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ANSWER POSTED - Guess the grade (or details?): 1838 "no drapery, large stars" dime

TallahasseeCoinClubTallahasseeCoinClub Posts: 280 ✭✭✭
edited April 30, 2026 10:10AM in U.S. Coin Forum

Answer posted below so you can guess first before the big reveal:

Official PCGS account of:

www.TallahasseeCoinClub.com

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  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 31,465 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I dint know. What's going on with the bar going from the e in dime into the leaves? Ill go with a 63 just to start

  • @johnny9434 said:
    I dint know. What's going on with the bar going from the e in dime into the leaves? Ill go with a 63 just to start

    That's the cool thing about this specific large-stars example - it's a clash mark!

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  • privatecoinprivatecoin Posts: 3,739 ✭✭✭✭✭

    58

    Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value. Zero. Voltaire. Ebay coinbowlllc

  • oih82w8oih82w8 Posts: 12,976 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks like a rub on the thighs...AU58

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  • CoinscratchCoinscratch Posts: 10,754 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Graffiti

  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 16,341 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 30, 2026 7:48AM

    @Coinscratch said:
    Graffiti

    Where?

    In the meantime, I’ll guess MS62, shot AU58.

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  • Cougar1978Cougar1978 Posts: 9,585 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 30, 2026 8:14AM

    Au55

    Looks really nice on first glance. But reverse - details?

    Investor
  • marcmoishmarcmoish Posts: 6,880 ✭✭✭✭✭

    55

  • jfriedm56jfriedm56 Posts: 2,874 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Au58

  • jesbrokenjesbroken Posts: 11,136 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If color not an issue, i guess 63. I don't feel any wear present, perhaps some cabinet friction. Not near as smart as some other graders here, but that's my opinion. Were this coin mine, I would never accept AU prices for it, so I might own it for a while. Lol
    Jim


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  • CoinscratchCoinscratch Posts: 10,754 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MFeld said:

    @Coinscratch said:
    Graffiti

    Where?

    In the meantime, I’ll guess MS62, shot AU58.

    Just a wild guess because he said details and there are numerous hits in the right
    obverse fields.

  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 35,661 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 30, 2026 9:52AM

    I don’t like the color. My grade is AU sharpness, AT.

    I don’t care for the tiny untoned stops here and there. It does not look like the “terminal” black toning.

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  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 16,341 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Coinscratch said:

    @MFeld said:

    @Coinscratch said:
    Graffiti

    Where?

    In the meantime, I’ll guess MS62, shot AU58.

    Just a wild guess because he said details and there are numerous hits in the right
    obverse fields.

    Thank you.

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

  • jesbrokenjesbroken Posts: 11,136 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Great coin.
    Jim


    When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest....Abraham Lincoln

    Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.....Mark Twain
  • marcmoishmarcmoish Posts: 6,880 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @TallahasseeCoinClub said:
    Ugh, I am going to have to improve my iPhone camera skills drastically. Here she is:

    >

    yes, big time lol!

  • CoinscratchCoinscratch Posts: 10,754 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @marcmoish said:

    @TallahasseeCoinClub said:
    Ugh, I am going to have to improve my iPhone camera skills drastically. Here she is:

    >

    yes, big time lol!

    I agree iphones are tough to get images without the pixelations.

  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 16,341 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 30, 2026 11:10AM

    @jesbroken said:
    Great coin.
    Jim

    Why didn’t you say that before the grade was posted ? ;)

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

  • oih82w8oih82w8 Posts: 12,976 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I won't give up my day job...or my night job either.

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  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 16,341 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @oih82w8 said:
    I won't give up my day job...or my night job either.

    Don’t be too hard on yourself. The majority of guesses were AU.

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  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 38,674 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I guessed high again. i should've left it at too dark to tell

  • oih82w8oih82w8 Posts: 12,976 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Here is the TrueView;

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  • Appears to be an F -110 (your iPhone did not do this dime justice!!!).

  • jesbrokenjesbroken Posts: 11,136 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MFeld said:

    @jesbroken said:
    Great coin.
    Jim

    Why didn’t you say that before the grade was posted ? ;)

    I thought I had said so, Mark, when I said I would not let the coin go for AU prices if it were mine and GTG of MS63. You have no idea how close I was to saying MS64, then got scared by all the others. lol
    Jim


    When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest....Abraham Lincoln

    Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.....Mark Twain
  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 16,341 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jesbroken said:

    @MFeld said:

    @jesbroken said:
    Great coin.
    Jim

    Why didn’t you say that before the grade was posted ? ;)

    I thought I had said so, Mark, when I said I would not let the coin go for AU prices if it were mine and GTG of MS63. You have no idea how close I was to saying MS64, then got scared by all the others. lol
    Jim

    Jim, you do have the honor of having made the highest grade guess.👍

    MsMorrisine Posts: 38,666 ✭✭✭✭✭ April 30, 2026 1:34PM
    I guessed high again. i should've left it at too dark to tell
    >

    You didn’t post your guess so it never happened. 😉

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 16,341 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 30, 2026 1:39PM

    @oih82w8 said:
    Here is the TrueView;

    I think that the average grade guess would have been higher, had those pictures been posted, instead.

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

  • marcmoishmarcmoish Posts: 6,880 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 30, 2026 1:06PM

    @MsMorrisine said:
    I guessed high again. i should've left it at too dark to tell

    ye, it's hard to make out colors from a jail cell. :D

    Seriously had the TV been shown, most would not have gone below 62-63 (well, except @MsMorrisine )

  • Mr_SpudMr_Spud Posts: 7,057 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I thought 63 when I saw the original post, then scrolled down and saw 64. Cool looking coin, sort of a “Black Beauty” 🌚

    Mr_Spud

  • @MFeld said:

    @oih82w8 said:
    Here is the TrueView;

    I think that the average grade guess would have been higher, had those pictures been posted, instead.

    Probably. However, the color in the Trueview photos is way off base. For virtually every viewing angle, the coin is dark blue/grey.

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    www.TallahasseeCoinClub.com

  • safari_dudesafari_dude Posts: 512 ✭✭✭✭✭

    So based on the owner’s photo vs the True View, if you bought the coin from the True View and it looked like the owner’s photo when you received it, would you be disappointed or feel mislead?

  • oldglorycoinsoldglorycoins Posts: 252 ✭✭✭

    @safari_dude said:
    So based on the owner’s photo vs the True View, if you bought the coin from the True View and it looked like the owner’s photo when you received it, would you be disappointed or feel mislead?

    or.... the owner took a awful photo

  • TallahasseeCoinClubTallahasseeCoinClub Posts: 280 ✭✭✭
    edited May 1, 2026 4:03AM

    In-hand, from almost all viewing angles, my photo conveys a substantially more accurate representation. And I personally much prefer the darker appearance over the heavily exaggerated colors in the Trueview.

    Official PCGS account of:

    www.TallahasseeCoinClub.com

  • safari_dudesafari_dude Posts: 512 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @oldglorycoins said:

    ……..

    or.... the owner took a awful photo

    However, the owner says his photos more accurately reflect what the coin looks like in person…..soooooo…….

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