I wouldn't sell either of these sheets for less than $10,000 (because I collect and want to continue owning them) and they are the only ones known. Does that make them $10,000 items? Would they bring $10,000 in an auction tomorrow? I don't know. Such is the problem valuing rare, esoteric items, and why I like them.
Collector and dealer in obsolete currency. Always buying all obsolete bank notes and scrip.
10K represents the deep end of the pool for me, so in order to participate I am going to use a rather liberal definition of the term "roughly".
I feel comfortable estimating that the two coins below are likely worth somewhere in the range of 7 ~ 8k each at auction.
The 1776 P SF is Ex. Norweb, purchased from CRO, and it's a beautiful example that is much better appreciated in hand. This date/MM is considered Scarce.
The 1776 NR JJ/VJ was a recent exciting auction win for me. These 4 escudos represent the two crowning book ends, if you will, of my small Latin American collection. This date/MM is considered Rare.
This was pretty close. Couple thousand over. Sold it after a couple years of getting it running and drivable for a bit more than I paid.
1937 Simca Topolino
Fuel injected 270 CID Hemi from a 55 dodge.
Yes those are my knees in the window. Haha. One of the reasons I sold it. Didn’t have the legroom I’m used to.
Two years ago I was the fortunate high bidder at HA.com on this nice 1926-S MS64 Red Lincoln for a total of $3,720. Soon after my purchase, this Lincoln started its upward trajectory where it currently finds its' PCGS price guide at $10,500.
No $10K nothin’ in my collection. Nor is there ever likely to be, unless I seriously downsize and roll everything into a tiny vestpocket collection (maybe another Box of 20 with just a handful of biggies). But I do not foresee myself doing that.
Right now I top out in the $3Ks for an individual coin, with only three pieces in that range. I can count on my fingers the number of $2K+ coins I own, and just a few years ago I couldn’t even claim anything over the $1K threshold.
Oh- I did once own the 1806 50C O-129 discovery coin- before it was discovered - as did @Cladiator. At the time of discovery of the new variety in 2005, it was speculated by some specialists to be worth as much as $10K, though I doubt one ever sold in that range. At least one other was subsequently discovered, so there are at least two known now.
Somewhere in the archives of this site there is an old thread I posted right after the discovery. I was still flabbergasted about being on the wrong end of an epic cherrypick, but not really upset about it. Give the die variety experts their due- I will never be one.
@SmEagle1795 said:
This denarius of Augustus and a triumphal arch was a hair under $10K and probably the finest known of the type. The depicted arch is believed to be the single span arch originally erected in the Roman forum and here clearly dedicated to the victory of Octavian over Antony and Cleopatra. This arch was later replaced by a triple span arch, which is also depicted on coins of Octavian/Augustus.
SmEagle! That is a stunner. I have that variety, but not of that quality. I have never seen anything like it!
they collectively will exceed (based on PCGS published prices) the $10k barrier; and if I sold them in the real world the sales proceeds possibly would meet the $10K barrier.
In my end of the pond, $10k is an ocean away! I've got a little over that figure in my entire 7070... the Seated Dollars are $1k coins... I've got a couple of $2k coins in my Box of 20... but I doubt I'll ever put $10k into a single coin.
...unless I hit the lottery and a nice problem free Chain Cent becomes available...
Collecting: Dansco 7070; Middle Date Large Cents (VF-AU); Box of 20;
I translated your thread title literally as asking to see 10,000 pieces of something, such as a $1,000 bag of dimes.
Numismatist. 50 year member ANA. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Winner numerous NLG Literary Awards.
Actually, about 15K worth of early prototype Leica Cameras. Two are working UR Leica replicas, an original Leica A, Leica Null Series and hand built replica Leica prototype M875
My most recent newp, cherry-picked from a Hertiage auction, then got not only the attribution but a + bump in grade to make it POP 1/0. PG on a straight 64 is $13K, with three auction results ranging from $8-13K, current value for a 64+ has got to be up there.
That is a strange bike. 1 x 12? That's a tiny chainring with a major rear cluster and derailleur. Do you climb cliffs with that bike?
Here's another strange bike with four times 10K miles on it. (an XXL, 73-inch wheelbase Easy Racers Tour Easy)
"She's BIG, BIG, BIG!
She's RED, RED, RED! -
BIG RED!"
I sold a couple of 10K coins and a load of silver to buy my 2023 70th Anniversary edition corvette hard top convertible. This car is thrilling to cruise any street and mountain roads.. It takes corners like it’s on rails and will go 0-60 in a heart stopping 2.8 seconds.
I miss my coins but this car makes up for them.
The bitterness of "Poor Quality" is remembered long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten.
It is a Fraser. Someday I would like to get a Remington.
Nice, if you want to see the 1915 plaster version of End of the Trail created by Fraser come to OKC for the 2025 WFoM show and visit the National Cowboy & Western Heritage Museum.
I’m with @lordmarcovan . Other than my house and cars, I have never owned anything worth $10,000.
My values were formed when I had no allowance and was mowing huge lawns for $3.00. Money was too hard to come by - if I spent it, I wouldn’t have it, and it was too hard to get more.
I totally freaked out in high school when my friends wanted to play poker for nickels. I could not afford to part with a dollar. Too rich for my blood!
this cancelled die has a very interesting history. So interesting and so nice that i decided to win it and take it home.
I had Todd take pictures of it as the Stacks Bowers pictures were very ordinary.
Hopefully, after he gets his 400 hours of sleep from the aftermath of this ANA show he can post the picture(s)
Here is the first one:
Lot #11772. Cancelled Obverse Die for the 1872-CC Liberty Double Eagle.
Cancelled 1872-CC Double Eagle Obverse Die Description: Size: 2 1/2" high, 1 3/4" diameter, actual die face 1 5/16" across. Deep steel-gray with chiseled X across the die face, single C stamped on neck of die.
Found in Washoe County, Nevada, in January 1999 during development of a new park on the grounds of the old Carson City Mint-Nevada State Museum. The present die was found under a thin layer of earth along with literally hundreds of other discarded dies from the hay-day of Nevada's capital city mint. The theory behind the discovery of the hoard is simple. At some point, an old wooden shed was outside the mint's blacksmith shop. As each calendar year ended, the books were tallied and dies of the year were cancelled with a chisel and discarded in the shed near the blacksmith shop, covered by earth and trash and then forgotten. During the discovery in 1999, numerous dies were found dating from the 1870s, including the present 1872-dated double eagle obverse die. A pair of dies, obverse and reverse, were found for an 1876-CC half dollar; these dies were in excellent shape, given the circumstances, and were used to make impressions on silver bars and other items for collectors.
The presently offered die will make an excellent addition to a Carson City Mint-related collection or an advanced double eagle cabinet.
Numismatic Reflections by Q. David Bowers Without a doubt this will be a show-stopper at a convention, club meeting, or other event where collectors gather. Carson City Mint double eagles are rare enough in their own right, with 1872-CC being a key issue, but having a die is an almost impossible situation. What a nice go-with this will be to a collection of Carson City Mint coinages.
This is the original Stacks Bowers auction photo which I found in their restored auction archives.
That is a strange bike. 1 x 12? That's a tiny chainring with a major rear cluster and derailleur. Do you climb cliffs with that bike?
Uh, yes. Yes I do. The main purpose of my gravel bike is for the “B” and “C” trails that present as boring on my mountain bike. BTW my mountain bike is also 1x12, with a 28 tooth front chainring for climbing actual cliffs. Hers’s that one. Cost was well over $10k and it weighs about 37 lbs with heavy tires, Cush Core inserts, and coil coil suspension.
And here’s a shot of my Levo behind my house on it’s first ride back in Feb ‘22. It was retail at $15k but I’ve put a lot more into it since then 🤪🤑
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You have 4 wives?
Five. I'm a free spirit.
Lol. I think anyone with 5 wives is anything but "free".
I wouldn't sell either of these sheets for less than $10,000 (because I collect and want to continue owning them) and they are the only ones known. Does that make them $10,000 items? Would they bring $10,000 in an auction tomorrow? I don't know. Such is the problem valuing rare, esoteric items, and why I like them.
Price guide says $10k
10K represents the deep end of the pool for me, so in order to participate I am going to use a rather liberal definition of the term "roughly".
I feel comfortable estimating that the two coins below are likely worth somewhere in the range of 7 ~ 8k each at auction.
The 1776 P SF is Ex. Norweb, purchased from CRO, and it's a beautiful example that is much better appreciated in hand. This date/MM is considered Scarce.
The 1776 NR JJ/VJ was a recent exciting auction win for me. These 4 escudos represent the two crowning book ends, if you will, of my small Latin American collection. This date/MM is considered Rare.
Charles III Album
Charles III Portrait Set
Charles IV Album
Charles IV Portrait Set
A tough pair of Shallow N reverse Indian Head Cents!
I paid exactly 10K for this coin two years ago. Three years ago, the coin was brought into a coin shop raw.
PCGS VF30 CAC
This was pretty close. Couple thousand over. Sold it after a couple years of getting it running and drivable for a bit more than I paid.
1937 Simca Topolino
Fuel injected 270 CID Hemi from a 55 dodge.
Yes those are my knees in the window. Haha. One of the reasons I sold it. Didn’t have the legroom I’m used to.
My Ebay Store
My first Early Early Gold.......
Love the adjustment marks on the reverse
Two years ago I was the fortunate high bidder at HA.com on this nice 1926-S MS64 Red Lincoln for a total of $3,720. Soon after my purchase, this Lincoln started its upward trajectory where it currently finds its' PCGS price guide at $10,500.
USAF (Ret.) 1985 - 2005. E-4B Aircraft Maintenance Crew Chief and Contracting Officer.
My current Registry sets:
✓ Everyman Mint State Carson City Morgan Dollars (1878 – 1893)
✓ Everyman Mint State Lincoln Cents (1909 – 1958)
✓ Morgan Dollar GSA Hoard (1878 – 1891)
I'd purchase a parking lot. Then all those parking lot finds would be mine.😆. Seriously, the finest 55DD in that price range.
But come divorce time you might have to divide up the coins 4 ways.
No $10K nothin’ in my collection. Nor is there ever likely to be, unless I seriously downsize and roll everything into a tiny vestpocket collection (maybe another Box of 20 with just a handful of biggies). But I do not foresee myself doing that.
Right now I top out in the $3Ks for an individual coin, with only three pieces in that range. I can count on my fingers the number of $2K+ coins I own, and just a few years ago I couldn’t even claim anything over the $1K threshold.
Oh- I did once own the 1806 50C O-129 discovery coin- before it was discovered - as did @Cladiator. At the time of discovery of the new variety in 2005, it was speculated by some specialists to be worth as much as $10K, though I doubt one ever sold in that range. At least one other was subsequently discovered, so there are at least two known now.
Full story here:
https://www.cointalk.com/threads/my-one-that-got-away-story-the-1806-o-129-draped-bust-half-discovery-coin.409380/
Somewhere in the archives of this site there is an old thread I posted right after the discovery. I was still flabbergasted about being on the wrong end of an epic cherrypick, but not really upset about it. Give the die variety experts their due- I will never be one.
Perfect CircCam eye appeal on that one- congrats!
1818/7 Large 8 CBH PCGS 63+ CAC
Price guide is exactly $10,000
Empty Nest Collection
Matt’s Mattes
$10k for this one; I have it valued under price guide due to recent market trends:
MS66.
“The thrill of the hunt never gets old”
PCGS Registry: Screaming Eagles
Copperindian
Retired sets: Soaring Eagles
Copperindian
SmEagle! That is a stunner. I have that variety, but not of that quality. I have never seen anything like it!
Tom
I have no coin which meets the $10k barrier.
However if I combine these coins in my collection
they collectively will exceed (based on PCGS published prices) the $10k barrier; and if I sold them in the real world the sales proceeds possibly would meet the $10K barrier.
In my end of the pond, $10k is an ocean away! I've got a little over that figure in my entire 7070... the Seated Dollars are $1k coins... I've got a couple of $2k coins in my Box of 20... but I doubt I'll ever put $10k into a single coin.
...unless I hit the lottery and a nice problem free Chain Cent becomes available...
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I translated your thread title literally as asking to see 10,000 pieces of something, such as a $1,000 bag of dimes.
Actually, about 15K worth of early prototype Leica Cameras. Two are working UR Leica replicas, an original Leica A, Leica Null Series and hand built replica Leica prototype M875
My most recent newp, cherry-picked from a Hertiage auction, then got not only the attribution but a + bump in grade to make it POP 1/0. PG on a straight 64 is $13K, with three auction results ranging from $8-13K, current value for a 64+ has got to be up there.
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That is a strange bike. 1 x 12? That's a tiny chainring with a major rear cluster and derailleur. Do you climb cliffs with that bike?
Here's another strange bike with four times 10K miles on it. (an XXL, 73-inch wheelbase Easy Racers Tour Easy)
"She's BIG, BIG, BIG!
She's RED, RED, RED! -
BIG RED!"
OK, that was strange.
I've got one of those....I think. It can't be worth that much, can it? Yikes!
jom
Bail money ?
That chicken feather is worth big money.
God Bless, CRHer700
Do unto others what you expect to be done to you.
1934-B British Trade Dollar PCGS 64+. Nowhere near $10K when I bought it, but probably in the ballpark today.
Keeper of the VAM Catalog • Professional Coin Imaging • Prime Number Set • World Coins in Early America • British Trade Dollars • Variety Attribution
You don't like my chicken and pen ?
Do you mean chicken and hens? If you do, I’ve got some right here!
God Bless, CRHer700
Do unto others what you expect to be done to you.
I sold a couple of 10K coins and a load of silver to buy my 2023 70th Anniversary edition corvette hard top convertible. This car is thrilling to cruise any street and mountain roads.. It takes corners like it’s on rails and will go 0-60 in a heart stopping 2.8 seconds.
I miss my coins but this car makes up for them.
Nice, if you want to see the 1915 plaster version of End of the Trail created by Fraser come to OKC for the 2025 WFoM show and visit the National Cowboy & Western Heritage Museum.
Philippians 4:4-7
@crazyhounddog: AWESOME! Coin $$$$ well spent!
“The thrill of the hunt never gets old”
PCGS Registry: Screaming Eagles
Copperindian
Retired sets: Soaring Eagles
Copperindian
A couple minor marks are keeping this from 66+. Spectacular eye appeal! Guide right @ $10k.
“The thrill of the hunt never gets old”
PCGS Registry: Screaming Eagles
Copperindian
Retired sets: Soaring Eagles
Copperindian
I don't have any collectibles worth $10K, my wife has 2-3 pieces of Jewelry that meet that threshold.
Well I did buy the below recently, its a little more than 10K.
My current registry sets:
20th Century Type Set
Virtual DANSCO 7070
Slabbed IHC set - Missing the Anacs Slabbed coins
@hfjacinto: that’s a real beauty!
“The thrill of the hunt never gets old”
PCGS Registry: Screaming Eagles
Copperindian
Retired sets: Soaring Eagles
Copperindian
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Tarred and feathered ?
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CoinFacts says $10,000 on this rare 1896-O Barber Half PCGS AU58 with green CAC sticker. 1 of 2 and I will love it to the grave.
A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.
I’m with @lordmarcovan . Other than my house and cars, I have never owned anything worth $10,000.
My values were formed when I had no allowance and was mowing huge lawns for $3.00. Money was too hard to come by - if I spent it, I wouldn’t have it, and it was too hard to get more.
I totally freaked out in high school when my friends wanted to play poker for nickels. I could not afford to part with a dollar. Too rich for my blood!
A nice year from Carson City.
Now celebrating its 150th anniversary in 2022!
$9500 plus the 17.5% juice.
this cancelled die has a very interesting history. So interesting and so nice that i decided to win it and take it home.
I had Todd take pictures of it as the Stacks Bowers pictures were very ordinary.
Hopefully, after he gets his 400 hours of sleep from the aftermath of this ANA show he can post the picture(s)
Here is the first one:
Lot #11772. Cancelled Obverse Die for the 1872-CC Liberty Double Eagle.
Cancelled 1872-CC Double Eagle Obverse Die
Description: Size: 2 1/2" high, 1 3/4" diameter, actual die face 1 5/16" across. Deep steel-gray with chiseled X across the die face, single C stamped on neck of die.
Found in Washoe County, Nevada, in January 1999 during development of a new park on the grounds of the old Carson City Mint-Nevada State Museum. The present die was found under a thin layer of earth along with literally hundreds of other discarded dies from the hay-day of Nevada's capital city mint. The theory behind the discovery of the hoard is simple. At some point, an old wooden shed was outside the mint's blacksmith shop. As each calendar year ended, the books were tallied and dies of the year were cancelled with a chisel and discarded in the shed near the blacksmith shop, covered by earth and trash and then forgotten. During the discovery in 1999, numerous dies were found dating from the 1870s, including the present 1872-dated double eagle obverse die. A pair of dies, obverse and reverse, were found for an 1876-CC half dollar; these dies were in excellent shape, given the circumstances, and were used to make impressions on silver bars and other items for collectors.
The presently offered die will make an excellent addition to a Carson City Mint-related collection or an advanced double eagle cabinet.
Numismatic Reflections by Q. David Bowers
Without a doubt this will be a show-stopper at a convention, club meeting, or other event where collectors gather. Carson City Mint double eagles are rare enough in their own right, with 1872-CC being a key issue, but having a die is an almost impossible situation. What a nice go-with this will be to a collection of Carson City Mint coinages.
This is the original Stacks Bowers auction photo which I found in their restored auction archives.
Would this be the Carson City mm ? While were on the subject. Thank you.
I'm BACK!!! Used to be Billet7 on the old forum.
Uh, yes. Yes I do. The main purpose of my gravel bike is for the “B” and “C” trails that present as boring on my mountain bike. BTW my mountain bike is also 1x12, with a 28 tooth front chainring for climbing actual cliffs. Hers’s that one. Cost was well over $10k and it weighs about 37 lbs with heavy tires, Cush Core inserts, and coil coil suspension.
And here’s a shot of my Levo behind my house on it’s first ride back in Feb ‘22. It was retail at $15k but I’ve put a lot more into it since then 🤪🤑
Empty Nest Collection
Matt’s Mattes
looks like you got it One Piece at a Time... https://youtube.com/watch?v=uErKI0zWgjg
My wife just ran her first 10k! I’m counting that.
I just sold this for a little more than 2x 10k
Dealing in Canadian and American coins and historical medals.