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The Official PCGS White Label Rattler Census --- 71 listed as of 11/22/19

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  • sniocsusniocsu Posts: 1,291 ✭✭✭

    Very nice!

  • pointfivezeropointfivezero Posts: 1,883 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @bammbamm said:
    Thanks for the welcome, Tim. This thread, and the Old Slab Holders website are very useful resources. The PCGS Museum of Coin Holders was a good start, but it doesn't contain the amount of researched detail about each generation that the Old Slab Holders website has. That site and this thread of actual collectors of PCGS White Label holders gave me confirmation that what I recently found and purchased was indeed a PCGS White Label Generation 1.1. So I am now the proud owner on one also.

    Very true. I don't think there is a better source of experienced collectors than this forum and John @86Saab is right up there among the most knowledgeable on all things old holder related.

    Tim

  • Morgan WhiteMorgan White Posts: 9,186 ✭✭✭✭✭

  • bammbammbammbamm Posts: 42 ✭✭✭

    No putty on my 1932 $10 Indian: #1082102. Just poor lighting reflecting off of the coin in my photo showing the slab. (I was focusing on getting a good clear photo of the important white label.) The coin definitely has some coloration (toning) and stains though. Probably caused by sitting decades in a bag in a damp, musty cellar vault of a European bank before being repatriated. I like that its owner in February 1986, chose not to dip the coin before having it encapsulated by PCGS back during the company's first week or two of operation. I like the originality of its skin -- it's got character. Here are obverse and reverse photos of the coin itself.


  • coinguy82coinguy82 Posts: 53 ✭✭✭
    edited March 23, 2025 6:54PM

  • pointfivezeropointfivezero Posts: 1,883 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 23, 2025 12:51PM

    @coinguy82 said:

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    Wow, is all I can say now. And I had just deleted my PCGS Rattler saved search a couple days ago.

    Tim

  • davewesendavewesen Posts: 6,673 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I wonder how many minutes it took that BIN to be hit?

  • Sandman70gtSandman70gt Posts: 1,024 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @davewesen said:
    I wonder how many minutes it took that BIN to be hit?

    It was less than 5 minutes

    Bst transactions with: dimeman, oih82w8, mercurydimeguy, dunerlaw, Lakesammman, 2ltdjorn, MattTheRiley, dpvilla, drddm, CommemKing, Relaxn, Yorkshireman, Cucamongacoin, jtlee321, greencopper, coin22lover, coinfolio, lindedad, spummybum, Leeroybrown, flackthat, BryceM, Surfinxhi, VanHalen, astrorat, robkool, Wingsrule, PennyGuy, al410, Ilikecolor, Southcounty, Namvet69, Commemdude, oreville, Leebone, Rob41281, clarkbar04, cactusjack55, Collectorcoins, sniocsu, coin finder

  • Sandman70gtSandman70gt Posts: 1,024 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Another Saint for the census

    Alot of watchers on this one.
    Congrats to new owner
    B)

    Bst transactions with: dimeman, oih82w8, mercurydimeguy, dunerlaw, Lakesammman, 2ltdjorn, MattTheRiley, dpvilla, drddm, CommemKing, Relaxn, Yorkshireman, Cucamongacoin, jtlee321, greencopper, coin22lover, coinfolio, lindedad, spummybum, Leeroybrown, flackthat, BryceM, Surfinxhi, VanHalen, astrorat, robkool, Wingsrule, PennyGuy, al410, Ilikecolor, Southcounty, Namvet69, Commemdude, oreville, Leebone, Rob41281, clarkbar04, cactusjack55, Collectorcoins, sniocsu, coin finder

  • bammbammbammbamm Posts: 42 ✭✭✭

    Wow, nice sum for an otherwise common date $20 Saint. Impressive the premiums that PCGS White Labels bring, and interesting that there were 36 collectors (bidders) interested in the coin.

  • LewLew Posts: 171 ✭✭✭

    The early discussion was about 1080 and 1081
    The discussion has moved to 1082.
    Is anyone keeping track od the 1082?
    What is the highest 1082 found so far?
    .

  • bammbammbammbamm Posts: 42 ✭✭✭

    @Lew said:
    The early discussion was about 1080 and 1081
    The discussion has moved to 1082.
    Is anyone keeping track od the 1082?
    What is the highest 1082 found so far?
    .

    Yes, it's all in the oldslabholders.com census. The highest known White Label Gen. 1.1 is #1082378.

  • bammbammbammbamm Posts: 42 ✭✭✭

    Nothing new posted on this thread for a while. But here's something that will get everyone's interest. The earliest number PCGS Gen 1.0 now known according to the census: PCGS 1080017. At Great Collections. It will be interesting to see what this goes for.

    https://www.greatcollections.com/Coin/1850790/1881-S-Morgan-Silver-Dollar-PCGS-MS-63-CAC-Green-Toned-OGH-1st-Gen--White-Rattler

  • 1peter12231peter1223 Posts: 140 ✭✭✭
    edited August 10, 2025 6:03PM

    I knew it would go for a lot of $ but $119K ? WOW !

  • bammbammbammbamm Posts: 42 ✭✭✭

    I am absolutely stunned.

  • Sandman70gtSandman70gt Posts: 1,024 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I too am stunned 😲
    What will it be worth if another white label w/ lower cert number makes it way to auction?

    Congratulations to the seller and new owner!!

    Sandman B)

    Bst transactions with: dimeman, oih82w8, mercurydimeguy, dunerlaw, Lakesammman, 2ltdjorn, MattTheRiley, dpvilla, drddm, CommemKing, Relaxn, Yorkshireman, Cucamongacoin, jtlee321, greencopper, coin22lover, coinfolio, lindedad, spummybum, Leeroybrown, flackthat, BryceM, Surfinxhi, VanHalen, astrorat, robkool, Wingsrule, PennyGuy, al410, Ilikecolor, Southcounty, Namvet69, Commemdude, oreville, Leebone, Rob41281, clarkbar04, cactusjack55, Collectorcoins, sniocsu, coin finder

  • illini420illini420 Posts: 11,467 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Very strong price... some people just have too much money, right? Ha!!! Congrats to the seller for sure!!!

    Was watching this one the last few weeks... anyone else wonder about Great Collections putting in the listing that it was the 17th coin graded by PCGS? I know we've thought for awhile now these were the first and presumably graded in order starting at 1080001, but was there ever any public verification of that by anyone at PCGS?

    I asked GC about their listing description a couple weeks ago and they said they "had confirmation that PCGS started with 108xxxx for reasons unknown today."

    I suppose that's good enough, but would be nice to know what sort of confirmation and form whom? But I didn't press it any further as I wasn't going to be the top bidder.

    I think the likely reason they started with 108**** was the David Hall flips that had lower 7-digit serial numbers, right?

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