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Gothat3rs
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Just curious about grade opinions on this 81 cc.

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  • Spud2020
    Spud2020 Posts: 106 ✭✭✭✭
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    Luster of a 64. Reverse marks on eagle and obv. neck. My guess 63.

  • TomB
    TomB Posts: 23,191 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Looks great, nice and frosty.

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  • pursuitofliberty
    pursuitofliberty Posts: 7,926 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Looks like a nice 63, and it seems to have a shot at 4 I think


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  • MFeld
    MFeld Posts: 17,133 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    63+

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  • johnny9434
    johnny9434 Posts: 34,068 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Ms 63, nice coin 🪙

  • coinbuf
    coinbuf Posts: 12,567 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    63+ is my grade, likely a 64 at PCGS.

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  • coinkat
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    Attractive look. I think 64 would be reasonable and I would be disappointed with 63. 63+ is definitely in play- good luck with the outcome

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  • coastaljerseyguy
    coastaljerseyguy Posts: 2,129 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Very nice MS64

  • Tramp
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  • MsMorrisine
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    63

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  • jmlanzaf
    jmlanzaf Posts: 43,048 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    63

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  • jacrispies
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    NGC is slightly lenient on GSA submissions, I would say MS-64.

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  • jesbroken
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    Agree with Mark's 63+. Great luster, a few too many marks to 64. JMO
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  • USMarine6
    USMarine6 Posts: 2,113 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Ya certainly a luster bomb I'd give it a 64

  • jfriedm56
    jfriedm56 Posts: 3,101 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Nice looking 64.

  • LeeBone
    LeeBone Posts: 4,891 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    63

  • thebeav
    thebeav Posts: 4,116 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Looks 63.....

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  • Smudge
    Smudge Posts: 10,001 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    63

  • Klif50
    Klif50 Posts: 804 ✭✭✭✭
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    63

  • 124Spider
    124Spider Posts: 1,270 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    1. It looks better than my 63 1881-CC, and not as cleas as my 1883-CC 64+
  • Dave99B
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    63

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  • Rc5280
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    @124Spider said:
    64. It looks better than my 63 1881-CC, and not as cleas as my 1883-CC 64+

    +1

    The OP's beautiful, frosty coin looks every bit, if not better than this 1884 that CACG put a 64+ on the label a few months back...
    .

  • Clackamas1
    Clackamas1 Posts: 1,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    64

  • mattniss
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    I think 63+ is right on the money, but the luster looks like it could push it into 64 on a good day in the grading room. Very little difference in value between 3 and 4 on this one, fortunately for the OP. Very nice coin!

  • BillJones
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    MS-63. The marks on the cheek are too numerous to grade any higher.

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  • logger7
    logger7 Posts: 9,859 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Hard to tell from those pictures. If luster is strong, probably 64.

  • shish
    shish Posts: 1,224 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    MS-64

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  • coinkat
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    After taking a second look, I am slightly more bullish in terms of the grade being a 64 with even a slight shot at 64+. Let me explain… take a real good look at the fields on both sides. The fields are very clean. The frost merely magnifies the contact contrast from other coins while in the bag. The contact does not seem to be deep. In my slightly revised view, I think a 63+ would even be a disappointment.

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  • Cougar1978
    Cougar1978 Posts: 10,067 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    63 plus could be shot at 64

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  • marcmoish
    marcmoish Posts: 6,937 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    64

  • privatecoin
    privatecoin Posts: 3,853 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    63+

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  • DennisH
    DennisH Posts: 14,041 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    63

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  • DesertCoin
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    Tough to grade from the photos, MS63

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  • dhikewhitney
    dhikewhitney Posts: 532 ✭✭✭✭
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    The PCGS price guide has the 63 at $860 and the 64 at $900, a negligible spread so it doesn’t matter without a + or a bean.

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  • ChrisH821
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    I like it as a 64

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  • Gothat3rs
    Gothat3rs Posts: 343 ✭✭✭
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    Thank you for everones opinion always appreciate this forum and our members

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  • blitzdude
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    64 RGDS!

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  • BillJones
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    MS-64+

    WRONG!

    I see pieces with barely a mark on them which are graded MS-64. There are obvious marks on the cheek on this piece.

    If that piece were in an NGC or PCGS MS-64 holder, it would not get a CAC sticker.

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  • 124Spider
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    @Rc5280 said:

    @124Spider said:
    64. It looks better than my 63 1881-CC, and not as cleas as my 1883-CC 64+

    +1

    The OP's beautiful, frosty coin looks every bit, if not better than this 1884 that CACG put a 64+ on the label a few months back...
    .

    Mine

    Another data point, I suppose. Mine were graded by NGC many years ago; probably soon after released by the GSA. Grading standards apparently do change.

  • Rc5280
    Rc5280 Posts: 1,429 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @124Spider said:

    @Rc5280 said:

    @124Spider said:
    64. It looks better than my 63 1881-CC, and not as cleas as my 1883-CC

    Mine

    Another data point, I suppose. Mine were graded by NGC many years ago; probably soon after released by the GSA. Grading standards apparently do change.

    "Mine" you wrote under my posted pic...

    Thank you for your purchase, if that's what you're getting at?
    I had the coin above graded last August and sold it in Sept, if memory serves.

    If not your '84 coin above, sorry for my confusion!

    Yes, grading standards do change, as do grade opinions based on photos...

  • oldglorycoins
    oldglorycoins Posts: 305 ✭✭✭
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    Buy as a 62 sell as a 63

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  • Rc5280
    Rc5280 Posts: 1,429 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @BillJones said:
    MS-64+

    WRONG!

    I see pieces with barely a mark on them which are graded MS-64. There are obvious marks on the cheek on this piece.

    If that piece were in an NGC or PCGS MS-64 holder, it would not get a CAC sticker.

    I'd like to see those MS-64 pieces with barely a mark on them, thanks!

    In the meantime, I've got a couple of PCGS graded GSA's that might grab your attention ⇊ right-click/new-tab for zoom...

    One is a 64, and the other two are 65's. I snapped them with my cheap phone.

    I think it's time for some to take a step back, and realize that the OP has a nicer coin than one might think?

    Some might also perhaps reconsider this notion that a 64 will "barely" have a mark on it, lol.

    Or perhaps, this notion that a reflective/contrasting frost-rub equates to a bag-mark/hit. It doesn't imo, and maybe I'm wrong...
    .

  • cameonut2011
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    I think the services are more liberal on the more common CC issues. I’ll guess they would call it a 64. I’d like it better as a 63.

  • 124Spider
    124Spider Posts: 1,270 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @Rc5280 said:

    @124Spider said:

    @Rc5280 said:

    @124Spider said:
    64. It looks better than my 63 1881-CC, and not as cleas as my 1883-CC

    Mine

    Another data point, I suppose. Mine were graded by NGC many years ago; probably soon after released by the GSA. Grading standards apparently do change.

    "Mine" you wrote under my posted pic...

    Thank you for your purchase, if that's what you're getting at?
    I had the coin above graded last August and sold it in Sept, if memory serves.

    If not your '84 coin above, sorry for my confusion!

    Yes, grading standards do change, as do grade opinions based on photos...

    You lost the thread, apparently. But it doesn't matter....

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