2007 Allen and Ginter

Thanks for the welcome, Jim!

Oh, and as per our conversation about the blacks existing in both #'d and nno version for the same guy... I spoke to the gentleman today who had a list marked off as him having a # and NNO version of 5 different cards. He told me that he made a mistake and he actually does NOT have both versions of the same guy on any of the 5, thus, it does appear that they do not exist in both forms for the same player.

Bill

Speaking of the '06 set. I would like to aquire one in the future. Can anyone tell me what they have been going for?

Chris

<< <i>Snakes are roughly $20 give or take a couple bucks.... expect to have to trade lopsided though, since they fall 1-per-case. For comparison, flags and common A&G or black backs will get you $1-$2 in value. Emperors are about twice that.

Supplies of snakes on eBay are drying up, it seems to me. I got my first snake off of there at the end of August for about 12 bucks. Just spent $19 to get the last one I needed, a black mamba. I'm glad the Thomas bazooka back I sold more than covered my remaining snake purchases. Still not sure whether snakes are under or over-valued... >>



Thanks mosaic. All right guys. The snake is officially on the trading block. Feel free to make me an offer.

Chris

Kurt - The base size card, or a mini?

Did you not see the "or best offer" sign? lol I'll take $15 as a best offer, im just giving someone the opportunity to offer more.

Guess I will jump on the eBay Couture bandwagon too. I could use some funds to feed my A&G habit anyway.

Post your list and let us know what you have to trade. I am still looking for quite a bit myself. Welcome!

Chris

I just listed my Laila Ali Autograph on ebay and it lasted 32 mintues at a buy it now of $120. Not too shabby.

gujai

You need to open your PM - seems like you have a lot less options than most. Where's your light bulb, glasses and lock? Hard to make deals through email and CU has an excellent PM system.

Yeah, I see them now - message so long that my screen only shows the arrowed paper and open envelope. PM will be on way gujai - don't do any deals before you check out my offer because today only I will throw in a kitten on every deal made. Being from Virginia, after M Vick episode shouldn't have put it that way. Way OT, but has it made national news that Vick's dog investigation has led to a hit style murder investigation?

<< <i>Just a side note about this kind of crap, you can see the fingernail marks on the top left of the pack he's offering!!!!!!!!!

A Hole >>

Wow, and he has 20 of them... wonder if he bought a retail case and cherry picked the whole thing.

OK, so here's my ethical dilemma.

Um, Wow

I don't think I was shy announcing that I purchased one of these originals. The link is some serious. I bought mine for over a third less than this. Basically, I gave the intermediary a price that I THOUGHT was about $50-$75 under market rate. The seller said fine and that was that. I certainly hadn't thought about selling, but this does make me pause. I'm afraid I would be in deep poo (although the seller might never know) if I low-balled somebody this bad (even though I don't know the original owner).

Thoughts?

Kurt

Willing seller and willing buyer. What's the problem? Must say that is a pretty neat looking hobo card you got.

I fail to see how anyone can lowball someone on a card like these 1/1 sketches. The market is what it is for each player and the selling price differentials are going to be drastic. The Ibanez buyer might not even be a baseball fan, but rather a collector of sports art or art in more general. Who knows. I don't know what you paid for the Edmods, Kurt, but my immediate guess would besomewhere around $250-300 (how close am I out of curiosity? ).

If you were happy with the price at the time, great, and if you got it with a B/O, then the seller probably wasn't getting any offers that were better than yours anyway.

I *THINK* Reyes sold for $250 and a week later, the buyer had it listed as his own with a $1,000 BIN/BO, so such is life. I don't know what he actually ended up getting for it though.

I also know that last year, I personally pulled the Vernon Wells Sketch Card from a Ted Williams Rip Card and thought it was gonna sell for about what the Ibanez did, but it ended for something like $341 at auction on eBay. The buyer was a sports art collector and didn't even really know who Vernon Wells was, but just wanted the piece for her art collection. Funny.

Anyway, if you want to move the Edmonds, that your business and you shouldn't feel guilty or bad about it at all.

As for the cards, I think they are aweful looking for the most part. There are a couple that look decent, but the sketches overall are pretty darn bad in my book!

Bill

<< <i>Bill: My guess on the price of the Edmonds hobo card is $150 with a lowball of $50-$75. Less than a third of the price of the Ibanez card which went for $504.99.

Kurt: The price you got the card for was not the highest you would have gone on the card was it? In most of my negotiations for higher priced items, I start out lower than what I'm willing to pay and the seller starts out higher than what he'll take. In the rare instances when a seller takes my lowball offer, the seller being a poor negotiator doesn't make me feel bad or like I've cheated him. I might shake my head in amazement though. You got the card fairly and anything you do with the card now is your business and has nothing to do with any prior negotiations. >>



I would gladly pay $150 for the Edmonds card. I know it's ugly but that seems like a fairly low price for a hand drawn 1/1. Maybe I'm missing something but I think it would be worth more than that. Of course I am a Cardinals fan (I don't like Edmonds all that much though) and may be a little bit biased.

Chris

I think Kurt said a third "less", not a third "of" the Ibanez so I'm guessing around $300 is accurate. Either way it's his card now so he should do what he wants, which is what it looks like we all agree on. Go ahead and sell that sucker.

So, any guesses as to why one guy is buying up Couture commons?

My theory is he's a dealer that has a signing coming up soon. Buying up cards at 10-20 bucks a pop ain't nothin if you can just as easily triple or quadruple your money with them...

Or maybe he's a friend of Couture's, or Couture himself, trying to corner the market. If so, he's done a great job. He's cleaned out the Beckett Marketplace and paid for our dinners this weekend.

Is there anyone else still trading? If you are still looking for cards can you please update your trade lists. I would really like to try to help you guys (and try to finish my own set) but am not sure if anyone is still trading. This is my updated list:

What I Need:
Regular size base cards: 20, 221, (303)
Emperors: E1, E4, E5, E7
Flags (I need a lot): Australia, Austria, Belgium, Bulgaria, China, Columbi, Costa Rica, Denmark, Egypt, Germany, Greece, Greenland, Iceland, Indonesia, Italy, Kenya, Mexico, Morocco, Netherlands, Nigeria, Norway, Panama, Philippines, Portugal, Puerto Rico, Russian Federation, Spain, United Arab Emirates, USA
National Pride: NP2, NP3, NP5-10

What I Have to Trade:
Base and Perez: a lot
Regular minis: 17, 38, 41, 84, 108, 133, 145, 153, 174, 195, 201, 211, 235, 237, 245, 248, 253, (263), 271, (301), 312, (318), (348)
A&G minis:4, (43), 59, 64, 72, 85, 90, 93, 116, 131, 151, 171, 199, 257, 346
Black minis w/#: 21, 81, 92, 225, 230
Black minis No #: Carlos Lee (152 SP), Bobby Abreu (275)
ARod: 252(x2), 254, 272
Flag: Switzerland
Relics: Curt Schilling, Stephen Drew, Rich Harden, Corey Patterson (Bat)
Auto: Howie Kendrick

Chris

But the Hall card is one of the SP no number cards. Pulled at a rate of 1:130 packs, so not an easy pull at all.