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Just curious about grade opinions on this 81 cc.

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  • Spud2020Spud2020 Posts: 98 ✭✭✭✭

    Luster of a 64. Reverse marks on eagle and obv. neck. My guess 63.

  • TomBTomB Posts: 22,886 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks great, nice and frosty.

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  • pursuitoflibertypursuitofliberty Posts: 7,720 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks like a nice 63, and it seems to have a shot at 4 I think


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  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 16,328 ✭✭✭✭✭

    63+

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  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 31,448 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Ms 63, nice coin 🪙

  • coinbufcoinbuf Posts: 12,345 ✭✭✭✭✭

    63+ is my grade, likely a 64 at PCGS.

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  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 24,241 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Attractive look. I think 64 would be reasonable and I would be disappointed with 63. 63+ is definitely in play- good luck with the outcome

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  • coastaljerseyguycoastaljerseyguy Posts: 2,037 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Very nice MS64

  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 38,670 ✭✭✭✭✭

    63

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 40,336 ✭✭✭✭✭

    63

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  • jacrispiesjacrispies Posts: 1,425 ✭✭✭✭✭

    NGC is slightly lenient on GSA submissions, I would say MS-64.

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  • jesbrokenjesbroken Posts: 11,135 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Agree with Mark's 63+. Great luster, a few too many marks to 64. JMO
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  • USMarine6USMarine6 Posts: 2,046 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Ya certainly a luster bomb I'd give it a 64

  • jfriedm56jfriedm56 Posts: 2,866 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice looking 64.

  • LeeBoneLeeBone Posts: 4,790 ✭✭✭✭✭

    63

  • thebeavthebeav Posts: 4,088 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks 63.....

  • SmudgeSmudge Posts: 9,934 ✭✭✭✭✭

    63

  • Klif50Klif50 Posts: 788 ✭✭✭✭

    63

  • 124Spider124Spider Posts: 1,186 ✭✭✭✭✭
    1. It looks better than my 63 1881-CC, and not as cleas as my 1883-CC 64+
  • Dave99BDave99B Posts: 8,890 ✭✭✭✭✭

    63

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  • Rc5280Rc5280 Posts: 1,206 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @124Spider said:
    64. It looks better than my 63 1881-CC, and not as cleas as my 1883-CC 64+

    +1

    The OP's beautiful, frosty coin looks every bit, if not better than this 1884 that CACG put a 64+ on the label a few months back...
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  • Clackamas1Clackamas1 Posts: 1,689 ✭✭✭✭✭

    64

  • mattnissmattniss Posts: 813 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I think 63+ is right on the money, but the luster looks like it could push it into 64 on a good day in the grading room. Very little difference in value between 3 and 4 on this one, fortunately for the OP. Very nice coin!

  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 35,654 ✭✭✭✭✭

    MS-63. The marks on the cheek are too numerous to grade any higher.

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  • logger7logger7 Posts: 9,515 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Hard to tell from those pictures. If luster is strong, probably 64.

  • shishshish Posts: 1,204 ✭✭✭✭✭

    MS-64

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  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 24,241 ✭✭✭✭✭

    After taking a second look, I am slightly more bullish in terms of the grade being a 64 with even a slight shot at 64+. Let me explain… take a real good look at the fields on both sides. The fields are very clean. The frost merely magnifies the contact contrast from other coins while in the bag. The contact does not seem to be deep. In my slightly revised view, I think a 63+ would even be a disappointment.

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  • Cougar1978Cougar1978 Posts: 9,573 ✭✭✭✭✭

    63 plus could be shot at 64

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  • marcmoishmarcmoish Posts: 6,877 ✭✭✭✭✭

    64

  • privatecoinprivatecoin Posts: 3,737 ✭✭✭✭✭

    63+

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  • DennisHDennisH Posts: 14,040 ✭✭✭✭✭

    63

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  • DesertCoinDesertCoin Posts: 288 ✭✭✭

    Tough to grade from the photos, MS63

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  • dhikewhitneydhikewhitney Posts: 527 ✭✭✭✭

    The PCGS price guide has the 63 at $860 and the 64 at $900, a negligible spread so it doesn’t matter without a + or a bean.

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  • ChrisH821ChrisH821 Posts: 7,021 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I like it as a 64

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  • Gothat3rsGothat3rs Posts: 238 ✭✭✭

    Thank you for everones opinion always appreciate this forum and our members

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  • blitzdudeblitzdude Posts: 7,565 ✭✭✭✭✭

    64 RGDS!

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  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 35,654 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 23, 2026 6:26PM

    MS-64+

    WRONG!

    I see pieces with barely a mark on them which are graded MS-64. There are obvious marks on the cheek on this piece.

    If that piece were in an NGC or PCGS MS-64 holder, it would not get a CAC sticker.

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  • 124Spider124Spider Posts: 1,186 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Rc5280 said:

    @124Spider said:
    64. It looks better than my 63 1881-CC, and not as cleas as my 1883-CC 64+

    +1

    The OP's beautiful, frosty coin looks every bit, if not better than this 1884 that CACG put a 64+ on the label a few months back...
    .

    Mine

    Another data point, I suppose. Mine were graded by NGC many years ago; probably soon after released by the GSA. Grading standards apparently do change.

  • Rc5280Rc5280 Posts: 1,206 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @124Spider said:

    @Rc5280 said:

    @124Spider said:
    64. It looks better than my 63 1881-CC, and not as cleas as my 1883-CC

    Mine

    Another data point, I suppose. Mine were graded by NGC many years ago; probably soon after released by the GSA. Grading standards apparently do change.

    "Mine" you wrote under my posted pic...

    Thank you for your purchase, if that's what you're getting at?
    I had the coin above graded last August and sold it in Sept, if memory serves.

    If not your '84 coin above, sorry for my confusion!

    Yes, grading standards do change, as do grade opinions based on photos...

  • oldglorycoinsoldglorycoins Posts: 245 ✭✭✭

    Buy as a 62 sell as a 63

  • Rc5280Rc5280 Posts: 1,206 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BillJones said:
    MS-64+

    WRONG!

    I see pieces with barely a mark on them which are graded MS-64. There are obvious marks on the cheek on this piece.

    If that piece were in an NGC or PCGS MS-64 holder, it would not get a CAC sticker.

    I'd like to see those MS-64 pieces with barely a mark on them, thanks!

    In the meantime, I've got a couple of PCGS graded GSA's that might grab your attention ⇊ right-click/new-tab for zoom...

    One is a 64, and the other two are 65's. I snapped them with my cheap phone.

    I think it's time for some to take a step back, and realize that the OP has a nicer coin than one might think?

    Some might also perhaps reconsider this notion that a 64 will "barely" have a mark on it, lol.

    Or perhaps, this notion that a reflective/contrasting frost-rub equates to a bag-mark/hit. It doesn't imo, and maybe I'm wrong...
    .

  • cameonut2011cameonut2011 Posts: 10,438 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I think the services are more liberal on the more common CC issues. I’ll guess they would call it a 64. I’d like it better as a 63.

  • 124Spider124Spider Posts: 1,186 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Rc5280 said:

    @124Spider said:

    @Rc5280 said:

    @124Spider said:
    64. It looks better than my 63 1881-CC, and not as cleas as my 1883-CC

    Mine

    Another data point, I suppose. Mine were graded by NGC many years ago; probably soon after released by the GSA. Grading standards apparently do change.

    "Mine" you wrote under my posted pic...

    Thank you for your purchase, if that's what you're getting at?
    I had the coin above graded last August and sold it in Sept, if memory serves.

    If not your '84 coin above, sorry for my confusion!

    Yes, grading standards do change, as do grade opinions based on photos...

    You lost the thread, apparently. But it doesn't matter....

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