Hey Buff guys, what does this 1926-S grade? Update - Now graded.
Russ
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Update: Graded XF45.
This is from the Whitman set I've been working on:
I'm thinking F12, maybe F15. Am I close? Way off?
Russ, NCNE
This is from the Whitman set I've been working on:
I'm thinking F12, maybe F15. Am I close? Way off?
Russ, NCNE
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also, that S looks a little funny ... that's not an embossing job is it?
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Todd - BHNC #242
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I also think this would grade around a VF-35. Nice to see one with a full horn!!!
<< <i>also, that S looks a little funny ... that's not an embossing job is it? >>
Now that you mention it, it does look weird. In fact, looking at it under the loupe, I think it's fake!
Russ, NCNE
I think it was added to a 1926.
Russ, NCNE
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and may grade xf. the tops of liberty arent worn from wear
but struck on worn dies. as is for the other mushy elements
-Paul
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Todd - BHNC #242
what matter does it make about grade if its fake
Russ, NCNE
BTW - bummer Russ - I know you are one of the good guys on here - hope it works out for you one way or another.
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I 100% believe it to be FAKE ... although I could be wrong ... however it does not look like an embossed MM at all, yet rather an etching and tooling added MM
I hope some others will chime in. Look at the close-up ... I don't believe that type of S was used on any US coins that I can think of ...
on a side note ... I hope you didin't get hosed on it Russ
“We are only their care-takers,” he posed, “if we take good care of them, then centuries from now they may still be here … ”
Todd - BHNC #242
PCGS F15 example.
The mint mark and surrounding area on that coin looks an awful lot like my coin.
In any event, it looks like I picked it up for $35 on a bid board about 2 1/2 years ago so if it's fake, the hosing isn't too bad.
Russ, NCNE
Russ, NCNE
Embossed mint mark
<< <i>Should grade VF30. Genuine >>
Quick, sell it to Frank.
Sean Reynolds
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Next building on Chris's theme, I don't think the 26-Ps are known for worn dies that your coin exhibits. If it was an added MM to a 26-P I would think the coin wouldn't exhibit the type of die wear your coin does. Likewise I don't think Liberty would be worn away as it given the deails else where on the coin - another sign of late die state. Now, I can't swear to be an expert to added MMs, thus why I flee to the TPGs for the better dates for authentication purposes. I agree the the close up gives reason for pause, with the action on either side of the MM. That said, if the rim looks okay, coupled with the worn dies know in the 26 D&Ss, perhaps your coin is okay.
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<< <i>I don't think the 26-Ps are known for worn dies that your coin exhibits. If it was an added MM to a 26-P I would think the coin wouldn't exhibit the type of die wear your coin does. Likewise I don't think Liberty would be worn away as it given the deails else where on the coin - another sign of late die state. >>
This is essentially the same thing noted by the forum member who PMed me the link to the Heritage auction. I should note that this particular forum member is well known for his numismatic expertise. In fact, he was one of the winners in the PCGS grading contest.
This turned out to be a very fun thread!
Russ, NCNE
I'm one of those "self-made" buff experts. IMHO, this coin is a genuine 26-S. The 26P's just weren't struck like this. Grade? F15+.
Very interesting thread indeed --- it appears the buff experts to date are leaning genuine.
I like it.
Garrow
<< <i>I grade your Buff a solid XF. >>
There's a rather ginormous value jump in XF, so I'm inclined to think that since I picked it up cheap off a bid board there's no way in hell.
Russ, NCNE
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<< <i>This is a beginner's question, but how can one tell if an Indian Head nickel's date has been acid-treated? Does it impart a distinctive color to the area? >>
Yes, it does. It also makes the area look etched.
Russ, NCNE
Look at the coins in this set:
Russ, NCNE
<< <i>it seems to be a late die state and likely worth submitting as the VF price of a 1926-s is significantly higher than F15. Good luck with the submission Russ >>
I actually wasn't planning to submit it, but maybe I will and just get a lower graded one for my album.
Russ, NCNE
My humble opinion is that the mm was carved out of the field.
<< <i>Here are three different '26 s.
My humble opinion is that the mm was carved out of the field. >>
No way has the MM been carved out of the field. This exact type of die erosion is very commonly seen on this issue. The 26-D's also show similar die erosion on/around the mint mark.
Oh, and I agree with Garrow; the coin looks XF-40. This date/mm usually looks much worse than many of the other dates in the series so TPG's usually give it a market grade.