U.S. Mint 2024 lottery "230th Anniversary Flowing Hair Silver Medal".

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  • NJCoin
    NJCoin Posts: 4,891 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 14, 2024 5:20PM
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    @Baycity said:

    @goldbuffalo said:
    For the Gold, under the 'specs' it states

    Privy Mark - NONE

    Second,
    For Gold
    I wonder if all the dealers will be updating their pictures when we get the Mints Images.

    The mint says Proof, I'd assume there will be shiny fields.
    Otherwise they'd be mis representing the product

    It says the same for the silver medal under 'specs'
    Privy Mark - NONE

    Really? Then what's this, right there in the description?:

    "In addition, 1,794 of the medals will contain a “230” privy mark, and 230 of those privy- marked medals will include a certificate of authenticity signed by United States Mint Director Ventris C. Gibson."

    Does the gold product page include that language? If not, we just might have solved the riddle.

    All you are pointing to is the fact that 73,206 of the medals will not have a privy mark. Which is 100% true. Has nothing to do with the 1794 that will.

    Or with the gold, a separate product that will not have any with privy marks. Because privy marks are not in the specifications, or in the description. It's REALLY not complicated.

  • coiner
    coiner Posts: 991 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Does the gold product page include that language? If not, we just might have solved the riddle.

    It doesnt say it..........YET.

    Not implying it will, but, it could by mid Nov.

  • HATTRICK
    HATTRICK Posts: 2,584 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 14, 2024 5:26PM
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    @Cranium_Basher73 said:
    How insane are you for this asking price?
    "Yes."
    Highest buy-now prices on ebay as of 630pm.

    >

    1. Not the place to advertise sales
    2. This seller does not have the coins to sell at this time and likely will not.
    3. Buying from an anonymous seller with no coins you are likely to get burned.
    " If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. " The 1st Law of Opposition from The Firesign Theater
  • NJCoin
    NJCoin Posts: 4,891 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 14, 2024 5:28PM
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    @coiner said:

    Does the gold product page include that language? If not, we just might have solved the riddle.

    It doesnt say it..........YET.

    Not implying it will, but, it could by mid Nov.

    Sure it could. But it won't. Advance Release and bulk purchase orders have already been placed.

    As far as I recall, no description at all was posted for the silver until they posted the one referencing the privy. The only things I have ever seen them change, once posted, have been HHLs.

    I'm also not implying anything. I'm flat out saying it's not happening. But, hope springs eternal. Good luck with your gold privys.

  • coiner
    coiner Posts: 991 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Thats a label play - Baltimore Show Release. Only available for coins bought and submitted at the show.

  • coiner
    coiner Posts: 991 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Interesting that images of GOLD with PRIVY have shown up elsewhere (Not my image)
    Maybe USM decided to not do PRIVY on GOLD, or, have we yet to hear that they will do it on GOLD as well?

  • NJCoin
    NJCoin Posts: 4,891 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @coiner said:
    Interesting that images of GOLD with PRIVY have shown up elsewhere (Not my image)
    Maybe USM decided to not do PRIVY on GOLD, or, have we yet to hear that they will do it on GOLD as well?

    Not interesting at all. It's just a colorized version of the Mint's silver image. How do I know? Because it's not even a proof image.

    It's garbage. No rando on the internet has access to a Mint image that the Mint has not posted on its own website. If it makes you hold your breath waiting for a GOLD privy, more power to you.

  • coiner
    coiner Posts: 991 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    They haven’t released a proof image. That’s no evidence at all.
    Well I guess we will see soon enough what is garbage and what is not.
    Don’t be surprised to see Privy’s showing up on the gold. Im sure the forum members will accept that you were incorrect.

  • NJCoin
    NJCoin Posts: 4,891 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 14, 2024 7:07PM
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    @coiner said:
    They haven’t released a proof image. That’s no evidence at all.
    Well I guess we will see soon enough what is garbage and what is not.
    Don’t be surprised to see Privy’s showing up on the gold. Im sure the forum members will accept that you were incorrect.

    Actually, it is evidence. It's evidence that the image did not come from the Mint, since the coin is, was and always has been a proof. It's evidence that the image is crap someone just whipped up on speculation, and posted to the interweb. To get people like you all worked up. Mission accomplished.

    I won't merely be surprised. I'll be utterly shocked, and will be the first to admit if I am wrong. Hopefully you'll honor me with a shout out when I turn out to be right.

  • Baycity
    Baycity Posts: 63 ✭✭✭
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    @NJCoin said:

    @coiner said:

    The only things I have ever seen them change, once posted, have been HHLs.

    How long have you been looking at their site?

  • coiner
    coiner Posts: 991 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    The Silver Privy details were not there when the first details hit the mint site.

    Someone would be able to pinpoint the exact date those details were added - but, it cant be more than 2-3 weeks old.

  • NJCoin
    NJCoin Posts: 4,891 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @Baycity said:

    @NJCoin said:

    @coiner said:

    The only things I have ever seen them change, once posted, have been HHLs.

    How long have you been looking at their site?

    Many years. Have you noticed anything different?

  • NJCoin
    NJCoin Posts: 4,891 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 14, 2024 9:00PM
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    @coiner said:
    The Silver Privy details were not there when the first details hit the mint site.

    Someone would be able to pinpoint the exact date those details were added - but, it cant be more than 2-3 weeks old.

    True. But I don't remember seeing any details at all, other than it was coming, with a HHL of 1, before they posted the details we see now. At one point, they didn't even have a mintage listed. And, they showed pictures with the privy, and folks on this forum were freaking out, hating it because it took away from the originality of the design.

    In any event, that was then, this is now. The gold has details the silver did not have a month ago.

    The privy has been announced for the silver. No reason to hide it for the gold if it was coming. Either from us, or from the dealers who have already clearly placed Advance Release and bulk purchase orders.

    It's not coming. You won't believe it until 11/14, but it's not coming. The picture you posted is pure fiction. The fact that dealers are offering silver privys for pre-release sale, and not gold, really should tell you all you need to know.

  • Baycity
    Baycity Posts: 63 ✭✭✭
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    @NJCoin said:

    @Baycity said:

    @NJCoin said:

    @coiner said:

    The only things I have ever seen them change, once posted, have been HHLs.

    How long have you been looking at their site?

    Many years. Have you noticed anything different?

    Yes. The mint does whatever it wants. Always has and always will. It doesn't give you all the information on first listing. They change whatever they want whenever they want.

  • NJCoin
    NJCoin Posts: 4,891 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @Baycity said:

    @NJCoin said:

    @Baycity said:

    @NJCoin said:

    @coiner said:

    The only things I have ever seen them change, once posted, have been HHLs.

    How long have you been looking at their site?

    Many years. Have you noticed anything different?

    Yes. The mint does whatever it wants. Always has and always will. It doesn't give you all the information on first listing. They change whatever they want whenever they want.

    Do you have any examples of things they changed, other than HHLs, after publishing details on their website?

    Clearly they have placeholders for upcoming issues, but those have no details. And then later details are added.

    But I have never seen details changed, as you are speculating might happen now with the gold coin. Do you have a single example? Or are you just saying they can, therefore they must have, although you don't have a single specific example to point to?

  • Baycity
    Baycity Posts: 63 ✭✭✭
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    @NJCoin said:

    @Baycity said:

    @NJCoin said:

    @Baycity said:

    @NJCoin said:

    @coiner said:

    The only things I have ever seen them change, once posted, have been HHLs.

    How long have you been looking at their site?

    Many years. Have you noticed anything different?

    Yes. The mint does whatever it wants. Always has and always will. It doesn't give you all the information on first listing. They change whatever they want whenever they want.

    Do you have any examples of things they changed, other than HHLs, after publishing details on their website?

    Clearly they have placeholders for upcoming issues, but those have no details. And then later details are added.

    But I have never seen details changed, as you are speculating might happen now with the gold coin. Do you have a single example? Or are you just saying they can, therefore they must have, although you don't have a single specific example to point to?

    How about the 2014 $1 coin and currency set

  • Baycity
    Baycity Posts: 63 ✭✭✭
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    @Baycity said:

    @NJCoin said:

    @Baycity said:

    @NJCoin said:

    @Baycity said:

    @NJCoin said:

    @coiner said:

    The only things I have ever seen them change, once posted, have been HHLs.

    How long have you been looking at their site?

    Many years. Have you noticed anything different?

    Yes. The mint does whatever it wants. Always has and always will. It doesn't give you all the information on first listing. They change whatever they want whenever they want.

    Do you have any examples of things they changed, other than HHLs, after publishing details on their website?

    Clearly they have placeholders for upcoming issues, but those have no details. And then later details are added.

    But I have never seen details changed, as you are speculating might happen now with the gold coin. Do you have a single example? Or are you just saying they can, therefore they must have, although you don't have a single specific example to point to?

    How about the 2014 $1 coin and currency set

    When it was first listed it, it didn't say it was enhanced uncirculated.

  • Baycity
    Baycity Posts: 63 ✭✭✭
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    @NJCoin said:

    @Baycity said:

    @NJCoin said:

    @Baycity said:

    @NJCoin said:

    although you don't have a single specific example to point to?

    Wow, you sounded so sure of yourself!

  • NJCoin
    NJCoin Posts: 4,891 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 14, 2024 9:52PM
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    @Baycity said:

    @NJCoin said:

    @Baycity said:

    @NJCoin said:

    @Baycity said:

    @NJCoin said:

    although you don't have a single specific example to point to?

    Wow, you sounded so sure of yourself!

    Yup. You got me. 10 years ago they snuck an unexpected finish past us. Get your orders for the gold in now, because a surprise privy just might be in the box. Because 2014 Coin and Currency. 🤣

    By the way, did they ever change the description on the website? Pretty sure they did not. The coins just ended up having an unexpected finish, as I recall.

    Here, they explicitly said what they are doing with the medals, specifically to goose sales. Good luck with a 2014 Coin and Currency unexpected surprise with the gold, for no particular reason.

  • Baycity
    Baycity Posts: 63 ✭✭✭
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    @NJCoin said:

    @Baycity said:

    @NJCoin said:

    @Baycity said:

    @NJCoin said:

    @Baycity said:

    @NJCoin said:

    although you don't have a single specific example to point to?

    Wow, you sounded so sure of yourself!

    Yup. You got me. 10 years ago they snuck an unexpected finish past us. Get your orders for the gold in now, because a surprise privy just might be in the box. Because 2014 Coin and Currency. 🤣

    By the way, did they ever change the description on the website? Pretty sure they did not. The coins just ended up having an unexpected finish, as I recall.

    Here, they explicitly said what they are doing with the medals, specifically to goose sales. Good luck with a 2014 Coin and Currency unexpected surprise with the gold, for no particular reason.

    My only point is you know everything? I really don't care what they do. Because the mint is gonna do what the mint is gonna do. But along comes NJCoin that knows everything. You and your " Do you have a single example?" Wow! Why can't the "All knowing NJCoin" just let people have their fun. Even after you got a single specific example you still act like that. WOW what a buzz kill.

  • Baycity
    Baycity Posts: 63 ✭✭✭
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    If they add some verbage when they put the pictures up you will probably say something like "it wasn't officially listed until the picture is up." There is something wrong with you.

  • Cranium_Basher73
    Cranium_Basher73 Posts: 3,826 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @HATTRICK said:

    @Cranium_Basher73 said:
    How insane are you for this asking price?
    "Yes."
    Highest buy-now prices on ebay as of 630pm.

    >

    1. Not the place to advertise sales
    2. This seller does not have the coins to sell at this time and likely will not.
    3. Buying from an anonymous seller with no coins you are likely to get burned.
    1. Not advertising sales. Several posts earlier in the thread have similar information.
    2. Of course they don't.
    3. They're just asking if they can scam you, but politely.

    Throw a coin enough times, and suppose one day it lands on its edge.

  • HalfDime
    HalfDime Posts: 1,191 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @NJCoin said:

    Yup. You got me. 10 years ago they snuck an unexpected finish past us. Get your orders for the gold in now, because a surprise privy just might be in the box. Because 2014 Coin and Currency. 🤣

    It appears the privy marks were a last second addition to the silver medals, and they might be for the gold as well. That is all anyone is saying. Nobody, not even you knows for sure what will happen. You can huff and puff but the mint will decide what happens, not us.

  • Goldminers
    Goldminers Posts: 4,414 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    LOL. The Holy Grail is the silver privy with one of the 230 signed certificates.

    Still, in the long run, these are only worth what someone else will pay for them.

    Wishing you all good luck today with your single household order limit.

  • jmski52
    jmski52 Posts: 24,011 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    This medal is of the original U.S. Mint design for our first silver dollar "coin".

    It IS different in that regard. I have never been interested in medals from the U.S. Mint or anywhere else.

    I am very interested in this release.

    Agreed. Just the amount of commentary in this thread is an indicator of the interest that the 230 has generated. This is even more manipulative than Phillip Diehl's 95-W Proof Silver Eagle.

    Yeah, there's absolutely more than 230 collectors/investors/speculators who will bid this thing up.

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  • NJCoin
    NJCoin Posts: 4,891 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @Baycity said:

    @NJCoin said:

    @Baycity said:

    @NJCoin said:

    @Baycity said:

    @NJCoin said:

    @Baycity said:

    @NJCoin said:

    although you don't have a single specific example to point to?

    Wow, you sounded so sure of yourself!

    Yup. You got me. 10 years ago they snuck an unexpected finish past us. Get your orders for the gold in now, because a surprise privy just might be in the box. Because 2014 Coin and Currency. 🤣

    By the way, did they ever change the description on the website? Pretty sure they did not. The coins just ended up having an unexpected finish, as I recall.

    Here, they explicitly said what they are doing with the medals, specifically to goose sales. Good luck with a 2014 Coin and Currency unexpected surprise with the gold, for no particular reason.

    My only point is you know everything? I really don't care what they do. Because the mint is gonna do what the mint is gonna do. But along comes NJCoin that knows everything. You and your " Do you have a single example?" Wow! Why can't the "All knowing NJCoin" just let people have their fun. Even after you got a single specific example you still act like that. WOW what a buzz kill.

    Sorry for being a buzzkill. Knock yourself out and have your fun.

  • NJCoin
    NJCoin Posts: 4,891 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @HalfDime said:

    @NJCoin said:

    Yup. You got me. 10 years ago they snuck an unexpected finish past us. Get your orders for the gold in now, because a surprise privy just might be in the box. Because 2014 Coin and Currency. 🤣

    It appears the privy marks were a last second addition to the silver medals, and they might be for the gold as well. That is all anyone is saying. Nobody, not even you knows for sure what will happen. You can huff and puff but the mint will decide what happens, not us.

    Yes. "It appears." Except it wasn't. They had pictures up with the privy weeks they let us know they would only be on 1794 medals. Nothing similar with the gold, other than people not knowing how to view anything other than wash, rinse, repeat. So they are looking for things that simply are not there.

    Yes, I happen to know for sure what will happen. There is not going to be a privy on the gold coin. Take it to the bank. or continue to argue with me. And then, when I turn out to be right, argue that I am nothing more than a blind squirrel who found an acorn. It's all good.

  • coiner
    coiner Posts: 991 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    If you are really in this for the silver privy; your only real chance is to order quantities once the limit comes off (usually 24 hours)—I would say you would have to have a opening large order of 100 pieces to have a fighting chance of possibly getting 1 or 2 if they are placed in packaged boxes as produced on a percentage basis. The real question is IF the USM did place these in production shipment boxes to the tune of 2% or so.
    The problem is the USM will be getting huge quantities in returns. They person who buys 100 for the search will return almost all of them.

  • Goldbully
    Goldbully Posts: 18,557 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @coiner said:
    If you are really in this for the silver privy; your only real chance is to order quantities once the limit comes off (usually 24 hours)—I would say you would have to have a opening large order of 100 pieces to have a fighting chance...............


    Who's to say there will be any available once the HHL is lifted?

  • HalfDime
    HalfDime Posts: 1,191 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    These will sell out today.

  • Bullsitter
    Bullsitter Posts: 6,295 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    They just raised the HHL to 5....................................................... ;)

  • Goldbully
    Goldbully Posts: 18,557 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @Bullsitter said:
    They just raised the HHL to 5....................................................... ;)



    😂

  • coiner
    coiner Posts: 991 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @Goldbully said:

    @coiner said:
    If you are really in this for the silver privy; your only real chance is to order quantities once the limit comes off (usually 24 hours)—I would say you would have to have a opening large order of 100 pieces to have a fighting chance...............


    Who's to say there will be any available once the HHL is lifted?

    Maybe none available tomorrow? Who knows. But with a HHL of 1; I would think some would be available after HHL is lifted.

  • HalfDime
    HalfDime Posts: 1,191 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Thank you for your patience.
    Due to extraordinary high traffic, we are using a virtual waiting room.
    Estimated Wait Time: 1 minute

  • SONOMOSCA
    SONOMOSCA Posts: 430 ✭✭✭
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    PCGS has already graded 786 of these medals, and 34 (4.3%) are with the privy mark.
    With only 1794 (2.4%) privy marks of the 75k being minted, I believe our chances have worsened.

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  • VanHalen
    VanHalen Posts: 4,330 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @HalfDime said:
    These will sell out today.

    Without a doubt. I guess 4 hours tops. Maybe 2 or 3.

  • Goldbully
    Goldbully Posts: 18,557 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Anyone else?


  • jmski52
    jmski52 Posts: 24,011 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Do they just let you hang out in the waiting room until ordering?

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  • oilers99
    oilers99 Posts: 238 ✭✭✭
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    I logged in but don't see the waiting room - what am I missing?

  • Goldminers
    Goldminers Posts: 4,414 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    mine says 9 minutes. LOL

  • Goldbully
    Goldbully Posts: 18,557 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @SONOMOSCA said:
    PCGS has already graded 786 of these medals, and 34 (4.3%) are with the privy mark.
    With only 1794 (2.4%) privy marks of the 75k being minted, I believe our chances have worsened.


    These medals are already in dealers' hands???
    😡

  • Goldbully
    Goldbully Posts: 18,557 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 15, 2024 8:53AM
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    @jmski52 said:
    Do they just let you hang out in the waiting room until ordering?

    Yes

    Looking around for you, Comrade.

    😉

  • Coinnmore
    Coinnmore Posts: 171 ✭✭✭
    edited October 15, 2024 8:54AM
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    Silerplatform thank you for that I am in the wait room trying not to refresh! :) But its hard! :)

  • jmski52
    jmski52 Posts: 24,011 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Looking around for you, Comrade.

    😉

    Kinda crowded in here! B)

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  • HalfDime
    HalfDime Posts: 1,191 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Thank you for your patience
    Due to extraordinary high traffic, we are using a virtual waiting room.
    The product will release in 3 minutes...

  • VanHalen
    VanHalen Posts: 4,330 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    12 minute wait for me.

  • VanHalen
    VanHalen Posts: 4,330 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Well it said 12 minutes.............more like 11 seconds.

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  • Twobitcollector
    Twobitcollector Posts: 4,749 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Got 1 USM1484XXXX
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    Already got my order confirm - lucky I guess.

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    I was able to get one fairly easy.

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