@olb31 said:
As for the Schmidt opc above, looks trimmed, but that shouldn't be the real reason since its slabbed. The post by 1982 makes the most sense. $350,000 vs $70,000 is way too much a difference for essentially the same pop. BUt in this case since the Topps is a pop 5, it probably should sell for a higher amount. The opc sell sounds more legit than someone paying $350,000 for a topps one.
Goldin sold a Topps PSA10 for $317,200 back in Nov 2024, so $350,000 by Heritage is not that outrageous by comparison.
The Heritage card was from the Dmitri Collection.
But if you're a believer of equal POP/equal price, then $70,000 cant be considered that legit.
interesting -- the topps card is a great card, but $350,000 seems way out there. 8's go for $1,800 or so its hard to fathom that large of a jump.
@olb31 said:
As for the Schmidt opc above, looks trimmed, but that shouldn't be the real reason since its slabbed. The post by 1982 makes the most sense. $350,000 vs $70,000 is way too much a difference for essentially the same pop. BUt in this case since the Topps is a pop 5, it probably should sell for a higher amount. The opc sell sounds more legit than someone paying $350,000 for a topps one.
Goldin sold a Topps PSA10 for $317,200 back in Nov 2024, so $350,000 by Heritage is not that outrageous by comparison.
The Heritage card was from the Dmitri Collection.
But if you're a believer of equal POP/equal price, then $70,000 cant be considered that legit.
interesting -- the topps card is a great card, but $350,000 seems way out there. 8's go for $1,800 or so its hard to fathom that large of a jump.
And 9s go for around $10k. We all know there are some 10s in those POP252 9 holders.
Time to gamble $10k for a chance to win $300k!
@olb31 said:
Sweet card and his rookie on top of that. He was a very good pitcher. Better than a semi star in my opinion. Did you get it graded or buy it?
Agree and bought it off ebay. Sweet card in person
@Mikeygiggs_336699 Great pickup! 1974 is the 2nd toughest set behind 1967. 1974 was a low print run due to a strike at the factory. The Expos cards from the 1974 set are especially tough.
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@waxman2745 said: @Mikeygiggs_336699 Great pickup! 1974 is the 2nd toughest set behind 1967. 1974 was a low print run due to a strike at the factory. The Expos cards from the 1974 set are especially tough.
Thanks @waxman2745! I have the Winfield and Parker PSA 8 and adding this card was very satisfying for me and an expo even better!
The focus of my collection over the past 5-6 years has been ‘74 OPC hall of famers in as close to pack fresh condition as possible with less focus on centering since many cards cannot be found with decent centering. Take a look at the pop report and you’ll see what I mean! I picked up a bunch graded but more are still raw since I’m afraid of how they’ll be treated by the grading companies. I still need Parker, Simmons, Berra and Schoendienst (not collecting HOF managers, only the three managers in the set who are HOF players). I have one PSA 10 common from this set, Mac Scarce; I believe there are only about 50 in existence in the entire set!
@reelinintheyears said:
The focus of my collection over the past 5-6 years has been ‘74 OPC hall of famers in as close to pack fresh condition as possible with less focus on centering since many cards cannot be found with decent centering. Take a look at the pop report and you’ll see what I mean! I picked up a bunch graded but more are still raw since I’m afraid of how they’ll be treated by the grading companies. I still need Parker, Simmons, Berra and Schoendienst (not collecting HOF managers, only the three managers in the set who are HOF players). I have one PSA 10 common from this set, Mac Scarce; I believe there are only about 50 in existence in the entire set!
I did not realize 1974 OPC was so scarce. I guess it makes sense as this group of Aaron cards is the extent of my '74's. I have fewer '74's than any other year in the first half of the 1970's. As with the '71's, the yellow backs are much easier to read than Topps' green backs.
I won a raw ‘74 Parker from Canada on eBay today. It looks nicer than the few graded copies currently available, with the exception of the PSA 7 selling for $1,500 on Fanatics Collect. Hopefully it looks as nice in person as it does online. Now I just need Simmons, Berra and Schoendienst to complete my ‘74 HOF subset!
I dont see anything on that PSA 10 Murray rookie that tells me it is sheet cut. I have both smooth and rough cut murray rookies. while not "scientific" the card does fill out the holder well.
I wouldnt cast stones against it is not conclusive. to me, it looks good.
It's all good. CardGeek says it's probably fake, probably NFC, probably sheet cut last week or last year or something. I think he is confused. Not sure he even knows what he's talking about.
Half of my OPC baseball collection came from Tom. I trust him when buying from him, and I trust that he has only authentic cards cut at the time of original production in his collection.
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@CardGeek said:
I mean it's probably NFC, Not Factory Cut. That card was probably cut from a sheet last week or last year or something.
Quite possibly. But weren't all of them at one point or another?
Well, that's true. But, this card isn't original as from the factory.
What you're saying is pretty much the same as saying a reprint is the same as an original. Printed from the same plates. Or even plates generated from the original process. Because they were all made that way.
This card was created using a different process.
It's also similar to a restored card or a color touched card.
So now the card is not from the factory, lol. I guess your saying it's a reprint, lol. "It was created with a different process." Please inform all of us about this process because your all over the board on this card. You seem to have a lot (or none) of inside knowledge for someone who sent in their 1st submission just 4 years ago.
"I mean it's probably NFC, Not Factory Cut. That card was probably cut from a sheet last week or last year or something."
"That Murray is probably fake. It's also high on the card."
The Murray is definitely an anomaly, the chances of clean edges AND perfect centering on a 78 OPC are miniscule, some would say near impossible. And guys like Martin Sports have been able to get sheet cut cards into PSA slabs of recent.
Not that I really care, or feel its owed to me, but would be interested in the provenance on the card.
@CardGeek said:
I mean it's probably NFC, Not Factory Cut. That card was probably cut from a sheet last week or last year or something.
Quite possibly. But weren't all of them at one point or another?
Well, that's true. But, this card isn't original as from the factory.
What you're saying is pretty much the same as saying a reprint is the same as an original. Printed from the same plates. Or even plates generated from the original process. Because they were all made that way.
This card was created using a different process.
It's also similar to a restored card or a color touched card.
I would NOT say that's what he's saying AT ALL.
I don't follow your logic.
edited to add; there's always the possibility any card could be cut (later) from a sheet. PSA is not perfect, but they authenticated it, that's good enough for me.
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interesting -- the topps card is a great card, but $350,000 seems way out there. 8's go for $1,800 or so its hard to fathom that large of a jump.
And 9s go for around $10k. We all know there are some 10s in those POP252 9 holders.
Time to gamble $10k for a chance to win $300k!
And some 8s in 10 holders
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Posted in the May pickups thread, happy to add this to my OPC baseball collection and a 74 OPC to boot a very tough year for high grade.
Sweet card and his rookie on top of that. He was a very good pitcher. Better than a semi star in my opinion. Did you get it graded or buy it?
Agree and bought it off ebay. Sweet card in person
@Mikeygiggs_336699 Great pickup! 1974 is the 2nd toughest set behind 1967. 1974 was a low print run due to a strike at the factory. The Expos cards from the 1974 set are especially tough.
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also collecting US & Canadian silver coins
Thanks @waxman2745! I have the Winfield and Parker PSA 8 and adding this card was very satisfying for me and an expo even better!
The focus of my collection over the past 5-6 years has been ‘74 OPC hall of famers in as close to pack fresh condition as possible with less focus on centering since many cards cannot be found with decent centering. Take a look at the pop report and you’ll see what I mean! I picked up a bunch graded but more are still raw since I’m afraid of how they’ll be treated by the grading companies. I still need Parker, Simmons, Berra and Schoendienst (not collecting HOF managers, only the three managers in the set who are HOF players). I have one PSA 10 common from this set, Mac Scarce; I believe there are only about 50 in existence in the entire set!
45 PSA 10's in total. Great pickup Mikey!
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PSA 10 1979 OPC Ozzie Smith rookie auctioned on Ebay for $71,100.00 last week
George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.
Wow, super strong prices! Some of these big names (Ryan, Ozzie) are approaching the levels of a 79 OPC Gretzky rookie in high grade.
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That ozzie is provably 3% of what a PSA 10 OPC gretz would sell for, so lots of delta there still.
The sales of the Ozzie and Schmidt make me feel good about my Murray!
WOW!...congrats!!!
I did not realize 1974 OPC was so scarce. I guess it makes sense as this group of Aaron cards is the extent of my '74's. I have fewer '74's than any other year in the first half of the 1970's. As with the '71's, the yellow backs are much easier to read than Topps' green backs.
I won a raw ‘74 Parker from Canada on eBay today. It looks nicer than the few graded copies currently available, with the exception of the PSA 7 selling for $1,500 on Fanatics Collect. Hopefully it looks as nice in person as it does online. Now I just need Simmons, Berra and Schoendienst to complete my ‘74 HOF subset!
That Murray is probably fake. It's also high on the card.
It was sold in a Heritage auction. For an exceptional price. I'm certain the current owner of the card knows exactly what he has.
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what do you mean by fake? Counterfeit? Trimmed? Altered?
what would make you think that?
George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.
I mean it's probably NFC, Not Factory Cut. That card was probably cut from a sheet last week or last year or something.
Quite possibly. But weren't all of them at one point or another?
I dont see anything on that PSA 10 Murray rookie that tells me it is sheet cut. I have both smooth and rough cut murray rookies. while not "scientific" the card does fill out the holder well.
I wouldnt cast stones against it is not conclusive. to me, it looks good.
George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.
It's all good. CardGeek says it's probably fake, probably NFC, probably sheet cut last week or last year or something. I think he is confused. Not sure he even knows what he's talking about.
Half of my OPC baseball collection came from Tom. I trust him when buying from him, and I trust that he has only authentic cards cut at the time of original production in his collection.
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also collecting US & Canadian silver coins
Well, that's true. But, this card isn't original as from the factory.
What you're saying is pretty much the same as saying a reprint is the same as an original. Printed from the same plates. Or even plates generated from the original process. Because they were all made that way.
This card was created using a different process.
It's also similar to a restored card or a color touched card.
So now the card is not from the factory, lol. I guess your saying it's a reprint, lol. "It was created with a different process." Please inform all of us about this process because your all over the board on this card. You seem to have a lot (or none) of inside knowledge for someone who sent in their 1st submission just 4 years ago.
"I mean it's probably NFC, Not Factory Cut. That card was probably cut from a sheet last week or last year or something."
"That Murray is probably fake. It's also high on the card."
CardGeek tell us, is it AI?
The Murray is definitely an anomaly, the chances of clean edges AND perfect centering on a 78 OPC are miniscule, some would say near impossible. And guys like Martin Sports have been able to get sheet cut cards into PSA slabs of recent.
Not that I really care, or feel its owed to me, but would be interested in the provenance on the card.
I would NOT say that's what he's saying AT ALL.
I don't follow your logic.
edited to add; there's always the possibility any card could be cut (later) from a sheet. PSA is not perfect, but they authenticated it, that's good enough for me.
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