@SPalladino said:
Grades back from an ANACS submission. Thank you to @Nickpatton for selling me the MS69 DCAM Amazonian Assay Office (mintage 16 with proof-like finish). And thank you to Dan for the wonderful creations!
@SPalladino said:
Grades back from an ANACS submission. Thank you to @Nickpatton for selling me the MS69 DCAM Amazonian Assay Office (mintage 16 with proof-like finish). And thank you to Dan for the wonderful creations!
@SPalladino said:
Grades back from an ANACS submission. Thank you to @Nickpatton for selling me the MS69 DCAM Amazonian Assay Office (mintage 16 with proof-like finish). And thank you to Dan for the wonderful creations!
What is the "HC" in the superlative column?
I believe ANACS uses Heavy Cameo.
I just looked it up...
DCAM - Heavy Cameo - Contrast - Proof Coins and SMS Coins
@SPalladino said:
Grades back from an ANACS submission. Thank you to @Nickpatton for selling me the MS69 DCAM Amazonian Assay Office (mintage 16 with proof-like finish). And thank you to Dan for the wonderful creations!
What is the "HC" in the superlative column?
I believe ANACS uses Heavy Cameo.
I just looked it up...
DCAM - Heavy Cameo - Contrast - Proof Coins and SMS Coins
@OAKSTAR said:
Out of all these DC pieces, is there a way to know which ones are 1/0?
Not sure that I understand - assuming that you mean graded populations, as in top pop / none higher?
If so, the ANACS graded pieces can be found in the pop report -> USA -> Token -> Patterns MS (or Patterns proof) -> date -> MM
Thanks very much for that @SPalladino! Excellent directions!
So if I'm doing this data pull correctly and reading this data correctly, not only is this Red 08-S-VDB Over Struck on a 44 w/rim clip top pop 1/0 for this grade, it's the only one for the series? If I'm using the right terminology. Is that correct?
Disclaimer: I'm not a dealer, trader, grader, investor or professional numismatist. I'm just a hobbyist. (To protect me but mostly you! 🤣 )
...ANACS graded pieces can be found in the pop report...
Take these numbers with a grain of salt. ANACS is not very consistent with their categorizations -- some types are lumped together while others are split. I'm betting they're also susceptible to crack-and-resubmit in hopes of an upgrade.
@OAKSTAR said:
So if I'm doing this data pull correctly and reading this data correctly, not only is this Red 08-S-VDB Over Struck on a 44 w/rim clip top pop 1/0 for this grade, it's the only one for the series? If I'm using the right terminology. Is that correct?
It is a pop 1/0 for the 1908-S-VDB Over Struck on a 44 w/rim clip because Dan's production notes verifies it as so.
The ANACS report suggests that of the 231 high grade 1908-S VDB pieces that Dan produced, apparently only one has been submitted.
And, the ANACS report suggests that of the 226 bag handled / antiqued 1908-S VDB pieces that Dan produced, apparently only 27 have been submitted, all grading out at 58.
Steve Palladino - Ike Group member - DIVa (Designated Ike Varieties) Project co-lead and attributor
...ANACS graded pieces can be found in the pop report...
Take these numbers with a grain of salt. ANACS is not very consistent with their categorizations -- some types are lumped together while others are split. I'm betting they're also susceptible to crack-and-resubmit in hopes of an upgrade.
Agreed. But then one can make a strong case that all population reports, from any TPG, should be taken with a grain of salt.
Steve Palladino - Ike Group member - DIVa (Designated Ike Varieties) Project co-lead and attributor
@OAKSTAR said:
So if I'm doing this data pull correctly and reading this data correctly, not only is this Red 08-S-VDB Over Struck on a 44 w/rim clip top pop 1/0 for this grade, it's the only one for the series? If I'm using the right terminology. Is that correct?
Where did you get these numbers?
Disclaimer: I'm not a dealer, trader, grader, investor or professional numismatist. I'm just a hobbyist. (To protect me but mostly you! 🤣 )
@OAKSTAR said:
So if I'm doing this data pull correctly and reading this data correctly, not only is this Red 08-S-VDB Over Struck on a 44 w/rim clip top pop 1/0 for this grade, it's the only one for the series? If I'm using the right terminology. Is that correct?
Where did you get these numbers?
In your own post of Dan's production notes. However, the one you posted appears to be old, meaning that I erred. It should be:
The ANACS report suggests that of the 353 high grade 1908-S VDB pieces that Dan produced, apparently only one has been submitted.
And, the ANACS report suggests that of the 226 bag handled / antiqued 1908-S VDB pieces that Dan produced, apparently only 27 have been submitted, all grading out at 58.
These aren't new purchases, but rather newly graded. (Sorry for the bad photos).
I was happy to find that my 2021 Covid medal made 70.
Here is a DCarr edge-lettered coin with an error on the host coin. (I'll post a separate thread on these coins soon). I hadn't even noticed the strike-thru until I was preparing my submission.
I think that @OAKSTAR has a DCarr overstrike on a host coin that had a small clip. I wonder if his and mine are the only examples of an error on a host coin. 🤔
Here is a fun mistake by ANACS. They graded my Hejda proposed Jefferson nickel design but used the Daniel Carr label.
ANACS was great about this token and let me provide a text for the label (the designers' names), although they added "(2002)". I bought it in London in 1997 from the original source so I know it's older than that.
I love these octagonal Leshers, just picked this up from eBay ,#2 of 4 minted‼️
Wouldn’t it be really kool if Dan did more of these with personal counter stamped phases‼️👍🎯Who agrees with me ⁉️(That a lot of work for Dan, but it would be too kool)‼️😆👍🎯‼️‼️
@Bullsitter said:
Grades are in, both graded 69, very pleased with the grades.
Huge shout out to Robec, he provided me with all the needed submission info...
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Well, there goes my Pop 1/0 on the Matte! Seriously, Congratulations on 2 great scores. I only passed on to you the info @philographer passed on to me. It looks like they had a tough time photographing the Matte.
Those would always have a loving home in my Carr Archive !!!
Just say'n, in case you ever desire to rehome them Chief ?
I've never submitted a thing to PCGS. Own their slabbed products, but, through the hands and efforts of others.
Lindy in Colorado
@Bullsitter said:
Grades are in, both graded 69, very pleased with the grades.
Huge shout out to Robec, he provided me with all the needed submission info...
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FYI, four of the Morgan/Peace High Grade odd dates from this year are currently available. If you missed out before, here's another opportunity.
I originally ordered 2 of each. Got 2 of each, except the 29-S Peace (only 1 arrived), and that one isn't among the four. Two of each of them are sufficient for me. The second is just in case of a 69 from ANACS on one.
@alefzero said:
FYI, four of the Morgan/Peace High Grade odd dates from this year are currently available. If you missed out before, here's another opportunity.
I originally ordered 2 of each. Got 2 of each, except the 29-S Peace (only 1 arrived), and that one isn't among the four. Two of each of them are sufficient for me. The second is just in case of a 69 from ANACS on one.
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Are you still missing a "1929-S" Peace that you ordered but did not receive ?
@alefzero said:
FYI, four of the Morgan/Peace High Grade odd dates from this year are currently available. If you missed out before, here's another opportunity.
I originally ordered 2 of each. Got 2 of each, except the 29-S Peace (only 1 arrived), and that one isn't among the four. Two of each of them are sufficient for me. The second is just in case of a 69 from ANACS on one.
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Are you still missing a "1929-S" Peace that you ordered but did not receive ?
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Yeah. I didn't notice a compromised parcel. But I really didn't look too closely for that when I opened it.
Back in March, when Jeff Shelvin had his 11th Gathering at Moonlight Mint, we went on a “field trip “ to the Denver Mint, and the Director of the Mint came out to greet us at the end of the tour, and she talked a while about the mint, and she said she was going to share a secret that the public didn’t know, and told us that day back in March that the Mint was planning on making a Flowing Hair commemorative .
When we got back to Dan’s Moonlight Mint, I saw Dan and told him what the mint director said, then I said,” Good thing she doesn’t know that you (Dan),already beat the Mint on it‼️‼️‼️👍🎯
She didn’t say it was gonna be made out of gold‼️
When we got back to Dan’s Moonlight Mint, I saw Dan and told him what the mint director said, then I said,” Good thing she doesn’t know that you (Dan),already beat the Mint on it‼️‼️‼️👍🎯
She didn’t say it was gonna be made out of gold‼️
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I like Dan's 1792/1793 dates better than the 2024 used by the Mint....
Yeah. The gold one is a COIN, while the silver one is a MEDAL. Legislative semantics are important for them. I have been waiting for them to open up subscriptions ever since it was announced last year. Some are question whether it will come to pass with the volatility of the metals prices and potential supply issues.
@alefzero said:
FYI, four of the Morgan/Peace High Grade odd dates from this year are currently available. If you missed out before, here's another opportunity.
I originally ordered 2 of each. Got 2 of each, except the 29-S Peace (only 1 arrived), and that one isn't among the four. Two of each of them are sufficient for me. The second is just in case of a 69 from ANACS on one.
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Are you still missing a "1929-S" Peace that you ordered but did not receive ?
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Yeah. I didn't notice a compromised parcel. But I really didn't look too closely for that when I opened it.
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Can you send me a Private Message with your original order number ?
Still show "1792" Flowing Hair over-strike, on USA Silver Eagle Dollar, Antiqued/Matte Finish which I believe is new as well. The other is sold out and limited to 30.
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@PipestonePete said:
Only 8 of the Flowing Hair over-strikes left.
Thanks for the heads-up. Order placed.
Love the 1792 Flowing Hair overstrike. Wonderful old-school design.
Especially glad the 1792's “STRUCK ON A USA SILVER EAGLE DOLLAR” statement is edge marked -- unlike the 1793, which has that statement marring an otherwise beautiful Reverse design.
And I believe the 1792 is Dan's first time offering a matte finish that's also antiqued.
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@PipestonePete said:
Only 8 of the Flowing Hair over-strikes left.
Thanks for the heads-up. Order placed.
Love the 1792 Flowing Hair overstrike. Wonderful old-school design.
Especially glad the 1792's “STRUCK ON A USA SILVER EAGLE DOLLAR” statement is edge marked -- unlike the 1793, which has that statement marring an otherwise beautiful Reverse design.
And I believe the 1792 is Dan's first time offering a matte finish that's also antiqued.
This is not the first time that I have offered a "Antiqued/Matte" type of finish. Many previous issues were produced the same way (such as the annual silver Owl octagon).
But this is the first time that I have offered two different antiqued finishes on the same basic item. So I needed to call each one something different this time:
"Antiqued/Circulated": A brilliant stain piece that is tumbled in a certain way to produce a lightly circulated aged appearance, without getting them all beat up.
"Antiqued/Matte": A brilliant stain piece that is bead-blasted, with patina applied, and then burnished to lighten the higher areas of the relief.
@dcarr said:
...But this is the first time that I have offered two different antiqued finishes on the same basic item. So I needed to call each one something different this time:
"Antiqued/Circulated": A brilliant stain piece that is tumbled in a certain way to produce a lightly circulated aged appearance, without getting them all beat up.
"Antiqued/Matte": A brilliant stain piece that is bead-blasted, with patina applied, and then burnished to lighten the higher areas of the relief.
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Thanks for the correction and for describing the processes.
Can't wait to see the antiqued/matte in-hand. I'm guessing it'll be my favorite of the three 1792 versions. Certainly it'll be a rarity in my Carr collection -- I've only one other matte piece, a 1964-D Morgan.
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Comments
Received in March
- Bob -
MPL's - Lincolns of Color
Central Valley Roosevelts
What is the "HC" in the superlative column?
I believe it’s DCAM……. Deep Cameo ‼️👍
I believe ANACS uses Heavy Cameo.
I just looked it up...
DCAM - Heavy Cameo - Contrast - Proof Coins and SMS Coins
https://anacs.com/faqs/
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HC is the superlative on the grade report, DCAM is the designation on the label.
- Ike Group member
- DIVa (Designated Ike Varieties) Project co-lead and attributor
Unboxing video for the Flowing Hair and Amazonian Assay Office submission:
https://youtu.be/vGFNWohoGao
- Ike Group member
- DIVa (Designated Ike Varieties) Project co-lead and attributor
The two '64 Peace Dollars made it to grading today....yeehaw.....
Out of all these DC pieces, is there a way to know which ones are 1/0?
Disclaimer: I'm not a dealer, trader, grader, investor or professional numismatist. I'm just a hobbyist. (To protect me but mostly you! 🤣 )
Not sure that I understand - assuming that you mean graded populations, as in top pop / none higher?
If so, the ANACS graded pieces can be found in the pop report -> USA -> Token -> Patterns MS (or Patterns proof) -> date -> MM
- Ike Group member
- DIVa (Designated Ike Varieties) Project co-lead and attributor
So far, at least until @Bullsitter has his graded, these two are Pop 1/0
- Bob -
MPL's - Lincolns of Color
Central Valley Roosevelts
Thanks very much for that @SPalladino! Excellent directions!
So if I'm doing this data pull correctly and reading this data correctly, not only is this Red 08-S-VDB Over Struck on a 44 w/rim clip top pop 1/0 for this grade, it's the only one for the series? If I'm using the right terminology. Is that correct?
Disclaimer: I'm not a dealer, trader, grader, investor or professional numismatist. I'm just a hobbyist. (To protect me but mostly you! 🤣 )
Take these numbers with a grain of salt. ANACS is not very consistent with their categorizations -- some types are lumped together while others are split. I'm betting they're also susceptible to crack-and-resubmit in hopes of an upgrade.
It is a pop 1/0 for the 1908-S-VDB Over Struck on a 44 w/rim clip because Dan's production notes verifies it as so.
The ANACS report suggests that of the 231 high grade 1908-S VDB pieces that Dan produced, apparently only one has been submitted.
And, the ANACS report suggests that of the 226 bag handled / antiqued 1908-S VDB pieces that Dan produced, apparently only 27 have been submitted, all grading out at 58.
- Ike Group member
- DIVa (Designated Ike Varieties) Project co-lead and attributor
Agreed. But then one can make a strong case that all population reports, from any TPG, should be taken with a grain of salt.
- Ike Group member
- DIVa (Designated Ike Varieties) Project co-lead and attributor
Where did you get these numbers?
Disclaimer: I'm not a dealer, trader, grader, investor or professional numismatist. I'm just a hobbyist. (To protect me but mostly you! 🤣 )
In your own post of Dan's production notes. However, the one you posted appears to be old, meaning that I erred. It should be:
Source: http://www.moonlightmint.com/blog_20.htm
- Ike Group member
- DIVa (Designated Ike Varieties) Project co-lead and attributor
Jeezzzzz! I totally missed these small numbers! Sorry! Thanks!! 👍
Disclaimer: I'm not a dealer, trader, grader, investor or professional numismatist. I'm just a hobbyist. (To protect me but mostly you! 🤣 )
I received an email from ANACS and they graded this AU55
INYNWHWeTrust-TexasNationals,ajaan,blu62vette
coinJP, Outhaul ,illini420,MICHAELDIXON, Fade to Black,epcjimi1,19Lyds,SNMAN,JerseyJoe, bigjpst, DMWJR , lordmarcovan, Weiss,Mfriday4962,UtahCoin,Downtown1974,pitboss,RichieURich,Bullsitter,JDsCoins,toyz4geo,jshaulis, mustanggt, SNMAN
These aren't new purchases, but rather newly graded. (Sorry for the bad photos).
I was happy to find that my 2021 Covid medal made 70.
Here is a DCarr edge-lettered coin with an error on the host coin. (I'll post a separate thread on these coins soon). I hadn't even noticed the strike-thru until I was preparing my submission.
I think that @OAKSTAR has a DCarr overstrike on a host coin that had a small clip. I wonder if his and mine are the only examples of an error on a host coin. 🤔
Here is a fun mistake by ANACS. They graded my Hejda proposed Jefferson nickel design but used the Daniel Carr label.
ANACS was great about this token and let me provide a text for the label (the designers' names), although they added "(2002)". I bought it in London in 1997 from the original source so I know it's older than that.
(Slab number removed to protect the innocent).
Bought this one on the PCGS BST Forum.....love the Large Cents.....
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I love these octagonal Leshers, just picked this up from eBay ,#2 of 4 minted‼️
Wouldn’t it be really kool if Dan did more of these with personal counter stamped phases‼️👍🎯Who agrees with me ⁉️(That a lot of work for Dan, but it would be too kool)‼️😆👍🎯‼️‼️
Getting closer....
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Grades are in, both graded 69, very pleased with the grades.
Huge shout out to Robec, he provided me with all the needed submission info...
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Well, there goes my Pop 1/0 on the Matte!
Seriously, Congratulations on 2 great scores. I only passed on to you the info @philographer passed on to me. It looks like they had a tough time photographing the Matte.
- Bob -
MPL's - Lincolns of Color
Central Valley Roosevelts
Those would always have a loving home in my Carr Archive !!!
Just say'n, in case you ever desire to rehome them Chief ?
I've never submitted a thing to PCGS. Own their slabbed products, but, through the hands and efforts of others.
Lindy in Colorado
In todays mail, one of Dan's and one from the Intaglio mint
INYNWHWeTrust-TexasNationals,ajaan,blu62vette
coinJP, Outhaul ,illini420,MICHAELDIXON, Fade to Black,epcjimi1,19Lyds,SNMAN,JerseyJoe, bigjpst, DMWJR , lordmarcovan, Weiss,Mfriday4962,UtahCoin,Downtown1974,pitboss,RichieURich,Bullsitter,JDsCoins,toyz4geo,jshaulis, mustanggt, SNMAN
Outstanding. I might need to look for one too!
Just received my 1929-S, 1930-D, 1932-D, and 1933-S Peace dollars back from ANACS. Here's the unboxing video:
https://youtu.be/9fCbK12h49o
- Ike Group member
- DIVa (Designated Ike Varieties) Project co-lead and attributor
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I named this one "Mattie"......
Incredible ones @Bullsitter . I'm still looking the 64 Peace to accompany my 64 Morgan.
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Had to take a pass of Chief's cool PCGS PEACE so message him as my fun fundies went elsewheres.
FYI, four of the Morgan/Peace High Grade odd dates from this year are currently available. If you missed out before, here's another opportunity.
I originally ordered 2 of each. Got 2 of each, except the 29-S Peace (only 1 arrived), and that one isn't among the four. Two of each of them are sufficient for me. The second is just in case of a 69 from ANACS on one.
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Are you still missing a "1929-S" Peace that you ordered but did not receive ?
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Yeah. I didn't notice a compromised parcel. But I really didn't look too closely for that when I opened it.
Saw this over on the USMINT website today‼️
Back in March, when Jeff Shelvin had his 11th Gathering at Moonlight Mint, we went on a “field trip “ to the Denver Mint, and the Director of the Mint came out to greet us at the end of the tour, and she talked a while about the mint, and she said she was going to share a secret that the public didn’t know, and told us that day back in March that the Mint was planning on making a Flowing Hair commemorative .
When we got back to Dan’s Moonlight Mint, I saw Dan and told him what the mint director said, then I said,” Good thing she doesn’t know that you (Dan),already beat the Mint on it‼️‼️‼️👍🎯
She didn’t say it was gonna be made out of gold‼️
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I like Dan's 1792/1793 dates better than the 2024 used by the Mint....
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There's a silver version too:
https://catalog.usmint.gov/230th-anniversary-flowing-hair-silver-medal-24YH.html
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Thanks, I didn’t see that.
Bet Dan’s are nicer…….. wish the USMINT put pics of them up‼️
Yeah. The gold one is a COIN, while the silver one is a MEDAL. Legislative semantics are important for them. I have been waiting for them to open up subscriptions ever since it was announced last year. Some are question whether it will come to pass with the volatility of the metals prices and potential supply issues.
I sent these back to get the labels corrected, I sent them in with some Moonlight Mint items.
Oh, by the way these are Intaglio mint items.
INYNWHWeTrust-TexasNationals,ajaan,blu62vette
coinJP, Outhaul ,illini420,MICHAELDIXON, Fade to Black,epcjimi1,19Lyds,SNMAN,JerseyJoe, bigjpst, DMWJR , lordmarcovan, Weiss,Mfriday4962,UtahCoin,Downtown1974,pitboss,RichieURich,Bullsitter,JDsCoins,toyz4geo,jshaulis, mustanggt, SNMAN
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Can you send me a Private Message with your original order number ?
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2 new items are up.
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Already sold out? That is what it shows.
Well, just Love coins, period.
Looks like the Antique 1792 dollar is still available, but the 1/10th oz Palladium (Max mintage of 30) is sold out
Thanks for the Heads up @jshaulis
It's all about what the people want...
Still show "1792" Flowing Hair over-strike, on USA Silver Eagle Dollar, Antiqued/Matte Finish which I believe is new as well. The other is sold out and limited to 30.
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Only 2 of the Flowing Hair over-strikes left as of 4:36 CST.
Thanks for the heads-up. Order placed.
Love the 1792 Flowing Hair overstrike. Wonderful old-school design.
Especially glad the 1792's “STRUCK ON A USA SILVER EAGLE DOLLAR” statement is edge marked -- unlike the 1793, which has that statement marring an otherwise beautiful Reverse design.
And I believe the 1792 is Dan's first time offering a matte finish that's also antiqued.
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I think the 1/10th Palladium lasted about 13 hours or so......
.......long gone.
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This is not the first time that I have offered a "Antiqued/Matte" type of finish. Many previous issues were produced the same way (such as the annual silver Owl octagon).
But this is the first time that I have offered two different antiqued finishes on the same basic item. So I needed to call each one something different this time:
"Antiqued/Circulated": A brilliant stain piece that is tumbled in a certain way to produce a lightly circulated aged appearance, without getting them all beat up.
"Antiqued/Matte": A brilliant stain piece that is bead-blasted, with patina applied, and then burnished to lighten the higher areas of the relief.
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Thanks for the correction and for describing the processes.
Can't wait to see the antiqued/matte in-hand. I'm guessing it'll be my favorite of the three 1792 versions. Certainly it'll be a rarity in my Carr collection -- I've only one other matte piece, a 1964-D Morgan.
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