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1907 Indian Head Cent - Guess the grade.

RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
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It's in an NGC holder.

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    JJMJJM Posts: 8,131 ✭✭✭✭✭
    58??? , I always get whacked when I go first image
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    ColonialCoinUnionColonialCoinUnion Posts: 10,087 ✭✭✭
    I'll say NGC called it a 62BN.
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    BunkerBunker Posts: 3,926 ✭
    I think 58 also
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    RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
    Those who think it's AU58, why?

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    coinnut86coinnut86 Posts: 1,592 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I'll say NGC called it a 62BN. >>



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    seanqseanq Posts: 8,866 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I also figured AU58 becuase of what looks like rub on the top two feathers, the hair below the ribbon, and the left side of the wreath on the reverse. If those are the result of a weak strike, and the coin has full luster in hand, I'd call it 63BN.


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    JJMJJM Posts: 8,131 ✭✭✭✭✭
    the obv is pretty tight, but the shield lines on the rev are touched, and the "one cent" lettering as well as the ribbon on the wreath shows a lil wear, no?....but I really dont know squat,....the coin looked tricky to grade as soon as I saw it....I'll be glad to embrace the coin into my collection, however....


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    NumisOxideNumisOxide Posts: 11,050 ✭✭✭✭✭
    62 BN
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    LanLordLanLord Posts: 11,763 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Those who think it's AU58, why? Russ, NCNE >>

    The cheek looks discolored. I would call it 5(something) also.

    There is a soft strike, and I believe some wear.

    Just my poor arse opinion.
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    mgoodm3mgoodm3 Posts: 17,497 ✭✭✭
    62bn
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    BECOKABECOKA Posts: 16,972 ✭✭✭
    Details seem kinda weak, not sure if it is due to wear or a weak strike. I am not very good at grading copper yet. If its wear then definately a 58 if it is weak strike it can't be more than 63.
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    1907Quarter1907Quarter Posts: 2,770
    62bn maybe 63
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    shylockshylock Posts: 4,288 ✭✭✭
    Cleaned AU details on the obverse, XF details on the reverse. This coin has dipped shadows on the obverse profile and an obviously worn denomination on the reverse. The color is funky, the fields have waves in many areas, and this is the first IH you've posted I really don't like image
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    MikeInFLMikeInFL Posts: 10,192 ✭✭✭✭
    AU 50 BN
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    coinfreak499coinfreak499 Posts: 1,720
    62BN


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    IrishMikeIrishMike Posts: 7,737 ✭✭✭
    Ok I will walk the plank on this coin 64 browny
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    mozeppamozeppa Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭
    64 brown
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    tjkilliantjkillian Posts: 5,578 ✭✭✭
    Poor strike, uneven color. I will guess:

    MS-63BN

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    au58au58 Posts: 1,288 ✭✭✭
    64bn
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    RedneckHBRedneckHB Posts: 20,278 ✭✭✭✭✭
    50
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    shylockshylock Posts: 4,288 ✭✭✭
    I'll give this one last try.

    Please, someone explain the obvious wear on the ONE CENT of this coin. And the weird wavey surfaces in the fields, the greenish brown color...
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    AmericanCopperAmericanCopper Posts: 396
    Shylock

    This is one of my Indianheads that Russ has been imaging the past few days. It's a mid-grade with one of the worst reverse strikes in my collection of Indianheads. The waviness is just toning and it just gives the appearance of having of being hit by a steamroller. The weak lettering adds to the illusion.
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    RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
    The other problem with this one is that it's severely cadiwampus in an old fatty slab. With the thickness of the NGC insert and the shadowing caused by the sharp angle, lots of shadows and imaging artifacts get created.

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    DMWJRDMWJR Posts: 6,108 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I'll give this one last try.

    Please, someone explain the obvious wear on the ONE CENT of this coin. And the weird wavey surfaces in the fields, the greenish brown color... >>



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    Cam40Cam40 Posts: 8,146 ✭
    63bn
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    ElcontadorElcontador Posts: 7,743 ✭✭✭✭✭
    This date is not weakly struck. You are looking at wear.
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    JRHJRH Posts: 542
    AU 55
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    LakesammmanLakesammman Posts: 17,711 ✭✭✭✭✭
    63BN
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    brccoinsbrccoins Posts: 302 ✭
    I'm pretty much wrong every single time but I'll go with MS60.
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    IrishMikeIrishMike Posts: 7,737 ✭✭✭
    So what is the grade?
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    BillJonesBillJones Posts: 36,023 ✭✭✭✭✭
    MS-63, Brown. There are some "residue traces" from the lifting of some crud, as Civil War token collectors put it, below the "ONE CENT" which downgrade it a point or two. I'll guess MS-63 because most MS-63's have a very tacky look to them, this is reasonably pleasent despite the minor problem.
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    LongacreLongacre Posts: 16,720 ✭✭✭
    It looks like it has some rub on it. I am not sure if it is truly there, though. I was going to say AU-58, but my first impression was MS-62BN.
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    my3centsmy3cents Posts: 1,411
    the main problem I see is the weak strike - beads are almost invisible and diamonds are very weak. I don't think either of these are due to wear.

    otherwise it appears problem fee.

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    oldcameoproofsguyoldcameoproofsguy Posts: 3,174 ✭
    I was going to say 58 too, but after Russ's coments about image artifacts and such I'll say 63BN.
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    BigMooseBigMoose Posts: 1,469 ✭✭✭
    64 Bn
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    291fifth291fifth Posts: 25,260 ✭✭✭✭✭
    AU50. Not much of a coin.
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    Wolf359Wolf359 Posts: 7,667 ✭✭✭
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    RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
    It's graded MS65BN.

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    JJMJJM Posts: 8,131 ✭✭✭✭✭
    oh my !!!!
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    rheddenrhedden Posts: 6,651 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Given the nature of the forum members, I'm surprised there weren't any guesses of XF-45. I'd grade it AU58, personally, due to some circulation ticks on the face and friction on the ribbon.

    Is it a PCGS or NGC coin?
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    IrishMikeIrishMike Posts: 7,737 ✭✭✭
    NGC its typed under the photo, its in a fatty slab. Anyone who owns IHC's that look like this I will pay XF45 money for them. It's not a 65 for sure.
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    TrinkettsTrinketts Posts: 1,699 ✭
    I just can't see that being a 65... but then again we are talking NGC
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    TorinoCobra71TorinoCobra71 Posts: 8,112 ✭✭✭
    Mint State 60 Brown!

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    MikeInFLMikeInFL Posts: 10,192 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I just can't see that being a 65... but then again we are talking NGC >>



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    shylockshylock Posts: 4,288 ✭✭✭
    This is one of my Indianheads that Russ has been imaging the past few days. It's a mid-grade with one of the worst reverse strikes in my collection of Indianheads. The waviness is just toning and it just gives the appearance of having of being hit by a steamroller. The weak lettering adds to the illusion.

    The steamroller effect is very effective with this coin image

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    Cam40Cam40 Posts: 8,146 ✭
    << I just can't see that being a 65... but then again we are talking NGC >>
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