ANSWER POSTED - Guess the grade (or details?): 1838 "no drapery, large stars" dime

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TallahasseeCoinClub
TallahasseeCoinClub Posts: 474 ✭✭✭✭
edited April 30, 2026 10:10AM in U.S. Coin Forum

Answer posted below so you can guess first before the big reveal:

Official PCGS account of:

www.TallahasseeCoinClub.com

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  • johnny9434
    johnny9434 Posts: 34,051 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I dint know. What's going on with the bar going from the e in dime into the leaves? Ill go with a 63 just to start

  • TallahasseeCoinClub
    TallahasseeCoinClub Posts: 474 ✭✭✭✭
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    @johnny9434 said:
    I dint know. What's going on with the bar going from the e in dime into the leaves? Ill go with a 63 just to start

    That's the cool thing about this specific large-stars example - it's a clash mark!

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  • privatecoin
    privatecoin Posts: 3,853 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    58

    Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value. Zero. Voltaire. Ebay coinbowlllc

  • oih82w8
    oih82w8 Posts: 13,206 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Looks like a rub on the thighs...AU58

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  • Coinscratch
    Coinscratch Posts: 11,086 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Graffiti

  • MFeld
    MFeld Posts: 17,131 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 30, 2026 7:48AM
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    @Coinscratch said:
    Graffiti

    Where?

    In the meantime, I’ll guess MS62, shot AU58.

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  • Cougar1978
    Cougar1978 Posts: 10,067 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 30, 2026 8:14AM
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    Au55

    Looks really nice on first glance. But reverse - details?

    Investor
  • marcmoish
    marcmoish Posts: 6,936 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    55

  • jfriedm56
    jfriedm56 Posts: 3,101 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Au58

  • jesbroken
    jesbroken Posts: 11,252 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    If color not an issue, i guess 63. I don't feel any wear present, perhaps some cabinet friction. Not near as smart as some other graders here, but that's my opinion. Were this coin mine, I would never accept AU prices for it, so I might own it for a while. Lol
    Jim


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  • Coinscratch
    Coinscratch Posts: 11,086 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @MFeld said:

    @Coinscratch said:
    Graffiti

    Where?

    In the meantime, I’ll guess MS62, shot AU58.

    Just a wild guess because he said details and there are numerous hits in the right
    obverse fields.

  • BillJones
    BillJones Posts: 35,933 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 30, 2026 9:52AM
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    I don’t like the color. My grade is AU sharpness, AT.

    I don’t care for the tiny untoned stops here and there. It does not look like the “terminal” black toning.

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  • MFeld
    MFeld Posts: 17,131 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @Coinscratch said:

    @MFeld said:

    @Coinscratch said:
    Graffiti

    Where?

    In the meantime, I’ll guess MS62, shot AU58.

    Just a wild guess because he said details and there are numerous hits in the right
    obverse fields.

    Thank you.

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

  • jesbroken
    jesbroken Posts: 11,252 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Great coin.
    Jim


    When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest....Abraham Lincoln

    Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.....Mark Twain
  • marcmoish
    marcmoish Posts: 6,936 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @TallahasseeCoinClub said:
    Ugh, I am going to have to improve my iPhone camera skills drastically. Here she is:

    >

    yes, big time lol!

  • Coinscratch
    Coinscratch Posts: 11,086 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @marcmoish said:

    @TallahasseeCoinClub said:
    Ugh, I am going to have to improve my iPhone camera skills drastically. Here she is:

    >

    yes, big time lol!

    I agree iphones are tough to get images without the pixelations.

  • MFeld
    MFeld Posts: 17,131 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 30, 2026 11:10AM
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    @jesbroken said:
    Great coin.
    Jim

    Why didn’t you say that before the grade was posted ? ;)

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  • oih82w8
    oih82w8 Posts: 13,206 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I won't give up my day job...or my night job either.

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  • MFeld
    MFeld Posts: 17,131 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @oih82w8 said:
    I won't give up my day job...or my night job either.

    Don’t be too hard on yourself. The majority of guesses were AU.

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

  • MsMorrisine
    MsMorrisine Posts: 40,041 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I guessed high again. i should've left it at too dark to tell

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  • oih82w8
    oih82w8 Posts: 13,206 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Here is the TrueView;

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  • BigFrankie
    BigFrankie Posts: 60 ✭✭✭
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    Appears to be an F -110 (your iPhone did not do this dime justice!!!).

  • jesbroken
    jesbroken Posts: 11,252 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @MFeld said:

    @jesbroken said:
    Great coin.
    Jim

    Why didn’t you say that before the grade was posted ? ;)

    I thought I had said so, Mark, when I said I would not let the coin go for AU prices if it were mine and GTG of MS63. You have no idea how close I was to saying MS64, then got scared by all the others. lol
    Jim


    When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest....Abraham Lincoln

    Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.....Mark Twain
  • MFeld
    MFeld Posts: 17,131 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @jesbroken said:

    @MFeld said:

    @jesbroken said:
    Great coin.
    Jim

    Why didn’t you say that before the grade was posted ? ;)

    I thought I had said so, Mark, when I said I would not let the coin go for AU prices if it were mine and GTG of MS63. You have no idea how close I was to saying MS64, then got scared by all the others. lol
    Jim

    Jim, you do have the honor of having made the highest grade guess.👍

    MsMorrisine Posts: 38,666 ✭✭✭✭✭ April 30, 2026 1:34PM
    I guessed high again. i should've left it at too dark to tell
    >

    You didn’t post your guess so it never happened. 😉

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  • MFeld
    MFeld Posts: 17,131 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 30, 2026 1:39PM
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    @oih82w8 said:
    Here is the TrueView;

    I think that the average grade guess would have been higher, had those pictures been posted, instead.

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

  • marcmoish
    marcmoish Posts: 6,936 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 30, 2026 1:06PM
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    @MsMorrisine said:
    I guessed high again. i should've left it at too dark to tell

    ye, it's hard to make out colors from a jail cell. :D

    Seriously had the TV been shown, most would not have gone below 62-63 (well, except @MsMorrisine )

  • Mr_Spud
    Mr_Spud Posts: 7,272 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I thought 63 when I saw the original post, then scrolled down and saw 64. Cool looking coin, sort of a “Black Beauty” 🌚

    Mr_Spud

  • TallahasseeCoinClub
    TallahasseeCoinClub Posts: 474 ✭✭✭✭
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    @MFeld said:

    @oih82w8 said:
    Here is the TrueView;

    I think that the average grade guess would have been higher, had those pictures been posted, instead.

    Probably. However, the color in the Trueview photos is way off base. For virtually every viewing angle, the coin is dark blue/grey.

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  • safari_dude
    safari_dude Posts: 698 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    So based on the owner’s photo vs the True View, if you bought the coin from the True View and it looked like the owner’s photo when you received it, would you be disappointed or feel mislead?

  • oldglorycoins
    oldglorycoins Posts: 305 ✭✭✭
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    @safari_dude said:
    So based on the owner’s photo vs the True View, if you bought the coin from the True View and it looked like the owner’s photo when you received it, would you be disappointed or feel mislead?

    or.... the owner took a awful photo

  • TallahasseeCoinClub
    TallahasseeCoinClub Posts: 474 ✭✭✭✭
    edited May 1, 2026 4:03AM
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    In-hand, from almost all viewing angles, my photo conveys a substantially more accurate representation. And I personally much prefer the darker appearance over the heavily exaggerated colors in the Trueview.

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    www.TallahasseeCoinClub.com

  • safari_dude
    safari_dude Posts: 698 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @oldglorycoins said:

    ……..

    or.... the owner took a awful photo

    However, the owner says his photos more accurately reflect what the coin looks like in person…..soooooo…….

  • Whatsinacoin
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    I have an 1838 Seated Liberty dime that on the obverse there is no drapery from her arm, I think the stars are large and the color is dark, There is a die crack from between the 6th & 7th star, counting from bottom left to her right shoulder. On the reverse, I'm not sure what it is called, but on the left side it appears there is metal missing above 'United'. To the right of the words, 'One Dime' the leaves of the wreath seem to be smashed over AMERICA, hiding the letters 'MERI'. The coin is not in that great of condition. Do you think it may still have value?

  • TallahasseeCoinClub
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    I see some damage but yes, this coin has value.

    It would be great to start a new thread with your coin as the OP!

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    www.TallahasseeCoinClub.com

  • BigFrankie
    BigFrankie Posts: 60 ✭✭✭
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    It appears to be an F-106 (or possibly F-106a). The F-106 is a Top 100 Fortin Variety. As a result, even in this condition (VG Details), there is some demand. It may be worth around $40.

  • Whatsinacoin
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    I have no clue how to start a new thread but thank y'all...I appreciate your responses and information. Since this was a coin from one of my sons' US Type Coin Folders, and selling it won't make him rich overnight, I suppose it would be best if I looked for a better-quality coin to replace it! Thnx again.

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