1985 Topps Football Thread

ArnyVee · January 29, 2006 11:24AM

14 wins tonight added to my set push me to 13th overall!

sixdart · January 29, 2006 4:09PM

There were some strong prices this evening. I see there is a new registry entry as well - you were already bumped? Also, Frank won most of the low pops.

Mike cards are usually nicer than 4SC and DSL, so you should be pleased with them.

ArnyVee · January 30, 2006 12:23AM

Bumped already!? LOL

Actually, many folks were bumped with the debut of the Football Freaks set! Wow....all 9s (including the only Walter Abercrombie 9 with none higher) and a couple of 10s mixed in there! Nice job!

Stingray · January 30, 2006 12:27AM

Who is going to buy that Jack Lambert PSA 10?

Stingray

sixdart · January 30, 2006 12:48AM

Most of the key entries own a copy of the Lambert ... pop 6 or 7, however it is a HOF PSA 10.

The person who won the ABERCROMBIE PSA 9 1/1 from 4SC was EBAY memeber 49Robinhood (no longer registered for nearly 6 months?). He (Frank S. in FL) was very agressive with this set and then disappeared. In fact he beat me out on this card with a $50+ bid. Unless he sold the set privately, it should be him. He's also a big Dolphin fan.

thefootballcardstore · January 30, 2006 3:21AM

Yes, who will buy that Lambert???

Free shipping to anyone from the board, just mention it.

ArnyVee · January 30, 2006 4:52AM

If I wasn't involved in so many sets and being on a budget, I would seriously think of picking up the Lambert. I keep eyeing that thing and just keep clicking that "X" at the top right corner of the screen so that I don't get myself into any more hot water!

Sheesh....between my big wins for my low pop '72 baseball cards, my '57s that I'm winning and the '85 Topps Football that I've been picking up....I can't keep pushing myself with spending more. Now, I have to start selling more of my 'other' stuff again!

ArnyVee · February 5, 2006 7:28AM

Anyone else have issues with most of the Bills, Colts & Oiler players having diamond cuts? I've been looking at quite a few raw cards and if the corners are good, then I get diamonds. Sheesh.

daneyb · February 5, 2006 12:25PM

<< <i>i just picked up a wax box from BBCE. i'll try to post some scans sunday night of the bust. >>

So who is BBCE??

ArnyVee · February 5, 2006 12:35PM

Baseball Card Exchange....

Link Here

ldferg · February 5, 2006 12:35PM

daneyb,
Steve Hart - Baseball Card Exchange - BBCE

ArnyVee · February 12, 2006 11:51PM

Picked up about another dozen or so to add to my set in the last few days. So, when I get 'em, I'll be addin' 'em!

This is really a beautiful set to look at. Horizontal design and tough borders just make you appreciate these things in PSA 9 even more!

ArnyVee · March 4, 2006 9:58PM

I've added a few more and moved up to the number 11th spot!

sixdart · March 5, 2006 3:08AM

The competition is heating up on this set Arny! You've done well for just 2 months time - starting fom scratch!

I see that FranK S. is back bidding aggressively (playmakers305 = Football Freak) ... he likes those low pop singles!

sixdart · March 5, 2006 3:11AM

The only person with recent success in grading '85s is Mike King (metalmike20). He did quite well with his last EBAY lots - as a reward!

Fabfrank · March 5, 2006 4:09AM

My last submission was a huge disappointment. These were from racks and should have been at least all 9's, instead mostly 8's and no 10's. Here are the grades:
1 31433313 1985 TOPPS 1 MARK CLAYTON RECORD BREAKER 8
2 31433314 1985 TOPPS 3 CHARLIE JOINER RECORD BREAKER 8
3 31433315 1985 TOPPS 9 SUPER BOWL XIX 49ERS VS. DOLPHINS 8
4 31433316 1985 TOPPS 10 ATLANTA FALCONS GERALD RIGGS 8
5 31433317 1985 TOPPS 12 STACEY BAILEY N/A 8
6 31433318 1985 TOPPS 13 STEVE BARTKOWSKI N/A 8
7 31433319 1985 TOPPS 14 RICK BRYAN N/A 9
8 31433320 1985 TOPPS 30 DAN HAMPTON ALL PRO 7
9 31433321 1985 TOPPS 34 MIKE SINGLETARY N/A 8
10 31433322 1985 TOPPS 40 TONY DORSETT N/A 8
11 31433323 1985 TOPPS 41 MICHAEL DOWNS N/A 8
12 31433324 1985 TOPPS 45 JIM JEFFCOAT N/A 7
13 31433325 1985 TOPPS 46 ED "TOO TALL" JONES N/A 8
14 31433326 1985 TOPPS 77 LOS ANGELES RAMS ERIC DICKERSON 9
15 31433327 1985 TOPPS 78 NOLAN CROMWELL N/A 9
16 31433328 1985 TOPPS 93 TOMMY HANNON N/A 7
17 31433329 1985 TOPPS 99 SAMMY WHITE N/A 8
18 31433330 1985 TOPPS 104 HOKIE GAJAN N/A 8
19 31433331 1985 TOPPS 106 RICKEY JACKSON N/A 8
20 31433332 1985 TOPPS 120 JOE MORRIS N/A 8
21 31433333 1985 TOPPS 122 JEFF RUTLEDGE N/A 8
22 31433334 1985 TOPPS 129 WES HOPKINS N/A 8
23 31433335 1985 TOPPS 141 CURTIS GREER N/A 8
24 31433336 1985 TOPPS 148 SAN FRANCISCO 49ers JOE MONTANA 9
25 31433337 1985 TOPPS 360 MIKE MERRIWEATHER N/A 8
26 31433338 1985 TOPPS 307 JIMMY CEFALO N/A 8
27 31433339 1985 TOPPS 314 DAN MARINO ALL PRO 8
28 31433340 1985 TOPPS 316 ED NEWMAN N/A 9
29 31433341 1985 TOPPS 323 TONY EASON N/A 8
30 31433342 1985 TOPPS 321 RAYMOND CLAYBORN N/A 8
31 31433343 1985 TOPPS 333 MOSI TATUPU N/A 8
32 31433344 1985 TOPPS 336 RUSSELL CARTER N/A 8
33 31433345 1985 TOPPS 339 BOBBY HUMPHERY N/A 9
34 31433346 1985 TOPPS 341 JOE KLECKO N/A 8
35 31433347 1985 TOPPS 348 PAT RYAN N/A 8
36 31433348 1985 TOPPS 351 PITTSBURGH STEELERS MARK MALONE 8
37 31433349 1985 TOPPS 360 MIKE MERRIWEATHER N/A 9
38 31433350 1985 TOPPS 369 GILL BYRD N/A 8
39 31433351 1985 TOPPS 372 DAN FOUTS N/A 8
40 31433352 1985 TOPPS 389 STEVE LARGENT N/A 8
41 31433353 1985 TOPPS 395 CHECKLIST 133-264 N/A 8
42 31433354 1995 SP 6 JOEY GALLOWAY FOIL 8
42 31433355 1995 SP 6 JOEY GALLOWAY FOIL 8
43 31433356 1995 SP 7 KEVIN CARTER FOIL 9
44 31433357 1995 SP 9 KYLE BRADY FOIL 8
45 31433358 1995 SP 11 TYRONE POOLE FOIL 8
46 31433359 1995 SP 16 TAMARICK VANOVER FOIL 8
46 31433360 1995 SP 16 TAMARICK VANOVER FOIL 9
47 31433361 1995 SP 19 TYRONE WHEATLEY FOIL 8
48 31433362 1995 SP 20 FRANK SANDERS FOIL 9
49 31433363 1995 SP 21 DEVIN BUSH N/A 9
50 31433364 1995 SP 27 MARK CARRIER N/A 9
51 31433365 1995 SP 28 PETE METZELAARS N/A 9
52 31433366 1995 SP 38 MARK CARRIER N/A 5
53 31433367 1995 SP 41 CHARLES HALEY N/A 8
54 31433368 1995 SP 48 JOHNNIE MORTON N/A 9
55 31433369 1995 SP 54 MARK INGRAM N/A 8
56 31433370 1995 SP 55 ROBERT BROOKS N/A 9
57 31433371 1995 SP 60 ROMAN PHIFER N/A 9
58 31433372 1995 SP 64 CRIS CARTER N/A 9
59 31433373 1995 SP 65 JAKE REED N/A 9
60 31433374 1995 SP 66 ROBERT SMITH N/A 9
61 31433375 1995 SP 68 WARREN MOON N/A 9
62 31433376 1995 SP 69 RAY ZELLARS N/A 8
63 31433377 1995 SP 69 RAY ZELLARS N/A 9
64 31433378 1995 SP 70 JIM EVERETT N/A 9
65 31433379 1995 SP 74 MARIO BATES N/A 8
66 31433380 1985 TOPPS 150 DWIGHT CLARK N/A 8
67 31433381 1985 TOPPS 157 JOE MONTANA N/A 8
68 31433382 1985 TOPPS 163 WENDELL TYLER N/A 8
69 31433383 1985 TOPPS 181 DARRELL GREEN N/A 8
70 31433384 1985 TOPPS 185 ART MONK ALL PRO 8
71 31433385 1985 TOPPS 186 MARK MOSELEY N/A 8
72 31433386 1985 TOPPS 194 RUSHING LEADERS E.JACKSON/E.DICKERSON 8
73 31433387 1985 TOPPS 198 BUFFALO BILLS TEAM GREG BELL 8
74 31433388 1985 TOPPS 200 PRESTON DENNARD N/A 9
75 31433389 1985 TOPPS 200 PRESTON DENNARD N/A 8
76 31433390 1985 TOPPS 203 STEVE FREEMAN N/A 8
77 31433391 1985 TOPPS 206 FRED SMERLAS N/A 8
78 31433392 1985 TOPPS 210 KEN ANDERSON N/A 8
79 31433393 1985 TOPPS 212 LOUIS BREEDEN N/A 9
80 31433394 1985 TOPPS 220 REGGIE WILLIAMS N/A 8
81 31433395 1985 TOPPS 220 REGGIE WILLIAMS N/A 8
82 31433396 1985 TOPPS 221 CLEVELAND BROWNS BOYCE GREEN 9
83 31433397 1985 TOPPS 224 REGGIE CAMP N/A 8
84 31433398 1985 TOPPS 230 CLAY MATTHEWS N/A 8
85 31433399 1985 TOPPS 232 OZZIE NEWSOME ALL PRO 9
86 31433400 1985 TOPPS 233 MIKE PRUITT N/A 8
87 31433401 1985 TOPPS 251 WARREN MOON N/A 8
88 31433402 1985 TOPPS 253 MIKE MUNCHAK N/A 8
89 31433403 1985 TOPPS 253 MIKE MUNCHAK N/A 8
90 31433404 1985 TOPPS 258 INDIANAPOLIS COLTS ART SCHLICHTER 8
91 31433405 1985 TOPPS 259 RAYMOND BUTLER N/A 8
92 31433406 1985 TOPPS 266 ART SCHLICHTER N/A 7
93 31433407 1985 TOPPS 284 CHRIS BAHR N/A 9
94 31433408 1985 TOPPS 286 CLIFF BRANCH N/A 8

A few went into my set registry. The rest will be offered for sale.

ArnyVee · March 5, 2006 9:22AM

Frank, sorry about the grades. But, are any of these 9s available? I'd be interested in a few.

Fabfrank · March 5, 2006 9:55AM

Yes, most are available. Email or PM the ones you want and I'll give you a price.

sixdart · March 5, 2006 10:08AM

Very disappointing to say the least Frank. Especially for the price of rack pack boxes.

With your experience, what to do you attribute the low grades to? Personally I think PSA has been very strict on this cards lately.

Fabfrank · March 5, 2006 10:24AM

With your experience, what to do you attribute the low grades to? Personally I think PSA has been very strict on this cards lately.

First, I only opened about 5 rack packs and some loose cellos. I had bought a wax box from Art Miller and he had kindly included these packs in the deal.
These cards had much better gloss than my previous wax submission. I actually felt that many of the 9's were borderline 10's. That 8's shocked me in that on any other day most would have been 9's.
To answer your question, Yes. I feel PSA has been very strict on these and most black bordered issues.

SKINSFAN · March 5, 2006 1:13PM

Frank i am sorry to see your grades were so low .
I sent in about 10 cards at least 2 years ago from 4 or 5 racks i busted back then before the set was really being collected by anyone and the grades were horrid .If i recall it was 4 nines and 6 eights that was enough for me to see that i did not want to mess with them as psa seems to have some crazy standards on them.
Can you imagine if those were 62,s you sent looking that nice i bet you would have got all nines and tens

ArnyVee · March 5, 2006 10:11PM

Frank, PM sent.

sixdart · March 6, 2006 11:32AM

... that was enough for me to see that i did not want to mess with them as psa seems to have some crazy standards on them. ...

I thought I had it figured out, but in the last 3-4 months - all bets are off. Even with the $5 Registry Specials, there was little population movement with PSA 10s or low pop PSA 9s.

The expense of unopened doesn't justify submitting once you get around 60% of this set. The same high-pop mint singles keep appearing. I would love to see uncut sheets and see where some of these cards are positioned.

ArnyVee · March 20, 2006 11:53PM

With my latest purchase, I'm now knocking on #9!

I really have been enjoying this set.

Fabfrank · March 21, 2006 12:42AM

With my latest purchase, I'm now knocking on #9!

Good news Arny. BTW, did you get my last package?

ArnyVee · March 21, 2006 12:47AM

I'm almost sure that I already did. I'll check on it when I get home.

I hope that someone sends in a large submission soon so that I can get another lot of '85s!

ldferg · March 21, 2006 7:09AM

i've got a wax box on the way. hope to have it by the end of the week. fingers are crossed.

ArnyVee · March 27, 2006 12:10AM

Nice bids on the Eric Dickerson PSA 10....ended at $355.01 with the "Museum" taking it from SixDart.

Eric Dickerson PSA 10

Fabfrank · March 27, 2006 12:25AM

I thought $150-$200 would have won that card. Guess we have to wait for the next one.

ldferg · March 27, 2006 4:22AM

purchased a rack pack and wax box. rack pack yielded nothing gradeable. this was not the grocery rack's either. normally the grocery racks are worse than regular from what i've opened. opened one wax pack this a.m. before work. pulled a marino, prolly an 8, nothing higher gradewise. hope the rest of the box is better. will go thru more tonite or tomorrow.

sixdart · March 27, 2006 11:35AM

I thought $150-$200 would have won that card. Guess we have to wait for the next one.

- FabFrank

I did to ... the SMR as $175. I really expected Jeremy (a.k.a. The Football Card Store) to be bidding on MOSH's behalf. If it wasn't for my bid, then it would have ended under $150. Sometimes it's better to lose a card ... lol?! I did see him (MOSH) bid prior to my bid, so I could have backed off ... costing the seller $.

The two cards that I compared to this one were the Marcus Allen & Mark Clayton PSA 10s. They both sold for around $250 as population 1/1s. The Clayton RC remains a 1/1 and the Allen a 1/3, so you never know? MOSH purchased the Clayton RC with a 4SC buy-it-now option a while back. The last couple of Henry Ellard PSA 10 RCs and the Irving Fryar PSA RC ended around $200-225.

I did offer the seller a buy-it-now price in that range - which was more than fair. However, he held firm and was cool about it. I believe that the realized price on this card was higher than a Dickerson PSA 10 RC?

Fabfrank · March 27, 2006 11:44AM

I learned my lesson with modern 10's. Wait till the next one. Even though 1985 is a tough year, and PSA seems to be going through one of their tightening modes, more will show up in the future. Than it will only be you and I bidding

ldferg · March 27, 2006 3:19PM

i've busted the wax box. i'll be submitting several. mostly in the 8-9 range.

sixdart · March 27, 2006 4:12PM

I'm looking to upgrade the following (2) PSA 7s and (1) PSA 9 OC ...

209 CINCINNATI BENGALS TL
249 JESSE BAKER
277 NICK LOWERY

... to PSA 8s or higher if you have a chance to submit them?

ldferg · March 28, 2006 5:30AM

i have a lowery to submit. actually i think i have an 8 lowery now. if you're interested, lmk.

BostonBrian · March 28, 2006 6:15AM

I would be interested in upgrading two cards from my 1985 Patriots team set. Currently these two are PSA 7s. Number 320 - TL NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS TL REFUSING TO BE DENIED TONY COLLINS and card number 324 - 1985 TOPPS TONY FRANKLIN. I would love to upgrade to PSA 8 or 9.

Also, thanks to FabFrank with the Tony Eason Card.

Brian

Fabfrank · March 28, 2006 6:19AM

Also, thanks to FabFrank with the Tony Eason Card.

Don't thank me till you get the card Brian

BTW, I might have those other 2 cards too. Let me check and I'll get back to you.

sixdart · March 28, 2006 9:30AM

LD,

Yes, I'm interested in the PSA 8 #277 NICK LOWERY. Please PM me with a price and the cert #.

ArnyVee · April 3, 2006 10:23PM

Looks like there isn't much action on the '85 football right now. There are hardly any 9s out there and the ones that are, I already have. So, just waiting for the next bunch to be posted.

Anyone have any to trade or sell?

ldferg · April 4, 2006 1:40PM

bostonbrian, i've got an 85 tony franklin. pm me if interested or email to LDFerguson@bwsc.net

sixdart, i'm looking for the lowery....for some reason it's not in my 85 bundle.

hobart4281 · April 5, 2006 10:13AM

Hey All

I am looking to put together a Dallas Cowboys team set. I have bought quite a few wax packs but have not realized any real success. Anybody have extras they'd like to sell? I am Ok with 8s--->Collecting on a budget. Thanks.

Brian

ldferg · April 5, 2006 11:15AM

hobart, i have several cowboys in 8. i'll pm you the list.

hobart4281 · April 6, 2006 11:21AM

Ferg-

Thanks for the offer...looking forward to seeing what you've got available.

Brian

ldferg · April 11, 2006 1:52PM

bostonbrian, tony franklin is in the mail.

sixdart, i was mistaken on the lowery..i do not have one in an 8.

hobart, pm being sent on the cowboys i have available.

was someone looking for a moon psa 9? i have one $45 DLVD. scan or cert can be sent if needed, lmk.

ColleSystem · April 11, 2006 2:27PM

I was just looking at the POP report for this set and there isn't a 10 Payton, WOW. Is it safe to say that close to 100% of the 10s in this set come from rack packs?

I really want to do this set, but I think I will have to wait until I am done with my 71 baseball. That Bears team card with Payton on it is one very, very cool card.

-SCott

sixdart · April 11, 2006 3:58PM

Scott,

The Payton and Elway are two of the toughest cards in the set. The Payton PSA 9 ranges from $150-$250 on Ebay - a high demand card.

I've graded PSA 10s from grocery cello rack packs and regular rack packs, however there is no PSA 10 guarantee in any specific type of box. Opening boxes is cost prohibitive unless you nail a few PSA 10s or low population PSA 9 stars. Wax boxes are definitely the toughest ... if I get 5-10 PSA 9 caliber cards in a box, then I'm happy. With rack packs, the benefit is not losing cards to wax or gum stains. This damage can be 3-4 cards per wax and cello pack.

If you begin this set, the first 30%-40% is very affordable and easy to assemble. The rest will require you to submit some cards on your own or network with members here.

sixdart · April 11, 2006 3:59PM

LD,

Thanks for the update.

Marcus

ldferg · April 13, 2006 11:48PM

sixdart,
i'd say jeremy will be real busy....i gave this a shot but couldn't pull it off 85 rack case

Fabfrank · April 14, 2006 12:08AM

I wish I would have seen that.

It would have kept me busy this weekend.

ldferg · April 14, 2006 1:39AM

looks like he hit the 79 rack case as well. i'd expect some 10s coming from this batch. maybe he'll part with one of the rack boxes....

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