Tim, why do you think it would come back details? Could it be Eniv. Damage because of all the crust.I'm curious why you think so.I have no experience with dipping at all so would a dip in diluted acetone clean some of that up(off) I hope more chime in!
@Redglobe said:
Tim, why do you think it would come back details? Could it be Eniv. Damage because of all the crust.I'm curious why you think so.I have no experience with dipping at all so would a dip in diluted acetone clean some of that up(off) I hope more chime in!
Has nothing to do with gunk and crust. It has everything to do with whether they noticed someone did some horizontal wiping across the mintmark. Everything else is fine. The photo I have doesn't pick it up to where you see it.
A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.
The full coin photo shows rubbing,scraping of some manner hence the discoloration on the left of the mint mark in the field,also under the left side wing.A few off color area's on the coin stick out.If I sent that in(which I would)it would probably not straight grade.You don't know until you send it in.Good luck with the coin Tim!
@Redglobe said:
Two real nice coins Tim,that PGA should get at least AU50
The PGA came out of another off-the-wall auction. I grabbed it because it was AU AND ctr. MM which is rare in AU. I wouldn't be surprised if it came back DETAILS grade.
Fantastic. You just never see the Center Mintmark. Super tough grade and centered MM. Well done!
If you look at the early years the “hole” was there but not nearly as pronounced. Over the years the Hub was altered, eliminating the space between the leaves. The “post” on the die remained, creating a hole.
Ooops, I have been looking for an upgrade to my current (fine graded) example for a while, and when this one showed up I was really attracted to the originality of the look.
Where are all the proofs on this thread! This one really has outstanding mirrors, and excellent frost on the devices...must have been an early strike. DCAM's all but disappear after 1901.
I just packed this gorgeous gal up for her trip to Peoria. I'm gonna miss her! I hate to see her go, but I know she'll be well looked after and maybe even get a new blue dress. (Sent in for a crossover) Notice the crooked D mint mark too.
@jedm Jed, I'll give it my macro imaging touch when it arrives! then reshare it on this thread.
@erwindoc Jason, you certainly have a lot of reflective luster in that grouping of pick-ups! The '06-D Quarter certainly has some neat toning flake splatter all over with a great periphery! You will have to share more on your thoughts later on what the '00-S dime looks like once in hand. I'll bet it is not as subdued as that digital picture portrays. Thanks for sharing! awesome!
@Eldorado9 Thanks for the kudos on the '13-D. I have another one that has more toning so that '13-D will be a dupe to the following coin:
1913-D Barber Half PCGS AU58
This one is in an older holder when comparing to the previous one...
Tim
A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.
@JeffMTampa said:
The “post” on the die remained, creating a hole.
Could you expand your explanation a little more? The "post?"
The original design of the coin reverse had leaves layered on top of each other in the area of question. The "hole" was connected to a valley, creating the overlapping leaves motif:
1892 P Mint Dime
1899 P Mint Dime
From 1892 thru 1899 the reverse of all dimes from all mints looked like the examples shown. All dies were made from the same Master Hub in Philadelphia. In 1900 there were Hub changes made to the Barber series; the dimes included. Call it a "makeover". In the process of revamping the Dime reverse the concept of overlapping leaves was lost in the area of question:
1900 S Mint Dime
1915 S Mint Dime
As one can see a "hole" now shows. What really happened is someone that didn't understand the design and re-engraved that area. The "valley" connected to the hole was now lost (which created the overlapping leaves design). The area now became very odd looking, the "hole" disjointed serving no purpose. All mints had the same design features as they came from the Master Hub. Any mints reverse could have been chosen as examples (I randomly chose).
The "post" previously referred to is on the die. The "hole" was created by a raised "post" element on the die striking the planchet, creating the "hole".
@jedm said:
Nice '16 Tim! @sedulous - Were you hoping to get an XF 45 from PCGS for your set?
Answer: yes. Fortunately, I already have an XF45 for the '16-P. However, does anyone have an XF45 for the '16-D? I only have an XF40 in PCGS holder for that one.
Edit: you think it would be easy to find, but alas, no.
A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.
@jedm said:
Nice '16 Tim! @sedulous - Were you hoping to get an XF 45 from PCGS for your set?
Answer: yes. Fortunately, I already have an XF45 for the '16-P. However, does anyone have an XF45 for the '16-D? I only have an XF40 in PCGS holder for that one.
Edit: you think it would be easy to find, but alas, no.
Here is my other '16-P in PC45... as a follow-up to the previous post:
Tim
A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.
Picked up a 1911 Lib Nickel today, VF Raw. I have a Capital Plastics holder for the Lib Nickels I thought would make a nice display VF/XF-ish. It is out of my LCS:
A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.
The "post" previously referred to is on the die. The "hole" was created by a raised "post" element on the die striking the planchet, creating the "hole".
I really appreciated your explanation. Could you further explain what was the "raised post element on the die?"
The die has the exact opposite characteristics of the struck coin. A “hole” in the relief means the die has the exact opposite characteristics; a “post’”.
@JeffMTampa said:
The die has the exact opposite characteristics of the struck coin. A “hole” in the relief means the die has the exact opposite characteristics; a “post’”.
Sorry to keep asking. What is a post? A foreign object that fell on the die or a "tool" that held the die in place?
Comments
@Redglobe has sent me a '10-D PCGS in XF45 I was just able to image. It arrived this afternoon.
Nice coin!
A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.
Tim, why do you think it would come back details? Could it be Eniv. Damage because of all the crust.I'm curious why you think so.I have no experience with dipping at all so would a dip in diluted acetone clean some of that up(off) I hope more chime in!
With your fine photography I just noticed a die crack on the reverse of the 10-D up by the unum banner and the right wingtip.
Has nothing to do with gunk and crust. It has everything to do with whether they noticed someone did some horizontal wiping across the mintmark. Everything else is fine. The photo I have doesn't pick it up to where you see it.
A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.
Here’s a photo of the MM on the 1897 S BQ Tim is referring to:
Good luck with it Tim!
The full coin photo shows rubbing,scraping of some manner hence the discoloration on the left of the mint mark in the field,also under the left side wing.A few off color area's on the coin stick out.If I sent that in(which I would)it would probably not straight grade.You don't know until you send it in.Good luck with the coin Tim!
Fantastic. You just never see the Center Mintmark. Super tough grade and centered MM. Well done!
Great to own whether the coin has been cleaned or not. RARE!
Here is another LCS find out of 90%. One that @JeffMTampa knows very well, an inverted mintmark:
A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.
Out of that batch obtained from my LCS, this was my favorite. Just a pleasant coin in my view.
1901-P Barber Half VF Raw
A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.
Has anyone noticed the "hole" in the leaf on the lower right side of "P" mint Barber dimes? I'm just discovering two.
Interesting, no I haven't
A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.
If you look at the early years the “hole” was there but not nearly as pronounced. Over the years the Hub was altered, eliminating the space between the leaves. The “post” on the die remained, creating a hole.
Sometimes I think I add to my collection just to get this chat back to page one...
Here's my latest addition to my quarter set:
Excellent addition for sure,I think you out bid me LOL
Ooops, I have been looking for an upgrade to my current (fine graded) example for a while, and when this one showed up I was really attracted to the originality of the look.
Where are all the proofs on this thread! This one really has outstanding mirrors, and excellent frost on the devices...must have been an early strike. DCAM's all but disappear after 1901.
@Eldorado9 gorgeous proof! If I collected proofs... I promise you that you would see more of them on this thread Eldo. Thanks for sharing! Wow.
Jed @jedm. A really great look to your quarter! Nice, nice pick-up. I know you have been looking for a decent center-mm '93-S. Congratulations.
@JeffMTampa. So many coins, might be difficult to dig out of the "hole" I've placed myself in.
@ARCO Thanks for the kudos on the '97-S center-mm in AU. I will report back what our hosts determine on grade. Shouldn't be long now... in "Quality Check":
https://www.pcgs.com/shared-orders/order-details/24703257
A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.
Here is a recently-arrived newp.
1913-D Barber Half PCGS AU58
Date Close-up
Mintmark Close-up
A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.
Love that 13-d Tim. Great looking Barber.
I just packed this gorgeous gal up for her trip to Peoria. I'm gonna miss her! I hate to see her go, but I know she'll be well looked after and maybe even get a new blue dress. (Sent in for a crossover) Notice the crooked D mint mark too.
Some of my latest additions...
@jedm Jed, I'll give it my macro imaging touch when it arrives! then reshare it on this thread.
@erwindoc Jason, you certainly have a lot of reflective luster in that grouping of pick-ups! The '06-D Quarter certainly has some neat toning flake splatter all over with a great periphery! You will have to share more on your thoughts later on what the '00-S dime looks like once in hand. I'll bet it is not as subdued as that digital picture portrays. Thanks for sharing! awesome!
@Eldorado9 Thanks for the kudos on the '13-D. I have another one that has more toning so that '13-D will be a dupe to the following coin:
1913-D Barber Half PCGS AU58
This one is in an older holder when comparing to the previous one...
A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.
The grades are in. The center mintmark '97-S in AU received a DNC:
Coin once again:
A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.
Could you expand your explanation a little more? The "post?"
The original design of the coin reverse had leaves layered on top of each other in the area of question. The "hole" was connected to a valley, creating the overlapping leaves motif:
1892 P Mint Dime
1899 P Mint Dime
From 1892 thru 1899 the reverse of all dimes from all mints looked like the examples shown. All dies were made from the same Master Hub in Philadelphia. In 1900 there were Hub changes made to the Barber series; the dimes included. Call it a "makeover". In the process of revamping the Dime reverse the concept of overlapping leaves was lost in the area of question:
1900 S Mint Dime
1915 S Mint Dime
As one can see a "hole" now shows. What really happened is someone that didn't understand the design and re-engraved that area. The "valley" connected to the hole was now lost (which created the overlapping leaves design). The area now became very odd looking, the "hole" disjointed serving no purpose. All mints had the same design features as they came from the Master Hub. Any mints reverse could have been chosen as examples (I randomly chose).
The "post" previously referred to is on the die. The "hole" was created by a raised "post" element on the die striking the planchet, creating the "hole".
Here is another recently obtained, arrived, and imaged newp from Alex over at Tipsico:
1906-P Barber Half Cracked-out NGC AU55
A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.
In the not too distant future your collection will be referred to as the "Sedulous Hoard."
In the future?
Feigenbaum stated in this video "let's say you have a hoard of Barber Quarters, nobody does" (LOL)... it's about at 3:10 minutes into this video.
Feigenbaum video from 2/17/2025.
https://youtu.be/OyFMOm2NVHc?si=TwSnla56_o9uNg6p
A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.
Maybe we'll call it the "Nobody" hoard.
Now 1916-P Barber Quarter PCGS AU50
Formerly ANACS AU50
A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.
Nice '16 Tim! @sedulous - Were you hoping to get an XF 45 from PCGS for your set?
Here's an ANACS AU 58 that I have in my type set:
This is my type set example that is in the process of finding a new home: 1915 ANACS soap box holder XF 40:
PCGS MS-67 CAC
Ex. Hugon
Answer: yes. Fortunately, I already have an XF45 for the '16-P. However, does anyone have an XF45 for the '16-D? I only have an XF40 in PCGS holder for that one.
Edit: you think it would be easy to find, but alas, no.
A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.
No one will ever top the Hugon Barber Proof Quarter and Proof Barber Half Collections.
Tyler Jorgenson
SIMCO Numismatics
https://simplythefinestcommems.com
A few more additions in the Barber family...
Here are a couple from @jedm:
1907-D Barber Quarter ANACS VF35
1906-D Barber Quarter PC35
Purchased 8/8/2014 from JT, sold to Jed, then recently bought back.
A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.
@sedulous Very nice pics Tim! You really captured the look of the '07 D.
Here's my latest addition to my registry set:
Here is a recent grading return from a cross over at our hosts:
1899-P Barber Half PCGS AU58
It has a pleasantly-toned Reverse:
A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.
Sweet.
Great coin!
Here is my other '16-P in PC45... as a follow-up to the previous post:
A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.
Picked up a 1911 Lib Nickel today, VF Raw. I have a Capital Plastics holder for the Lib Nickels I thought would make a nice display VF/XF-ish. It is out of my LCS:
A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.
I really appreciated your explanation. Could you further explain what was the "raised post element on the die?"
The die has the exact opposite characteristics of the struck coin. A “hole” in the relief means the die has the exact opposite characteristics; a “post’”.
Here is another newp that just arrived today from GC to add to the VF30 Set #2:
1893-P Barber Quarter PCGS VF30
A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.
Sorry to keep asking. What is a post? A foreign object that fell on the die or a "tool" that held the die in place?
Small raised portion of the die.