I'm kinda surprised, but I guess it was the dual-date and privy.
In past years I was always worried about a sellout before I got mine for that year, but it was never really a problem. (Or maybe that was the Buffalo??)
I got mine this year - order 2498xxxx.
That was a little surprising. However, I'm wondering if the mint is going to pull off one of their famous restocks after initial sellout. I've seen them do that before, where they offer another 1,000 coins that end up languishing for awhile but we'll see.
Wow! Wasn't paying attention to this one today. Saw a post on another site showing ATS hit zero at 12:08:06 so this was only a hair longer than the EU Gold Eagle earlier this year. (Let's not count the silver Liberty Bell 20 second sellout LOL)
ats 2717 remained an hour before todays launch, 5,000 minus 2283 gone before today equals 2,717 available at Noon, September 3 2026
Enjoying the stability of our first matching pair Apple computers.
I saw on cnbc biz channel apple was going to experience price hikes were in pipeling a couple months ago. Went immediately to costco & bought two matching air on the spot. Price up $550 each. Crazy huh ? And they really play well with out iphones.
Oh, & my 10am order just got 2nd email saying "confirmed"
This year 40% (2000) of the mintage was offered to the big boys early at 5% more and was gobbled up.
Guessing the dual date and privy was a big factor.
Last year 40% (1600) of the mintage was also offered but only 659 was sold early at the premium.
However, after the HHL was lifted the rest went fairly quickly.
@Numismetal said:
That was a little surprising. However, I'm wondering if the mint is going to pull off one of their famous restocks after initial sellout. I've seen them do that before, where they offer another 1,000 coins that end up languishing for awhile but we'll see.
They probably won't. They don't seem to do too much for these palladium coins. I bought one last year to see what they looked like and was very impressed, but not enough to become a collector of them. Congrats to those few who got one today.
@Numismetal said:
That was a little surprising. However, I'm wondering if the mint is going to pull off one of their famous restocks after initial sellout. I've seen them do that before, where they offer another 1,000 coins that end up languishing for awhile but we'll see.
I would guess they held some to sell at the Long Beach Expo next week. Maybe some SemiQ Trump Dollar bags/rolls too were held back for the show. Not much else new on the Mint calendar to offer at the show.
@Numismetal said:
That was a little surprising. However, I'm wondering if the mint is going to pull off one of their famous restocks after initial sellout. I've seen them do that before, where they offer another 1,000 coins that end up languishing for awhile but we'll see.
They probably won't. They don't seem to do too much for these palladium coins. I bought one last year to see what they looked like and was very impressed, but not enough to become a collector of them. Congrats to those few who got one today.
you never know and i think it's possible. not all 5k were available today unless bulk buyers had some? does anyone have more info on that?
@Numismetal said:
That was a little surprising. However, I'm wondering if the mint is going to pull off one of their famous restocks after initial sellout. I've seen them do that before, where they offer another 1,000 coins that end up languishing for awhile but we'll see.
They probably won't. They don't seem to do too much for these palladium coins. I bought one last year to see what they looked like and was very impressed, but not enough to become a collector of them. Congrats to those few who got one today.
you never know and i think it's possible. not all 5k were available today unless bulk buyers had some? does anyone have more info on that?
I believe I read there was approx 2,000 that went to the ABPP (who took their whole allotment)
Uh oh. Just got an email saying they could not fulfill an order. Is it for this palladium or the Trump coins? What would the issue be? I’m having difficulty getting ahold of anyone at the mint to talk to.
@zeesh said:
Hopefully just a card issue for you and they clear it up when you call
Yes, that reads like an issue they can fix with you. I have an employee who collects coins and she had an order cancelled, which is a completely different email. This appears it can be fixed.
My donald bucks are on backorder. Two $100 boxed canvas bags are due to ship October 7th overnite.
May consider terminating in next 4 weeks~ish before they ship.
I'll continue to monitior the bag buyer's dated box adventures.
I am already seeing a few bag people getting 100% skunked on 7-31 dates & later.
No privy for you & you & you... !
They likely make 50 trillion of these $ and with mark up over cost senoreige will be able fully fund our debt load as of two weeks ago. These will be pleantiful, don't need to pay $1.65 a pop for a dollar coin.
$329 back to my plastic is the choice.
Which would take a tasty bite out of $1,915 dropped at 10am for tomorrows by noon delivery of Mercury $25 Pd Oz.
I hope its pretty & perfect, & not an another advanced buyers reject/return.
I'll know in seconds if it will go back as its been recurring and annoying.
My overnight deliveries have had a 55% reject due to Quality Control.
My other orders that I wait 2-3 weeks delivery have been 100% Quality Control, thus all keepers.
I called the Mint and the representative said they’re having the same issue on their end where they’re having to refresh pages (as that place orders) or start over due to being called non-human or inhumane or aliens!
Whatever.
I have the same issue. It is the 2nd time recently. I got hit with the SemiQ quarter roll last week. Customer service seems busy right now because of all the people that this has happened to. I my give up in try later in the day.
Wow! Wasn't paying attention to this one today. Saw a post on another site showing ATS hit zero at 12:08:06 so this was only a hair longer than the EU Gold Eagle earlier this year. (Let's not count the silver Liberty Bell 20 second sellout LOL)
I think that might have been me or @sharks2th if it was on CoinNews. I lost on in the great EU AGE lotto. Although I've got to clear up the "We’re Unable to Fulfill Your Order" for the 2nd time in two weeks.
So busy at work forgot about it until 12:15 or so and went oh crap! Logged in on my phone, no luck this one is my fault, sorta pissed, life goes on. I love the look of these especially the RP and have have every issue since 2017, love the liquid look of the RP's. My image below.
@morgansforever said:
So busy at work forgot about it until 12:15 or so and went oh crap! Logged in on my phone, no luck this one is my fault, sorta pissed, live goes on. I love the look of these especially the RP and have have every issue since 2017, love the look of the RP's. My image below.
def my fav finish in the series - don't have this one but always appreciate seeing it - great shots!
Wow! Wasn't paying attention to this one today. Saw a post on another site showing ATS hit zero at 12:08:06 so this was only a hair longer than the EU Gold Eagle earlier this year. (Let's not count the silver Liberty Bell 20 second sellout LOL)
I think that might have been me or @sharks2th if it was on CoinNews. I lost on in the great EU AGE lotto. Although I've got to clear up the "We’re Unable to Fulfill Your Order" for the 2nd time in two weeks.
YES!!!!!!!! It was you! I am only a "lurker" there.....I really appreciate your posts there. You generally track all of this stuff very well, so your posts are VERY INFORMATIVE for numbers geeks like me. Nice to see you here!
@jwitten said:
Uh oh. Just got an email saying they could not fulfill an order. Is it for this palladium or the Trump coins? What would the issue be? I’m having difficulty getting ahold of anyone at the mint to talk to.
I had the same issue. I assumed it was from yesterday because it was less than an hour after today's sale. I had concerns about missing out on the dollar coins. I did have issues today because I tried multiple times with the cc I wanted to use, basically picking from the different security codes, til I just went ahead and used a card I had memorized. Good thing I did, as this sold out pretty quickly. The rep was able to confirm the issue was for today and we cleared in up in a couple minutes. Good luck with yours.
Thank you for posting the pic of the reverse proof, which is by far my most favorite! So liquid. I have one that is graded and love it in the holder.
I did post on BST to see if I could dig up today today’s issue.
@jwitten said:
If NJ says they are a flop and a guaranteed no sell out I’d be getting the wallet ready.
Not what I said. What I said was that it looked like there were no ABPP sales.
Because sales are expected to be anemic. Not that they can't sell 2700.
And then I said that it would be a question as to whether or not they would make more if the 2700 sell out.
Not that they wouldn't. If 2K went to bulk, that answers the question regarding whether they will make 5K.
If 2K out of 5K went to ABPP, and you guys wanted them, you guys got screwed, and that also explains an 8 minute sell out.
But make no mistake -- 5K is anemic. If they thought they could sell 10K, they would make them. These are not gold Liberty Bells being offered at a $15K per ounce premium to spot. Or silver Liberty Bells at a $1500 premium to spot.
@illini420 said:
They sold out in less than 10 minutes and he asks if there's a market for them... nice.
Pavlovian dogs jumping when a low mintage bell rings does not make a market. Please keep things in perspective -- they sold 2700 in less than 10 minutes. Not 27K.
They sold more BOM4s at 3x the price in less time. Yes, I'm questioning whether there is a market for them.
They sold out in under 10 minutes. Bom did not sell out. One of those means more people want them than can get them. One of them means there are more coins available than buyer wanting them. Can you figure out which is which?
@illini420 said:
They sold out in less than 10 minutes and he asks if there's a market for them... nice.
Pavlovian dogs jumping when a low mintage bell rings does not make a market. Please keep things in perspective -- they sold 2700 in less than 10 minutes. Not 27K.
They sold more BOM4s at 3x the price in less time. Yes, I'm questioning whether there is a market for them.
@illini420 said:
Also no household limit on the best of the mint... palladium would have sold out even more quicky if there wasn't the limit of one.
What? BOMs all had HHLs of 1 for the first 24 hours. And palladium has a tiny mintage limit because they had a hard time selling them with higher limits. Not because it is Liberty Bell 2.0. Where they couldn't even sell the 2K they produced, due to the obnoxious pricing.
It also has half the premium to spot of the gold coins, in an attempt to stimulate demand. People who try to justify the gold premiums by costs the Mint has to recover should consider how and why the Mint charges half as much for platinum and palladium, where the volumes are much lower, and the fixed cost allocations are consequently much higher. The obvious answer is that they charge what the market will bear, and that cost recovery has nothing to do with the premiums they charge.
Whatever palladium is or is not, you can't deny that it's a very niche product. If you like it, that's great. I'm very happy for you.
But it's not a traditional precious metal, and there is a very limited market for it in coinage. I'm not wrong to question that market, no matter how quickly the US Mint sold a whopping 2700 units.
The simple fact is that the Mint can obviously sell 2K of anything if they price it right. Again, that really does not make a market. It just shows that there are enough people out there to chase low mintage products if they are not outrageously priced.
They also sold at least 1800 of all of the First Spouse coins. Doesn't make them anything above and beyond bullion today, even though they sold for significant premiums at the time. And even though many of them sold more than 2K units within 10 minutes of going on sale
@SIowhand said:
I tried. Just got the - 'we ain't fulfilling your order' email
everyone else who i saw post this [myself included] got this resolved by calling the mint
for me, some super backend dept at my bank blocked the transaction and I had to get them to stop doing that before calling the mint and having them rerun the charge
@jwitten said:
They sold out in under 10 minutes. Bom did not sell out. One of those means more people want them than can get them. One of them means there are more coins available than buyer wanting them. Can you figure out which is which?
@illini420 said:
They sold out in less than 10 minutes and he asks if there's a market for them... nice.
Pavlovian dogs jumping when a low mintage bell rings does not make a market. Please keep things in perspective -- they sold 2700 in less than 10 minutes. Not 27K.
They sold more BOM4s at 3x the price in less time. Yes, I'm questioning whether there is a market for them.
Are you kidding? Do you really think it would have taken 8 minutes for the Mint to sell 2700 BOM4s at $5740 if that was all they made available for sale?
The closest BOM comparison in terms of pricing is BOM2. To date, they sold 16,489 out of a maximum mintage of 30K. Do you really think they sold fewer than 2700 in the first 8 minutes?
Given the tiny mintage, a quick sell out is a function of nothing other than limited availability. Half the per ounce premium to spot as compared to gold certainly helps value, but what does it do for secondary market demand?
I don't know, and I don't care. Because I, like just about everyone else, do not collect palladium.
But, as I said before, if this works for you, I am happy for you. Nothing wrong with it.
But, please, please, please, resist the urge to compare the palladium market to the gold market. There is a reason they only try to sell 5K of one at a $500 premium to spot, while 15-25K of the other at a $1,000 premium to spot is typical. And it's not because they suddenly want to resist the urge to squeeze us for every dollar they can get.
That’s all good and well but you still didn’t answer the question. One coin has more buyers than available coins. One has more coins than buyers. Can you figure out which is which? It’s a simple supply and demand question.
@jwitten said:
They sold out in under 10 minutes. Bom did not sell out. One of those means more people want them than can get them. One of them means there are more coins available than buyer wanting them. Can you figure out which is which?
@illini420 said:
They sold out in less than 10 minutes and he asks if there's a market for them... nice.
Pavlovian dogs jumping when a low mintage bell rings does not make a market. Please keep things in perspective -- they sold 2700 in less than 10 minutes. Not 27K.
They sold more BOM4s at 3x the price in less time. Yes, I'm questioning whether there is a market for them.
Are you kidding? Do you really think it would have taken 8 minutes for the Mint to sell 2700 BOM4s at $5740 if that was all they made available for sale?
The closest BOM comparison in terms of pricing is BOM2. To date, they sold 16,489 out of a maximum mintage of 30K. Do you really think they sold fewer than 2700 in the first 8 minutes?
Given the tiny mintage, a quick sell out is a function of nothing other than limited availability. Half the per ounce premium to spot as compared to gold certainly helps value, but what does it do for secondary market demand?
I don't know, and I don't care. Because I, like just about everyone else, do not collect palladium.
But, as I said before, if this works for you, I am happy for you. Nothing wrong with it.
But, please, please, please, resist the urge to compare the palladium market to the gold market. There is a reason they only try to sell 5K of one at a $500 premium to spot, while 15-25K of the other at a $1,000 premium to spot is typical. And it's not because they suddenly want to resist the urge to squeeze us for every dollar they can get.
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8 minute sellout
just sold out now.
ats 0 🥳
well... sold out in 8 minutes
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these are such beautiful coins, and this year's double date looks especially nice on this one
congrats to those who were able to snag one
I’d love to hear NJ’s thoughts on this…. 😆
I'm kinda surprised, but I guess it was the dual-date and privy.
In past years I was always worried about a sellout before I got mine for that year, but it was never really a problem. (Or maybe that was the Buffalo??)
I got mine this year - order 2498xxxx.
Got me one #USM25015XXX
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That was a little surprising. However, I'm wondering if the mint is going to pull off one of their famous restocks after initial sellout. I've seen them do that before, where they offer another 1,000 coins that end up languishing for awhile but we'll see.
Wow! Wasn't paying attention to this one today. Saw a post on another site showing ATS hit zero at 12:08:06 so this was only a hair longer than the EU Gold Eagle earlier this year. (Let's not count the silver Liberty Bell 20 second sellout LOL)
480 seconds if my math is correct 😉
That was quick, huh ?
ats 2 image with my clock at top right.
ats 2717 remained an hour before todays launch, 5,000 minus 2283 gone before today equals 2,717 available at Noon, September 3 2026
Enjoying the stability of our first matching pair Apple computers.
I saw on cnbc biz channel apple was going to experience price hikes were in pipeling a couple months ago. Went immediately to costco & bought two matching air on the spot. Price up $550 each. Crazy huh ? And they really play well with out iphones.
Oh, & my 10am order just got 2nd email saying "confirmed"
This year 40% (2000) of the mintage was offered to the big boys early at 5% more and was gobbled up.
Guessing the dual date and privy was a big factor.
Last year 40% (1600) of the mintage was also offered but only 659 was sold early at the premium.
However, after the HHL was lifted the rest went fairly quickly.
They probably won't. They don't seem to do too much for these palladium coins. I bought one last year to see what they looked like and was very impressed, but not enough to become a collector of them. Congrats to those few who got one today.
I would guess they held some to sell at the Long Beach Expo next week. Maybe some SemiQ Trump Dollar bags/rolls too were held back for the show. Not much else new on the Mint calendar to offer at the show.
Michael Kittle Rare Coins --- 1908-S Indian Head Cent Grading Set --- No. 1 1909 Mint Set --- Kittlecoins on Facebook --- Long Beach Table 700
I really like the look of this coin. I just don't like the price tag. I almost caved in but I was able to resist the urge to buy one.
ATS drops over time:
Start: 2717
1.0 min: 2117
1.5 min: 1676
2.0 min: 1426
2.5 min: 1189
3.0 min: 957
3.5 min: 786
4.0 min: 641
4.5 min: 570
5.0 min: 508
Thrown into a waiting room... until...
8.0 min: 1
9.0 min: 0
has been confirmed.
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Agree! With advance sales and today’s ATS, a little over 200 are “missing”.
you never know and i think it's possible. not all 5k were available today unless bulk buyers had some? does anyone have more info on that?
I believe I read there was approx 2,000 that went to the ABPP (who took their whole allotment)
Uh oh. Just got an email saying they could not fulfill an order. Is it for this palladium or the Trump coins? What would the issue be? I’m having difficulty getting ahold of anyone at the mint to talk to.
o wth same 😵😵💫
Hopefully just a card issue for you and they clear it up when you call
Yes, that reads like an issue they can fix with you. I have an employee who collects coins and she had an order cancelled, which is a completely different email. This appears it can be fixed.
Happened to a number of people yesterday.
The Mints system did not process the cards.
Call it’s a two minute fix after an hour on hold. 😬
Took 30 minutes on hold but they “say” they fixed the issue. Still haven’t seen the charge come through so we’ll see.
My donald bucks are on backorder. Two $100 boxed canvas bags are due to ship October 7th overnite.
May consider terminating in next 4 weeks~ish before they ship.
I'll continue to monitior the bag buyer's dated box adventures.
I am already seeing a few bag people getting 100% skunked on 7-31 dates & later.
No privy for you & you & you... !
They likely make 50 trillion of these $ and with mark up over cost senoreige will be able fully fund our debt load as of two weeks ago. These will be pleantiful, don't need to pay $1.65 a pop for a dollar coin.
$329 back to my plastic is the choice.
Which would take a tasty bite out of $1,915 dropped at 10am for tomorrows by noon delivery of Mercury $25 Pd Oz.
I hope its pretty & perfect, & not an another advanced buyers reject/return.
I'll know in seconds if it will go back as its been recurring and annoying.
My overnight deliveries have had a 55% reject due to Quality Control.
My other orders that I wait 2-3 weeks delivery have been 100% Quality Control, thus all keepers.
Odd huh ?
I called the Mint and the representative said they’re having the same issue on their end where they’re having to refresh pages (as that place orders) or start over due to being called non-human or inhumane or aliens!
Whatever.
I have the same issue. It is the 2nd time recently. I got hit with the SemiQ quarter roll last week. Customer service seems busy right now because of all the people that this has happened to. I my give up in try later in the day.
I think that might have been me or @sharks2th if it was on CoinNews. I lost on in the great EU AGE lotto. Although I've got to clear up the "We’re Unable to Fulfill Your Order" for the 2nd time in two weeks.
confirmed it was a 2-ish min fix once I got through a 30 min hold
was related to the palladium coin so im vvvvvv grateful to see the amount debited from my acct and this coin secured
thx for the advice yall
So busy at work forgot about it until 12:15 or so and went oh crap! Logged in on my phone, no luck this one is my fault, sorta pissed, life goes on. I love the look of these especially the RP and have have every issue since 2017, love the liquid look of the RP's. My image below.
def my fav finish in the series - don't have this one but always appreciate seeing it - great shots!
YES!!!!!!!! It was you! I am only a "lurker" there.....I really appreciate your posts there. You generally track all of this stuff very well, so your posts are VERY INFORMATIVE for numbers geeks like me. Nice to see you here!
I had the same issue. I assumed it was from yesterday because it was less than an hour after today's sale. I had concerns about missing out on the dollar coins. I did have issues today because I tried multiple times with the cc I wanted to use, basically picking from the different security codes, til I just went ahead and used a card I had memorized. Good thing I did, as this sold out pretty quickly. The rep was able to confirm the issue was for today and we cleared in up in a couple minutes. Good luck with yours.
As today, I also had this on BOM4, came through by the next day.
Thank you for posting the pic of the reverse proof, which is by far my most favorite! So liquid. I have one that is graded and love it in the holder.
I did post on BST to see if I could dig up today today’s issue.
Not what I said. What I said was that it looked like there were no ABPP sales.
Because sales are expected to be anemic. Not that they can't sell 2700.
And then I said that it would be a question as to whether or not they would make more if the 2700 sell out.
Not that they wouldn't. If 2K went to bulk, that answers the question regarding whether they will make 5K.
If 2K out of 5K went to ABPP, and you guys wanted them, you guys got screwed, and that also explains an 8 minute sell out.
But make no mistake -- 5K is anemic. If they thought they could sell 10K, they would make them. These are not gold Liberty Bells being offered at a $15K per ounce premium to spot. Or silver Liberty Bells at a $1500 premium to spot.
My thoughts are that they made 5K and sold them. That's great.
The premium is reasonable as compared to all their other numismatic product. The mintage is low.
As it was for the First Spouse coins. If there is a market for palladium numismatic coins, these should do well. Is there?
They sold out in less than 10 minutes and he asks if there's a market for them... nice.
Michael Kittle Rare Coins --- 1908-S Indian Head Cent Grading Set --- No. 1 1909 Mint Set --- Kittlecoins on Facebook --- Long Beach Table 700
Pavlovian dogs jumping when a low mintage bell rings does not make a market. Please keep things in perspective -- they sold 2700 in less than 10 minutes. Not 27K.
They sold more BOM4s at 3x the price in less time. Yes, I'm questioning whether there is a market for them.
They sold out in under 10 minutes. Bom did not sell out. One of those means more people want them than can get them. One of them means there are more coins available than buyer wanting them. Can you figure out which is which?
Also no household limit on the best of the mint... palladium would have sold out even more quicky if there wasn't the limit of one.
Michael Kittle Rare Coins --- 1908-S Indian Head Cent Grading Set --- No. 1 1909 Mint Set --- Kittlecoins on Facebook --- Long Beach Table 700
I tried. Just got the - 'we ain't fulfilling your order' email
I believe there was a household limit of one on the BOM series, there is on BOM5.
What? BOMs all had HHLs of 1 for the first 24 hours. And palladium has a tiny mintage limit because they had a hard time selling them with higher limits. Not because it is Liberty Bell 2.0. Where they couldn't even sell the 2K they produced, due to the obnoxious pricing.
It also has half the premium to spot of the gold coins, in an attempt to stimulate demand. People who try to justify the gold premiums by costs the Mint has to recover should consider how and why the Mint charges half as much for platinum and palladium, where the volumes are much lower, and the fixed cost allocations are consequently much higher. The obvious answer is that they charge what the market will bear, and that cost recovery has nothing to do with the premiums they charge.
Whatever palladium is or is not, you can't deny that it's a very niche product. If you like it, that's great. I'm very happy for you.
But it's not a traditional precious metal, and there is a very limited market for it in coinage. I'm not wrong to question that market, no matter how quickly the US Mint sold a whopping 2700 units.
The simple fact is that the Mint can obviously sell 2K of anything if they price it right. Again, that really does not make a market. It just shows that there are enough people out there to chase low mintage products if they are not outrageously priced.
They also sold at least 1800 of all of the First Spouse coins. Doesn't make them anything above and beyond bullion today, even though they sold for significant premiums at the time. And even though many of them sold more than 2K units within 10 minutes of going on sale
everyone else who i saw post this [myself included] got this resolved by calling the mint
for me, some super backend dept at my bank blocked the transaction and I had to get them to stop doing that before calling the mint and having them rerun the charge
good luck!
Are you kidding? Do you really think it would have taken 8 minutes for the Mint to sell 2700 BOM4s at $5740 if that was all they made available for sale?
The closest BOM comparison in terms of pricing is BOM2. To date, they sold 16,489 out of a maximum mintage of 30K. Do you really think they sold fewer than 2700 in the first 8 minutes?
Given the tiny mintage, a quick sell out is a function of nothing other than limited availability. Half the per ounce premium to spot as compared to gold certainly helps value, but what does it do for secondary market demand?
I don't know, and I don't care. Because I, like just about everyone else, do not collect palladium.
But, as I said before, if this works for you, I am happy for you. Nothing wrong with it.
But, please, please, please, resist the urge to compare the palladium market to the gold market. There is a reason they only try to sell 5K of one at a $500 premium to spot, while 15-25K of the other at a $1,000 premium to spot is typical. And it's not because they suddenly want to resist the urge to squeeze us for every dollar they can get.
That’s all good and well but you still didn’t answer the question. One coin has more buyers than available coins. One has more coins than buyers. Can you figure out which is which? It’s a simple supply and demand question.