <i>HMMMM...a member with a year on here and just 22 posts, yet decides to slam me. Im thinking alt ID.
...and you would be wrong. Sorry to disappoint...this is my one and only ID here. I lurk here a lot but seldom if ever post. I have business to do. Hard concept to grasp, I know.
Speaking of which...back to work. I have coins I need to overprice.
Oh...and the 150 number was used facetiously. Another hard concept to grasp I'm sure. Only one person here looks foolish, and it's not me.
RIP Mom- 1932-2012
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<< <i>HMMMM...a member with a year on here and just 22 posts, yet decides to slam me. Im thinking alt ID.
...and you would be wrong. Sorry to disappoint...this is my one and only ID here. I lurk here a lot but seldom if ever post. I have business to do. Hard concept to grasp, I know.
Speaking of which...back to work. I have coins I need to overprice.
Oh...and the 150 number was used facetiously. Another hard concept to grasp I'm sure. Only one person here looks foolish, and it's not me. >>
Would that be gecko109???????:
Stop the madness and let him get back to playing in his sand box as we have given more then enough attention to his latest "cry" fest
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Know what you are talking about before you make yourself to appear foolish.
It seems like you sometimes know what you are talking about, yet you still appear as such.
I will paraphrase...
"Don't try to teach a gecko to sing...they'll never learn and you'll only end up with an angry gecko..."
<< <i>Seems to me I've read the following somewhere on this forum...
I will paraphrase...
"Don't try to teach a gecko to sing...they'll never learn and you'll only end up with an angry gecko..." >>
"Inspiration exists, but it has to find you working" Pablo Picasso
<< <i>Seems to me I've read the following somewhere on this forum...
I will paraphrase...
"Don't try to teach a gecko to sing...they'll never learn and you'll only end up with an angry gecko..." >>
"It's like putting lipstick on a gecko."
Check out my current listings: https://ebay.com/sch/khunt/m.html?_ipg=200&_sop=12&_rdc=1