~Guess The Grade Roulette~

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  • Coinbert
    Coinbert Posts: 761 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    VF 30

  • pcgsregistrycollector
    pcgsregistrycollector Posts: 2,325 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Four Owe

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  • lkenefic
    lkenefic Posts: 9,518 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    My first thought was 30 or 35... those are taken... so, XF45?

    Collecting: Dansco 7070; Middle Date Large Cents (VF-AU); Box of 20;

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  • Copperindian
    Copperindian Posts: 3,374 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    AU50

    “The thrill of the hunt never gets old”

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  • TPRC
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    Keep in mind it is from ATS

    Tom

  • Smudge
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    55 on the beaver.

  • PeakRarities
    PeakRarities Posts: 4,858 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 26, 2025 1:50PM
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    @Copperindian said:
    AU50

    Winner!

    Though 50 is the technical winning guess, this is a coin that I bought as a knowingly overgraded coin. I'd say that guesses of either 40 or 45 are actually "correct" , and I'm pretty this coin would sticker as an XF. It simply doesn't have enough obverse luster to be a true AU. If you wanted to be strictly technical, 40 would work, but I think the coin deserves a bump to 45 for being problem free and original without any significant appeal distractions or planchet problems. The production quality of these coins is so woefully poor, I've found that a decent way to graded these is to grade it as if it were a regular US issue coin, and then add two whole grades. IE 35 -> 45 , 53 -> 58, 60 -> 62. When you look at all of the APRs, you'll see what I mean.

    @Rc5280 - The example last night was pretty appealing for a no grade, and I wouldn't be completely shocked to see it in an NGC holder as a 35/40 down the road. It has the details of a Choice XF, but I would imagine it would be netted somewhat for the clean surfaces and the hairlines. I never got to see it in hand, and I think it might have a small repair at 12:00, but overall It's really not all that bad for what's out there, and a problem free coin with the same details would cost 3x as much. I was expecting somewhere between 35-40, and I was planning to throw a dart at it if it stayed in that range, but 46k seemed like "all the money" to me, and I think the fact that it lacked a details reason and just said "Genuine" actually bolsters the desirability. Thin pool of buyers for details coin buyers at near 50k levels, and I'd have trouble cracking that one out. Regardless, the issue is exceedingly rare and most are tucked away for the long haul, so congrats to the new owner on securing one of the most high demand and elusive issues in pioneer.

    Ok @copperindian, you're up

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  • Coinscratch
    Coinscratch Posts: 11,086 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 26, 2025 3:53PM
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    B)

  • Copperindian
    Copperindian Posts: 3,374 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    “The thrill of the hunt never gets old”

    PCGS Registry: Screaming Eagles
    Copperindian
    Copperindian II
    Indy Eagles
    Gold Rush
    Bust Caps

    Retired sets: Soaring Eagles
    Copperindian
    Nickelodeon
    Early Walkers

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  • Coinscratch
    Coinscratch Posts: 11,086 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    MS66RB

  • Smudge
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    66BN

  • Rc5280
    Rc5280 Posts: 1,426 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    67RB

  • pcgsregistrycollector
    pcgsregistrycollector Posts: 2,325 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    66+ BN

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  • PeakRarities
    PeakRarities Posts: 4,858 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    66+ RB

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  • Coinscratch
    Coinscratch Posts: 11,086 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    MS67+RB

  • Coinbert
    Coinbert Posts: 761 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    MS 67BN

  • Davidk7
    Davidk7 Posts: 675 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    65+ BN but not my first or second guess.

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  • marcmoish
    marcmoish Posts: 6,936 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    64RB

  • lkenefic
    lkenefic Posts: 9,518 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    PR65RB...

    Collecting: Dansco 7070; Middle Date Large Cents (VF-AU); Box of 20;

    Successful BST transactions with: SilverEagles92; Ahrensdad; Smitty; GregHansen; Lablade; Mercury10c; copperflopper; whatsup; KISHU1; scrapman1077, crispy, canadanz, smallchange, robkool, Mission16, ranshdow, ibzman350, Fallguy, Collectorcoins, SurfinxHI, jwitten, Walkerguy21D, dsessom.
  • Clackamas1
    Clackamas1 Posts: 1,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    PF66RB

  • JeffersonFrog
    JeffersonFrog Posts: 1,183 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    PF65BN

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  • Copperindian
    Copperindian Posts: 3,374 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Looks like this was a tough one:

    I’m about to catch a flight so I won’t be able to monitor for about 6-7 hours. I’ll give up my turn to someone else….how about you @jfriedm56?

    “The thrill of the hunt never gets old”

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  • Coinscratch
    Coinscratch Posts: 11,086 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    That's the nicest 64+ I've ever seen!
    Even mistaken for a proof.

  • pcgsregistrycollector
    pcgsregistrycollector Posts: 2,325 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @Copperindian said:
    Looks like this was a tough one:

    I’m about to catch a flight so I won’t be able to monitor for about 6-7 hours. I’ll give up my turn to someone else….how about you @jfriedm56?

    That should be at least a 65. Have a good flight!

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  • jfriedm56
    jfriedm56 Posts: 3,101 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @Copperindian, ok, thanks Ken. Let’s have a go at this one.

  • Rc5280
    Rc5280 Posts: 1,426 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    MS63 w/Gold CAC

  • Coinscratch
    Coinscratch Posts: 11,086 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    MS64

  • lkenefic
    lkenefic Posts: 9,518 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    MS65+

    Collecting: Dansco 7070; Middle Date Large Cents (VF-AU); Box of 20;

    Successful BST transactions with: SilverEagles92; Ahrensdad; Smitty; GregHansen; Lablade; Mercury10c; copperflopper; whatsup; KISHU1; scrapman1077, crispy, canadanz, smallchange, robkool, Mission16, ranshdow, ibzman350, Fallguy, Collectorcoins, SurfinxHI, jwitten, Walkerguy21D, dsessom.
  • Cougar1978
    Cougar1978 Posts: 10,067 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    MS64

    Investor
  • marcmoish
    marcmoish Posts: 6,936 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    MS63 (no bean) :#

  • Smudge
    Smudge Posts: 10,001 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 27, 2025 5:16PM
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    63+ or*

  • Clackamas1
    Clackamas1 Posts: 1,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    65

  • jfriedm56
    jfriedm56 Posts: 3,101 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @Clackamas1, correct. You’re next.

  • Cougar1978
    Cougar1978 Posts: 10,067 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 27, 2025 9:51PM
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    Never saw that coming simply a C coin? Kind of hazy. Pass

    Investor
  • Clackamas1
    Clackamas1 Posts: 1,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 27, 2025 10:15PM
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    Here is a fun one.
    ~~~~

  • Rc5280
    Rc5280 Posts: 1,426 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    MS62

  • Clackamas1
    Clackamas1 Posts: 1,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @Rc5280 said:
    MS62

    62 CAC. You got it. You are up.

  • Rc5280
    Rc5280 Posts: 1,426 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Wow thanks!
    It was tough to balance out the condition between the obverse vs reverse.

    Here we go...

  • Coinbert
    Coinbert Posts: 761 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 28, 2025 5:39AM
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    MS 67 Red Edited to add color.

  • Coinscratch
    Coinscratch Posts: 11,086 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 28, 2025 7:16AM
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    MS65RD

    Edit for the extra V next to the initials.

  • Copperindian
    Copperindian Posts: 3,374 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    MS66+RD

    “The thrill of the hunt never gets old”

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    Copperindian
    Copperindian II
    Indy Eagles
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    Bust Caps

    Retired sets: Soaring Eagles
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  • Clackamas1
    Clackamas1 Posts: 1,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    64RD

  • marcmoish
    marcmoish Posts: 6,936 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    66RD

  • pcgsregistrycollector
    pcgsregistrycollector Posts: 2,325 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    67 RD

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  • Rc5280
    Rc5280 Posts: 1,426 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    No correct guess yet. Yes, it is the Extra "V" variety. Right click - open image in new tab for hi rez image.

    Photo bump...

  • Smudge
    Smudge Posts: 10,001 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    65+RD

  • pcgsregistrycollector
    pcgsregistrycollector Posts: 2,325 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    67+

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