I'm looking for a nice lower-grade (62PQ or 63) UNC 1850 specimen to complement my 1851 and 1852 specimens. But, a really awesome AU58 would also suffice, I suppose.
Michael. I miss the days when you used to pm, sharing your most knowledgable (commem) insights. I'd like to set up the forums in any way that would allow you to let us share more of your knowledge. I vote for whatever Michael votes for!
The true crime here that Adrian eludes to is that it takes a lot of effort and time to wade through loads of crap to find the truly insightful posts. The OT posts here are more and more common, and while I don't know about you all, I value my time. I also value a very good post, about almost any us coin, and I hate missing one. I do my best to read as much as possible in this forum, but I rarely have time to visit the Registry forum or the Darkside where there are some very good posters there too. I love to further my knowledge and this is a great place to do it. Where else can you find such a diversified crowd of specialists? At it's current form it takes a lot of time invested, but it could, and should be better.
I vote for a seperate forum, as classics/moderns are not a reflection of wealth or necessarily knowledge.
If there's not to be a seperate forum, how about more moderation when it comes to off topic and darkside posts (this is us coins after all).
Seriously, I think breaking the boards down into different categories is a good idea. I'm not a segregatist or have anything against other collectors or coins, it's simply that there is too much stuff being posted and worthwhile topics are quickly bumped off the page & forgotten. It's not a matter of denomination, value or what the poster does for a living. If somebody posts a good question and nobody answers it in several hours, BOOM!! it's gone & forgotten and the poster thinks nobody really cares about his question. It would slow things down a little because the topics would be around longer and not overlooked and some meaningful discussion might result. If the board moderator would do her job and delete about ½ the junk threads or move them to the Open Drivel Forum it would help immensely, I mean for example 1 board member does not need 5 threads of his philosophical ramblings and that just one of many recent examples.
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Consider this to be like what the library does: there's a section for each major category. Fiction here, U.S. History there. To the left are the American poets, and behind them are the depressing Russian poets.
Some books are for beginners, and some books are written in the vernacular.
It's all about organization... so people know where to go for posts of topical interest.
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"Consider this to be like what the library does: there's a section for each major category. Fiction here, U.S. History there. To the left are the American poets, and behind them are the depressing Russian poets.
Some books are for beginners, and some books are written in the vernacular.
It's all about organization... so people know where to go for posts of topical interest.
I guess I would agree with some sort of split - there's simply too much volume in any given day. The interesting threads are often buried. I'm mainly a classic guy, tho I'm sure I'd still visit the modern forum as I had spare time, just to check on things.
I don't see this proposed split as "elitist". Newbies do not bother me at all - I am happy to share my knowledge and experience with others. But thread after thread on topics that I have little or no interest in burying those that I do gets to me after a while.
Ok, assume you separate the forums... I took a look at the first page of topics on this forum right now. The good news is that there are 6 threads that clearly lend themselves to classification into one of these two forums:
Clearly Modern Forum: 1999 Dolley Madison In honor of DHeath and the rest of the MODERNISTAS - It's Modern's day!
Clearly Classic Forum: Anyone think something is odd with 1900 ms65pl? Anaconda: The Perils of Dealing in PCGS Early Coins 1807 Draped Bust Dime - guess the grade/discussion to follow 3/8/03 - A milestone in Early Dollars
The bad news is, all the rest don't...
"Wrong" Forum Already: An Opinion about Toned World Coinage A Positive Ending to a Deal
Threads that have little to about coins: An arrogant seller on ebay When we convince BJ to divide the forums, who will you miss the most? What a laugh--I just noticed I am a "veteran!" Should PCGS raise the price of grading moderns?
Unclear whether they should be in classic or modern, which means many would likely end up in both: Another newbie on the road to getting ripped-off!!!! Another e-bay scam Buyer Beware on These 'Certified' Slabs? ANA members - will you quit ANA if ACG prevails and Barry Stuppler is expelled? Did you get ANA's latest issue of the Numismatist?...If so how do you like it? should pcgs offer an exceptional eye appeal designation like ngc star? Is it time to break this forum into two forums, a U.S Modern forum and a U.S. Classics forum? Post some photos of cool coins.............Let's clear the slate and start talking and looking at COINS!
So... what do you accomplish by creating another forum, or at least by splitting into modern/classic? I agree the board has become too bloated. But modern/classic isn't the main problem. If the boards are split up somehow, it should be accompanied by an active moderator who keeps things organized better. And gets rid of posts or posters that don't contribute anything useful.
Splitting the forum doesn't do much for me one way or the other. However, why self-segregate? I've learned history and issues relating to rarity and grading as they relate to classics from this forum. Knowlege that I might not have otherwise acquired. People always have a choice as to what they read. It's only a click away, isn't that enough? Leave it you a haughty laywer to look down his nose while he tries to cram you into a box.
Are you going to monitor who visits what forum! You could have made a lot of money if you would have loaded up on 1995 10th Annv Sets! Oh no, thats Modern! Some of the biggest moves are from day one! Dont tell me you dont care about $, your a lawyer if Im not mistaken!
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"But thread after thread on topics that I have little or no interest in burying those that I do gets to me after a while. "
Therein lies hidden what we have to lose - there are some people who post here who are real assets to this forum. Many of them do not have as much free time as me, for example to wade through posts that are not relevant to them
As the forum becomes a less desireable place to come to, those valuable people leave.
Also there are others at this time who don't post here but who might post in the future that would be real assets to the forum.
I imagine that when some of them get here they get turned off because of so many posts that are not relevant to them.
Who knows, maybe Rick Tomaska one of the big modern dealers might come to a PCGS forum on moderns if that forum was largely geared towards his areas of interest (And yes, i know he is not just interested in moders but he still is one of the leading dealers in that series.)
supercoin says " And gets rid of posts or posters that don't contribute anything useful" What the hell makes you think that someone is not posting something that is useful or that the poster is not contributing? Maybe you need to go take a good look in the mirror, and then come back and retract such a ridiculous statement. Or maybe you think that you are on some level above everyone else.....Ken
I certainly agree with you regarding splitting the forums. Why should you have to read the unintelligent posts from uneducated newbie's like myself, who because of our stupidity we happen to collect moderns and want to learn from people like yourself.
As an old pro like yourself, you should not have to waste your valuable time reading posts from us newbie modern collector's. You're too important to be subjected to our senseless banter.
Maybe we can further segregate the forums into knowledge level. Classic's can be divided into those that have an equivent of a Phd. in Classic's; those with a Master's level of knowledge, those poor idiots that only have a 4 year degree, then the GED forum for the not so smart Classic collector's. Then futher divide by income level and of course, whether you're considered a White Collar professional or a "lowly" Blue Collar Professional.
Each will then have a password so that one of the above does not pollute your forum of choice. God forbid a GED Classic collector would enter your forum. We certainly would not want to subject you to "those" people and their inherently stupid questions. And please don't forget a further division by income level.
Please let us newbie modern collectors restrict our innocuous posts to the Newbie Forum. Appears you were born with your vast knowledge level, a person with your knowledge could never have been a newbie. How terrible it would be if we actually learned something the professionals.
Super idea, I'm all for it!!!
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What the hell makes you think that someone is not posting something that is useful or that the poster is not contributing? Maybe you need to go take a good look in the mirror, and then come back and retract such a ridiculous statement. Or maybe you think that you are on some level above everyone else.....Ken
It's a completely non-ridiculous statement. And your accusations are unfounded, as I think you would realize if you've followed any of my posts. And I'm a lowly modern collector, after all.
There have been plenty of posts (and posters) here who have contributed nothing but troll behavior. Surely you've seen some. (This weekend happens to be remarkably free from them, by the way.)
Why should the 99% of us here for the right reasons wade through the 1% who do that? And unfortunately that behavior often generates the most clutter from legitimate posters who can't help themselves but respond.
I avoided posting in this thread, he!!, I even avoided READING this thread, but it has been upfront for a couple days, so I peeked.
My emotions have run the gambit from "no way, well -- there is some validity there," to "yeah, please separate the forum." Whew, now I have a migraine.
Anyway, I came into this forum as a newbie (probably still considered one), but I believe I honed my skills and appreciation for US COINAGE I didn't initially consider collecting.
I'll admit, I was a little perturbed as the content grew after we moved of here, and probably, if I (and probably others) had my druthers (misguided as they were) a great many of you may have been excluded from the current format (and it wouldn't be newbies.)
But, hey -- everyone else is entitled to the same experiences I had. I think it would be pretty goddamned shrewish of me to think I don't have the time or patience to attend to needs of those newer collectors -- and let's cut the BS -- modern equates to collectors who are ill-informed equals newbies. Just reread if you can stomach, some of the previous responses.
Just exactly how did you come to collect and learn about your series and/or collecting desires. Surely not by someone relegating you to the corner, because they weren't interested in what you collect, and even if that is the case, it wasn't right and shouldn't be repeated.
I'm going to cut this tirade short; my apologies for my lack of tact AND for not completing this post.
There is an interim solution; go to the chatroom an only respond to the people on topic OR initiate a thread that will draw in only the people you want to hear from. Oh, and don't forget; don't forget it's a one way trip after you burn that bridge.
Mr. ANACONDA, you state, "As the forum becomes a less desireable place to come to, those valuable people leave." Sir, Life is nothing more than a sreies of choices. I, for one, when I get to a thread that I don't want to read, just click the mouse and go to another one. You too, have that choice, along with what you stated, "As the forum becomes a less desireable place to come to, those valuable people leave." These are my thoughts.........Ken
I believe that if you split the two then a great deal of information will be lost. My coin experience was pretty limited to "modern" coinage, but I love some of the old stuff I see on here. It seems a little silly that folks cant coexist. So what if there are differences and disagreements? Spirited debate and conversation should be encouraged, not compartmentalized. One forum allows for broader topics and education on a variety of coinage.
Rather than splitting the forum, is there a way to set up these message boards so a thread can be ignored on a per-user basis? This would also make feeding the trolls less likely and less beneficial for the trolls. I really don't care if Laura's "MODERN COLLECTORS..." tirade thread hits 700 posts or not. I would have ignored it a few hundred posts ago.
You're forgetting a major point, what about "ultra-moderns"? What exactly is a classic really? I like to think it's before 1936, modern: 1937-1998, ultra-modern: 1999->
There's a big difference between modern and ultra-modern; if anything, ultra-modern has more in common with classics IMO.
Either way though, just don't read the threads you don't like...
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It would be much better if the pre '33 gold collectors could be separated from the brown Ike collectors...I see a serious problem with this situation. Alco, the CC mint people should not have to mix with the S and P mint people...it is just a confrontation ready to happen. And just wait till the Denver v.s. Dahlonega go head to head, claiming to be the main D. Then there's the conflict between the GAE and the SAE people...they're just waiting in the wings and there will be hell to pay when it comes time and that's well before the proof v.s. the business strike folk finally meet up...armegeddon with just a couple of key-strokes. There's the people that like to talk about coin books and they research coin varieties and mint records v.s. the people that collect Lincoln cents...bummer, that's gonna leave a mark. We should all have our own forum where we can just talk about coins.
The idea seems to stop modern bashing/big disputes--but The PCGS Registry already is almost all about moderns now, and they'r already separate. I don't think Anaconda has thought this idea through totally because, without Laura and modern bashers, these threads always seem to turn to griping about "AT/NT or not " or other dumb stuff against by implication classic coins (cleaned!--but EF-40, what was PCGS thinking on this 1792 dimse!!!).
I haven't read all 142 posts....but maybe we could consider a Collector vs. Dealer forum ?
I know one impacts the other, but the market making threads or anything "in between" could be in the Dealer arena, and the purely informational, educational, post your picture threads can be on the Collectors side. I know that values have impact on the collector, they're interwined on some levels, but this would help skip over the more "mercenary" threads. Id keep this one the primary forum, and maybe create a US Coin - Collector section where we dont have to be so purely value driven.
Things in the Dealer thread: market making, my Saturday in the Brick and Mortar, how much can I get for this XYZ, can you believe they wanted 40% under greysheet for my pre-33 XYZZY, whatever...
Things in the Collector thread: Things to know about the Franklin/Accented Hair/Bust Halves/etc. So you want to collect buffalos, Post a pick of a nice circulated whatsis, Lord M's Diggers diary, Check out what i found in circulation, Cool story about something being found someplace,etc.
Just a thought. hopefully I wont have to apologize for this one at some point !
<< <i>The idea seems to stop modern bashing/big disputes--but The PCGS Registry already is almost all about moderns now, and they'r already separate. I don't think Anaconda has thought this idea through because, with Laura, the threads always turn to griping about "AT/NT or not threads" or other dumb stuff bashing by implication classic coins. >>
To continue the Dealer vs. Collectors forums...
I would think bashing eachothers items would be discouraged on the Collectors Forum. however, if you want to discuss retail merits, the Dealers Forum would be the place to post it and argue markets and value, etc...
I believe the BST forum needs a split before the US coin forum. Although it has been discussed before, the bst needs to be broke between selling here and selling on ebay. only two, unlike some of the already mentioned suggestions. If this forum was broke into two, moderns should be any coinage minted for current circulation, including wheat ears. Just my two cents
It would be a damn shame to banish the classic guys to their own forum.
It seems things have improved a great deal since this thread was started. In those days there was a lot of real bashing going on and much of it was well less than friendly. Today there is very little of the true bashing and what does exist is more an exchange of ideas than verbal fisticuffs.
Mhammerman does raise some major concerns but we'll just have to bridge those crosses when we bear them.
I vote no, because there are people that collect both and don't want to be bothered going to two forums.
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We don't need two forums. I like it the way it is.
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I'm looking for a nice lower-grade (62PQ or 63) UNC 1850 specimen to complement my 1851 and 1852 specimens. But, a really awesome AU58 would also suffice, I suppose.
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and another for coins 1950 and after
sincerely michael
1954 and before
1955 and after
sincerely michael
(Michael. Thank you.)
i understand the us coin forums are good overall but as of late lots of well less than positive things discussed
i would like more advanced collectors on the forums really discussing coins then
oh i made 5 ms69 stare quarters and now i am going to sell them immediately if not sooner for huge$$$$$$ to someone
and out of their holders they are 2 dollar coins just makes me really sick
but i guess to each his own
sincerely michael
I vote for whatever Michael votes for!
I vote for a seperate forum, as classics/moderns are not a reflection of wealth or necessarily knowledge.
If there's not to be a seperate forum, how about more moderation when it comes to off topic and darkside posts (this is us coins after all).
I'm not a segregatist or have anything against other collectors or coins, it's simply that there is too much stuff being posted and worthwhile topics are quickly bumped off the page & forgotten.
It's not a matter of denomination, value or what the poster does for a living. If somebody posts a good question and nobody answers it in several hours, BOOM!! it's gone & forgotten and the poster thinks nobody really cares about his question.
It would slow things down a little because the topics would be around longer and not overlooked and some meaningful discussion might result.
If the board moderator would do her job and delete about ½ the junk threads or move them to the Open Drivel Forum it would help immensely, I mean for example 1 board member does not need 5 threads of his philosophical ramblings and that just one of many recent examples.
Some books are for beginners, and some books are written in the vernacular.
It's all about organization... so people know where to go for posts of topical interest.
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Some books are for beginners, and some books are written in the vernacular.
It's all about organization... so people know where to go for posts of topical interest.
EVP"
I don't see this proposed split as "elitist". Newbies do not bother me at all - I am happy to share my knowledge and experience with others. But thread after thread on topics that I have little or no interest in burying those that I do gets to me after a while.
Clearly Modern Forum:
1999 Dolley Madison
In honor of DHeath and the rest of the MODERNISTAS - It's Modern's day!
Clearly Classic Forum:
Anyone think something is odd with 1900 ms65pl?
Anaconda: The Perils of Dealing in PCGS Early Coins
1807 Draped Bust Dime - guess the grade/discussion to follow
3/8/03 - A milestone in Early Dollars
The bad news is, all the rest don't...
"Wrong" Forum Already:
An Opinion about Toned World Coinage
A Positive Ending to a Deal
Threads that have little to about coins:
An arrogant seller on ebay
When we convince BJ to divide the forums, who will you miss the most?
What a laugh--I just noticed I am a "veteran!"
Should PCGS raise the price of grading moderns?
Unclear whether they should be in classic or modern, which means many would likely end up in both:
Another newbie on the road to getting ripped-off!!!!
Another e-bay scam
Buyer Beware on These 'Certified' Slabs?
ANA members - will you quit ANA if ACG prevails and Barry Stuppler is expelled?
Did you get ANA's latest issue of the Numismatist?...If so how do you like it?
should pcgs offer an exceptional eye appeal designation like ngc star?
Is it time to break this forum into two forums, a U.S Modern forum and a U.S. Classics forum?
Post some photos of cool coins.............Let's clear the slate and start talking and looking at COINS!
So... what do you accomplish by creating another forum, or at least by splitting into modern/classic? I agree the board has become too bloated. But modern/classic isn't the main problem. If the boards are split up somehow, it should be accompanied by an active moderator who keeps things organized better. And gets rid of posts or posters that don't contribute anything useful.
And all the self-important say Aye...
Therein lies hidden what we have to lose - there are some people who post here who are real assets to this forum. Many of them do not have as much free time as me, for example to wade through posts that are not relevant to them
As the forum becomes a less desireable place to come to, those valuable people leave.
Also there are others at this time who don't post here but who might post in the future that would be real assets to the forum.
I imagine that when some of them get here they get turned off because of so many posts that are not relevant to them.
Who knows, maybe Rick Tomaska one of the big modern dealers might come to a PCGS forum on moderns if that forum was largely
geared towards his areas of interest (And yes, i know he is not just interested in moders but he still is one of the leading dealers
in that series.)
and
What the hell makes you think that someone is not posting something that is useful or that the poster is not contributing?
Maybe you need to go take a good look in the mirror, and then come back and retract such a ridiculous statement. Or maybe you think that you are on some level above everyone else.....Ken
As an old pro like yourself, you should not have to waste your valuable time reading posts from us newbie modern collector's. You're too important to be subjected to our senseless banter.
Maybe we can further segregate the forums into knowledge level. Classic's can be divided into those that have an equivent of a Phd. in Classic's; those with a Master's level of knowledge, those poor idiots that only have a 4 year degree, then the GED forum for the not so smart Classic collector's. Then futher divide by income level and of course, whether you're considered a White Collar professional or a "lowly" Blue Collar Professional.
Each will then have a password so that one of the above does not pollute your forum of choice. God forbid a GED Classic collector would enter your forum. We certainly would not want to subject you to "those" people and their inherently stupid questions. And please don't forget a further division by income level.
Please let us newbie modern collectors restrict our innocuous posts to the Newbie Forum. Appears you were born with your vast knowledge level, a person with your knowledge could never have been a newbie. How terrible it would be if we actually learned something the professionals.
Super idea, I'm all for it!!!
Maybe you need to go take a good look in the mirror, and then come back and retract such a ridiculous statement. Or maybe you think that you are on some level above everyone else.....Ken
It's a completely non-ridiculous statement. And your accusations are unfounded, as I think you would realize if you've followed any of my posts. And I'm a lowly modern collector, after all.
There have been plenty of posts (and posters) here who have contributed nothing but troll behavior. Surely you've seen some. (This weekend happens to be remarkably free from them, by the way.)
Why should the 99% of us here for the right reasons wade through the 1% who do that? And unfortunately that behavior often generates the most clutter from legitimate posters who can't help themselves but respond.
My emotions have run the gambit from "no way, well -- there is some validity there," to "yeah, please separate the forum." Whew, now I have a migraine.
Anyway, I came into this forum as a newbie (probably still considered one), but I believe I honed my skills and appreciation for US COINAGE I didn't initially consider collecting.
I'll admit, I was a little perturbed as the content grew after we moved of here, and probably, if I (and probably others) had my druthers (misguided as they were) a great many of you may have been excluded from the current format (and it wouldn't be newbies.)
But, hey -- everyone else is entitled to the same experiences I had. I think it would be pretty goddamned shrewish of me to think I don't have the time or patience to attend to needs of those newer collectors -- and let's cut the BS -- modern equates to collectors who are ill-informed equals newbies. Just reread if you can stomach, some of the previous responses.
Just exactly how did you come to collect and learn about your series and/or collecting desires. Surely not by someone relegating you to the corner, because they weren't interested in what you collect, and even if that is the case, it wasn't right and shouldn't be repeated.
I'm going to cut this tirade short; my apologies for my lack of tact AND for not completing this post.
There is an interim solution; go to the chatroom an only respond to the people on topic OR initiate a thread that will draw in only the people you want to hear from. Oh, and don't forget; don't forget it's a one way trip after you burn that bridge.
"As the forum becomes a less desireable place to come to, those valuable people leave."
Sir, Life is nothing more than a sreies of choices. I, for one, when I get to a thread that I don't want to read, just click the mouse and go to another one. You too, have that choice, along with what you stated, "As the forum becomes a less desireable place to come to, those valuable people leave." These are my thoughts.........Ken
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You're forgetting a major point, what about "ultra-moderns"? What exactly is a classic really? I like to think it's before 1936, modern: 1937-1998, ultra-modern: 1999->
There's a big difference between modern and ultra-modern; if anything, ultra-modern has more in common with classics IMO.
Either way though, just don't read the threads you don't like...
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and the blackness when the dream dies, of lovers, fools, adventurers and kings while I sip my wine and contemplate the Chi.
I know one impacts the other, but the market making threads or anything "in between" could be in the Dealer arena, and the purely informational, educational, post your picture threads can be on the Collectors side. I know that values have impact on the collector, they're interwined on some levels, but this would help skip over the more "mercenary" threads. Id keep this one the primary forum, and maybe create a US Coin - Collector section where we dont have to be so purely value driven.
Things in the Dealer thread: market making, my Saturday in the Brick and Mortar, how much can I get for this XYZ, can you believe they wanted 40% under greysheet for my pre-33 XYZZY, whatever...
Things in the Collector thread: Things to know about the Franklin/Accented Hair/Bust Halves/etc. So you want to collect buffalos, Post a pick of a nice circulated whatsis, Lord M's Diggers diary, Check out what i found in circulation, Cool story about something being found someplace,etc.
Just a thought. hopefully I wont have to apologize for this one at some point !
<< <i>The idea seems to stop modern bashing/big disputes--but The PCGS Registry already is almost all about moderns now, and they'r already separate. I don't think Anaconda has thought this idea through because, with Laura, the threads always turn to griping about "AT/NT or not threads" or other dumb stuff bashing by implication classic coins. >>
To continue the Dealer vs. Collectors forums...
I would think bashing eachothers items would be discouraged on the Collectors Forum. however, if you want to discuss retail merits, the Dealers Forum would be the place to post it and argue markets and value, etc...
It seems things have improved a great deal since this thread was started. In those days
there was a lot of real bashing going on and much of it was well less than friendly. Today
there is very little of the true bashing and what does exist is more an exchange of ideas
than verbal fisticuffs.
Mhammerman does raise some major concerns but we'll just have to bridge those crosses
when we bear them.
I firmly believe in numismatics as the world's greatest hobby, but recognize that this is a luxury and without collectors, we can all spend/melt our collections/inventories.
eBaystore
Is the modern forum simply called the Registry forum?
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