Post some provenance/pedigree!
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This is a thread for those of us who love to know where a coin has been before we owned it. And there is something fun about having a tangible link to historical figures or previous giants of numismatics. Post em if you know em.
Here is a 1839 Proclamation scudo from Bolivia that has been in the Eliasberg, Clapp, Newcomer, and Jenks collection. It can be tracked back to the late 1800s
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Ex. S.H. & H. Chapman and others:
Eliasberg:
Newman/Green:
Doug Bird:
Stewart Blay:
Empty Nest Collection
Matt’s Mattes
This one I purchased recently is from the Fairmont Collection, I think I have others with a pedigree listed on the insert, but I can’t remember which and what the pedigree is.
Mr_Spud
HELLo NEWman:
AU55 CAC. Newman pedigree on tag.
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PCGS Registry: Screaming Eagles
Copperindian
Retired sets: Soaring Eagles
Copperindian
Nickelodeon
For the half dollar geeks…..
Dosier, Hilgard, Logan, Hilgard, Me!
A: The year they spend more on their library than their coin collection.
A numismatist is judged more on the content of their library than the content of their cabinet.
From the Oil Baron:
“The thrill of the hunt never gets old”
PCGS Registry: Screaming Eagles
Copperindian
Retired sets: Soaring Eagles
Copperindian
Nickelodeon
A civil war token struck over an 1861 Seated Liberty Quarter, ex.T. Harrison Garrett:
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My only Eliasberg
Collector of Liberty Seated Half Dimes, including die pairs and die states
My Stewart Blay trifecta:
“The thrill of the hunt never gets old”
PCGS Registry: Screaming Eagles
Copperindian
Retired sets: Soaring Eagles
Copperindian
Nickelodeon
I bought this coin in part due to its pedigree...especially Henry Hines, Willard Blaisdell and Ted Nafzger. Some Large Cent heavyweights.
Ex Henry C. Hines-Willard C. Blaisdell 9/1976 (via Del Bland)-R. E. Naftzger, Jr.-Naftzger Estate, McCawley & Grellman Auctions/Goldbergs 9/7/2009:817 ($690)-unknown-2015 ANA Sale, Stack's Bowers 8/2015:42135 ($646)-John McBride 6/20/2020-Colonel Steven K. Ellsworth Collection
A post about this coin: https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/1086837/a-new-piece-1798-large-cent-naftzger-provenance
"Got a flaming heart, can't get my fill"
Ex. Steve Crain.
BHNC #248 … 130 and counting.
Pittman
"Look up, old boy, and see what you get." -William Bonney.
Not a coin, but I bought an early spoon about 10 years ago that I later found pictured in a book published originally in 1926:
It was owned back then by Lionel Alfred Crichton (Crichton Brothers) of London:
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Is a Berlinghof 73-CC WA half dollar considered a pedigreed coin? It's a hoard of mostly low-grade CC halves.
spoons do not look the same to me, one in book has slight curve and slightly different top
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Here are a few. Forgive the fact that they aren’t US.
Archer Huntington
FCC Boyd/John J Ford
Hector Elizondo/Calbeto
Richard Stuart
Howard Gibbs/Lissner
Eric Newman
James B Longacre, copper is also ex Brand/Norweb
Latin American Collection
These coins were legal tender in the US until 1857 so we forgive you.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
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Donald Partrick pedigree… Love this little CAC’d colonial gem, has two dates, including the 85 from the 1785 from the Nova host coin. Glad I stumbled on it at a small show.
Three Fairmont coins and one Virginian (D Haynor).
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$5 Type Set https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/u-s-coins/type-sets/half-eagle-type-set-circulation-strikes-1795-1929/album/344192
CBH Set https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/everyman-collections/everyman-half-dollars/everyman-capped-bust-half-dollars-1807-1839/album/345572
I think the CBH guys will recognize these names. In some cases I have a few that have passed through these collectors hands
ex Frederick
ex Prouty
ex Parsley
ex Prouty, Brown, Hilgard
ex Meyers ("Swampy")
“We are only their care-takers,” he posed, “if we take good care of them, then centuries from now they may still be here … ”
Todd - BHNC #242
@pursuitofliberty Great halves! I have a quarter that is ex.”Swampy” Meyers as well.
Reverend Dr. James G.K. McClure, now in a PCGS holder that lacks his appellation.
I made a more detailed post about this coin here: https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/1097216/big-weekend-new-pickup-from-my-lcs
Nothing is as expensive as free money.
here is one going back to 1908
Ex: Peter Gschwend (Thomas Elder, 6/1908), lot Z in the second addendum; Virgil Brand (Journal #44170); Armin Brand; unknown intermediaries, Harry X Boosel Collection (RARCOA, 4/1972), lot 1190; FUN Sale (RARCOA, 1/1973), lot 688; Public Auction Sale (Stack's, 1/1987) lot 535; October 7-9, 1990 Sale (Superior Galleries, 10/1990), lot 1887; Robert W. Miller, Sr. Collection (Bowers and Merena, 11/1992), lot 1085; Rarities Sale (Bowers and Merena, 1/1997), lot 466; William H. LaBelle, Sr. Collection (American Numismatic Rarities, 7/2005), lot 68; Important Selections from The Bob R. Simpson Collection, Part III / FUN Signature (Heritage, 1/2021).
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I'm sorry, but you are missing a herb or three.
"Got a flaming heart, can't get my fill"
ex. Hamilton/Graves
Oh man, Cat Dan ... that can go SO many ways!
So many ways to interpret that statement.
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1. I'm really more of a garlic fan. Maybe a little basil, sage and oregano.
2. If you really know me, you might know that the amount of "herb" I consumed (grew, distributed, etc) as a young man would far exceed the space we have (or the brain cells I have left) to discuss here.
3. I like Herb @Herb_T , and am sorry to see he is leaving the specialty. I have one of his coins that he sold me a couple years ago, a fantastic, well struck 1810 O-102a in P55. I have not picked up one of his coins in the recent sales, but I might still.
4. And finally, if it is about that Herb, I also didn't include CBH's from Davignon, Friedman, Gerrie, Herrman, Keigwin, Long, Manevitz, Osborne, Ross and others which I am also fortunate enough to possess. With one exception, those guys are all still actively collecting so far as I know.
“We are only their care-takers,” he posed, “if we take good care of them, then centuries from now they may still be here … ”
Todd - BHNC #242
Not all were LT.
I was referring to the coins that Boosibri posted. Which ones weren't legal tender in the US before 1857?
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
Argentina and Ecuador. Once the SA and CA countries achieved independence, their coins may or may not have been given LT status. Chile and Peru did make the cut.
I should add that these coins may well have been used in commerce. I’ve added some to my LT type just in case.
Ex. Eliasberg
Ex. Prouty
Ex. Hamilton
Ex. Friend
Ex. McClerg, Queller
Ex. Brown
Ex. Witham
Ex. Solomon
Ex. Myers
Ex. Reiver
Ex. Hawn, Queller
Dave
Wow! Superb coins and a great array of provenances. I think you nailed this thread.
heavy breathing
BHNC #248 … 130 and counting.
I cannot compete
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Bad transactions with : nobody to date
Ex Ray Byrne/Irving Goodman/Millennia
Latin American Collection
China Qing Dynasty Emperor Shi Zu (1638-1661) gold good luck amulet. 24k solid gold. Treasures from the W&L Collection. Not sure who is W&L.
Ex; Pittman
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CoinsAreFun Toned Silver Eagle Proof Album
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Gallery Mint Museum, Ron Landis& Joe Rust, The beginnings of the Golden Dollar
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More CoinsAreFun Pictorials NGC
I got this fantasy piece for $3,220. It sold in the Eliasberg sale for $4,400 in 1996. .
Here is the information from the ANR Numismatic Rarities The Drew St. John Sale.
"1792" (i.e. 1860-1870) "trial cent" fantasy. Judd Appendix A, Pollock-6001, Breen-1378. MS-64 RB (NGC)."
The finest example of this fascinating 19th century concoction we have seen, pedigreed to 1905. Choice lustrous light brown with abundant mint red framing all legends and devices and encircling the greater portion of the peripheries. Well struck and attractive, natural planchet striations at base of reverse, tiny areas of corrosion noted just inside the rim at 6:00 on the obverse and above ES of STATES on the reverse. Interestingly, when the Chapman's catalogued this precise piece in 1905, they noted that it was struck about 1870, while most current speculation places it about a decade earlier, closer to the 1859 publication of Dr. Dickeson's magnum opus, the American Numismatical Manual. Of course, though Dickeson's career as an adventurer, student of Native American artifacts, showman and promoter are well-documented, there is no great paper trail surrounding this unusual numismatic production. Most assume today that the heavily rusted eagle motif was produced to emboss revenue-stamped fiscal paper sometime before 1817, but Dickeson thought it probable that it was produced as a 1792 pattern cent, thus his creation of this interesting piece. Fewer than two dozen examples are generally thought to exist (uspatterns.com suggests only a dozen known), though we can remember no finer specimen than the piece offered here.
From S.H. and Henry Chapman's sale of the J.F. McCabe Collection, June 1905, Lot 68; John M. Clapp to John H. Clapp; Clapp Estate to Louis E. Eliasberg, Sr. in 1942; Bowers and Merena's sale of the Louis E. Eliasberg, Sr. Collection, May 1996, Lot 111 (at $4,400).
What a great thread!
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Ex- Raymond T. Baker, Director of the United States Mint, 1917 to 1922. Owned by Baker from the time it was struck, handed down through his family and friends until being sold in 2014. Bob R. Simpson Collection. Single finest known.
My only pedigreed coin, and I acquired it just this past week. This one’ belonged to John Jay Pittman.
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