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  • PeakRaritiesPeakRarities Posts: 4,528 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @pcgsregistrycollector said:

    @PeakRarities said:
    @pcgsregistrycollector you got it on your second try so I'm not sure how the rules are supposed work, but I don't know if that qualifies as a "win" per se , so I'm just gonna post another coin :D

    But yes, 64+ DCAM CAC with rich original toning, coin is borderline gem but probably wouldn't look out of place in a 65dcam holder. Pop 1/3 at pcgs, this color on proof gold drives me nuts.

    https://player.vimeo.com/video/1037651889

    Edit: Lame, I guess Vimeo no longer works with the forum software :(

    My bad for violating the rules. My new guess is 55.

    lol idk what the rules are, I just figured it was a good excuse for me to post another coin 😅.

    But this time you win!

    AU55 CAC, CAC pop 2/2 with 61 being the highest with CAC approval. There’s many of these out there in low unc holders that essentially are the dipped version of this coin. This one is the crustiest and most original I have seen, personally.

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  • pcgsregistrycollectorpcgsregistrycollector Posts: 1,378 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @PeakRarities said:

    @pcgsregistrycollector said:

    @PeakRarities said:
    @pcgsregistrycollector you got it on your second try so I'm not sure how the rules are supposed work, but I don't know if that qualifies as a "win" per se , so I'm just gonna post another coin :D

    Yay! Nice piece of gold BTW. Here's the coin:


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  • Rc5280Rc5280 Posts: 493 ✭✭✭✭

    MS67

  • alaura22alaura22 Posts: 3,554 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @PeakRarities said:

    @pcgsregistrycollector said:

    @PeakRarities said:
    @pcgsregistrycollector you got it on your second try so I'm not sure how the rules are supposed work, but I don't know if that qualifies as a "win" per se , so I'm just gonna post another coin :D

    But yes, 64+ DCAM CAC with rich original toning, coin is borderline gem but probably wouldn't look out of place in a 65dcam holder. Pop 1/3 at pcgs, this color on proof gold drives me nuts.

    https://player.vimeo.com/video/1037651889

    Edit: Lame, I guess Vimeo no longer works with the forum software :(

    My bad for violating the rules. My new guess is 55.

    lol idk what the rules are, I just figured it was a good excuse for me to post another coin 😅.

    But this time you win!

    AU55 CAC, CAC pop 2/2 with 61 being the highest with CAC approval. There’s many of these out there in low unc holders that essentially are the dipped version of this coin. This one is the crustiest and most original I have seen, personally.

    Dan, how come the cert don't work?

  • PeakRaritiesPeakRarities Posts: 4,528 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @alaura22 said:

    @PeakRarities said:

    @pcgsregistrycollector said:

    @PeakRarities said:
    @pcgsregistrycollector you got it on your second try so I'm not sure how the rules are supposed work, but I don't know if that qualifies as a "win" per se , so I'm just gonna post another coin :D

    But yes, 64+ DCAM CAC with rich original toning, coin is borderline gem but probably wouldn't look out of place in a 65dcam holder. Pop 1/3 at pcgs, this color on proof gold drives me nuts.

    https://player.vimeo.com/video/1037651889

    Edit: Lame, I guess Vimeo no longer works with the forum software :(

    My bad for violating the rules. My new guess is 55.

    lol idk what the rules are, I just figured it was a good excuse for me to post another coin 😅.

    But this time you win!

    AU55 CAC, CAC pop 2/2 with 61 being the highest with CAC approval. There’s many of these out there in low unc holders that essentially are the dipped version of this coin. This one is the crustiest and most original I have seen, personally.

    Dan, how come the cert don't work?

    New cert, holder Was ratty and I wanted a TV so had it regraded since the cost is the same as a reholder when the guide is over 100k , $300. Coin has the detail of a 58, thought maybe they'd 55+ it but the coin isn't bright enough evidently...Hasnt been back sticker land yet.

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  • PeakRaritiesPeakRarities Posts: 4,528 ✭✭✭✭✭

    MS66 for the quarter

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  • pcgsregistrycollectorpcgsregistrycollector Posts: 1,378 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 21, 2025 10:56PM

    @PeakRarities said:
    MS66 for the quarter

    You got it @PeakRarities

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  • PeakRaritiesPeakRarities Posts: 4,528 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Were on 🔥,ok here's a recent upgrade lets see what you guys got...

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  • Rc5280Rc5280 Posts: 493 ✭✭✭✭

    After picking up my jaw from my desk, I'll go with an MS63 this go around. Those have to be a bear to grade, given the period, and the crudeness(in a good way)in which they were made for their community/region.

  • alaura22alaura22 Posts: 3,554 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Living in Utah I wish I could find one of these :o
    AU-50

  • johnhenry9009johnhenry9009 Posts: 289 ✭✭✭✭

    AU 53

  • jfriedm56jfriedm56 Posts: 2,011 ✭✭✭✭✭

    MS62

  • CoinscratchCoinscratch Posts: 9,754 ✭✭✭✭✭

    MS65 though I want to say 66.

  • PeakRaritiesPeakRarities Posts: 4,528 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Someone may or may not have guessed correctly, but I'd like to see some more guesses. Im going to put it out there that these are two other examples graded around the same time, in fact they're graded sequentially at the same time, by the same graders.

    I own this coin as well currently, this one is graded AU-50

    This coin is graded XF-45, I do not own this coin.

    Do with that information as you will. :)

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  • PeakRaritiesPeakRarities Posts: 4,528 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'll allow guess changes now that I've added new information, just so it's fair for all.

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  • CoinscratchCoinscratch Posts: 9,754 ✭✭✭✭✭

    MS66

  • SmudgeSmudge Posts: 9,809 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 22, 2025 8:45AM

    64

  • marcmoishmarcmoish Posts: 6,621 ✭✭✭✭✭

    MS63

  • Rc5280Rc5280 Posts: 493 ✭✭✭✭

    MS64+

  • CoinbertCoinbert Posts: 504 ✭✭✭✭✭

    MS 63

  • jfriedm56jfriedm56 Posts: 2,011 ✭✭✭✭✭

    MS65+

  • CoinbertCoinbert Posts: 504 ✭✭✭✭✭

    MS 63 was already taken

  • crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 14,055 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 22, 2025 11:25AM

    63+

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  • lkeneficlkenefic Posts: 8,544 ✭✭✭✭✭

    AU58

    Collecting: Dansco 7070; Middle Date Large Cents (VF-AU); Box of 20;

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  • PeakRaritiesPeakRarities Posts: 4,528 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Ok, sorry everyone, I meant to do the reveal earlier but I played down for a nap that went longer than expected.

    The winner is @johnhenry9009 with a guess of_ AU-53_

    I actually haven't seen either of the one's I bought in hand yet, but I plan to add the AU-53 to my collection. Based on the photos, it's one of the most attractive examples I've seen, and it looks like it's conservatively graded. What's interesting is that these 3 examples were all graded together, and with a range of XF-45 - AU53, one might be a bit surprised with the narrow variance. The 53 has one of the best strikes I've seen, these often have a misaligned strike and have substantial weakness near the rim.

    I will post a thread when I have the coin in hand, and give a thorough opinion with pics and videos, but I probably would have guessed no less than Au-55 or 58 if playing GTG, and I likely would have under guessed on the third coin. Interestingly, they decided to holder the 53 the correct woriantation, but the other two were photographed and holdered with the reverse facing forward, which seems to be a common and unpredictable practice with pioneer gold.

    Grading of Mormon could be especially difficult with the wide variance in quality, and the coins have to be graded by their luster and fields more so than flatness on the high points. PCGS shows only two coins in unc grades, one in MS-61 and one in MS-62, and CAC has not approved any above AU-58. Trying to grade these coins from photos is a fool's errand I suppose, and I understand why there would be plenty of guesses all over the map. Thanks for playing, and @johnhenry9009 you,re up :).

    AU-53

    AU-50

    XF-45

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  • johnhenry9009johnhenry9009 Posts: 289 ✭✭✭✭

    Thanks @PeakRarities and beautiful AU 50 and 53 Mormon


  • Rc5280Rc5280 Posts: 493 ✭✭✭✭

    MS66

  • CoinscratchCoinscratch Posts: 9,754 ✭✭✭✭✭

    MS65

  • PeakRaritiesPeakRarities Posts: 4,528 ✭✭✭✭✭

    MS64

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  • pcgsregistrycollectorpcgsregistrycollector Posts: 1,378 ✭✭✭✭✭

    63

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  • jfriedm56jfriedm56 Posts: 2,011 ✭✭✭✭✭

    MS62 with a fingerprint.

  • johnhenry9009johnhenry9009 Posts: 289 ✭✭✭✭

    @PeakRarities said:
    MS64

    great guess and your up @PeakRarities .

  • PeakRaritiesPeakRarities Posts: 4,528 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 23, 2025 5:58AM

    @johnhenry9009 said:

    great guess and your up @PeakRarities


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  • jfriedm56jfriedm56 Posts: 2,011 ✭✭✭✭✭

    XF 40

  • pcgsregistrycollectorpcgsregistrycollector Posts: 1,378 ✭✭✭✭✭

    30

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  • marcmoishmarcmoish Posts: 6,621 ✭✭✭✭✭

    F12

  • lkeneficlkenefic Posts: 8,544 ✭✭✭✭✭

    WAG here... XF45.

    Collecting: Dansco 7070; Middle Date Large Cents (VF-AU); Box of 20;

    Successful BST transactions with: SilverEagles92; Ahrensdad; Smitty; GregHansen; Lablade; Mercury10c; copperflopper; whatsup; KISHU1; scrapman1077, crispy, canadanz, smallchange, robkool, Mission16, ranshdow, ibzman350, Fallguy, Collectorcoins, SurfinxHI, jwitten, Walkerguy21D, dsessom.
  • Cougar1978Cougar1978 Posts: 8,759 ✭✭✭✭✭

    MS64 for the 1953-S quarter

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  • CoinbertCoinbert Posts: 504 ✭✭✭✭✭

    AU 50

  • pcgsregistrycollectorpcgsregistrycollector Posts: 1,378 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Cougar1978 said:
    MS64 for the 1953-S quarter

    Where is that?

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  • PeakRaritiesPeakRarities Posts: 4,528 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @lkenefic said:
    WAG here... XF45.

    Bingo!

    These are tough, the strike quality is terrible and this coin has a reverse that only a father could love....nice job, you're up now.

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  • lkeneficlkenefic Posts: 8,544 ✭✭✭✭✭

    ...maybe I should play The Lottery! ;-)

    ...in-hand:

    Collecting: Dansco 7070; Middle Date Large Cents (VF-AU); Box of 20;

    Successful BST transactions with: SilverEagles92; Ahrensdad; Smitty; GregHansen; Lablade; Mercury10c; copperflopper; whatsup; KISHU1; scrapman1077, crispy, canadanz, smallchange, robkool, Mission16, ranshdow, ibzman350, Fallguy, Collectorcoins, SurfinxHI, jwitten, Walkerguy21D, dsessom.
  • CoinbertCoinbert Posts: 504 ✭✭✭✭✭

    VF 35

  • PeakRaritiesPeakRarities Posts: 4,528 ✭✭✭✭✭

    xf40

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  • marcmoishmarcmoish Posts: 6,621 ✭✭✭✭✭

    VF30

  • jfriedm56jfriedm56 Posts: 2,011 ✭✭✭✭✭

    VF25

  • lkeneficlkenefic Posts: 8,544 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @marcmoish said:
    VF30

    Winner!

    Collecting: Dansco 7070; Middle Date Large Cents (VF-AU); Box of 20;

    Successful BST transactions with: SilverEagles92; Ahrensdad; Smitty; GregHansen; Lablade; Mercury10c; copperflopper; whatsup; KISHU1; scrapman1077, crispy, canadanz, smallchange, robkool, Mission16, ranshdow, ibzman350, Fallguy, Collectorcoins, SurfinxHI, jwitten, Walkerguy21D, dsessom.
  • Davidk7Davidk7 Posts: 526 ✭✭✭✭

    I'm not going to even bother guessing considering all the logical grades were said already :D I would have said 35, looks a bit sharper than the VF30 I owned. Nice O-109!

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  • marcmoishmarcmoish Posts: 6,621 ✭✭✭✭✭

  • johnhenry9009johnhenry9009 Posts: 289 ✭✭✭✭

    PR 64 Cam

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