@ctf_error_coins said:
It is really easy to write the words, "I apologize", without an addendum.
Sure, if the OP did something wrong.
If this was just a miscommunication between the parties -- augmented by an 86-year old and the OP and others who were not the owners of the coin in question -- then fine, everybody show their POV and let's move on.
The time to move on this seemed very slow (> 1 year) but maybe the firm was busy. I don't know. Again, communication and IN WRITING solves this problem. Outside of a few text messages, it's hearsay vs. hearsay.
It does appear that the firm in question has a good reputation. They've been around for decades. Nothing like the scamster firms that went under with people's coins/assets. So maybe this was just a employee who was overworked and didn't keep the client (or the client's son) in the loop because they assumed they knew it would be a lengthy process. But probably not over a year !
I thought the post by @ ctf_error_coins was directed towards the dealer.
And you would be wrong again.
Thank you for letting us know, despite your poor attitude, again.
Thank you for your constant arrogance, again.
I hope this will help you somewhere along the line - if something is constant, “again” doesn’t apply.
And I apologize for being arrogant in saying I thought your comment “It is really easy to write the words, "I apologize", without an addendum.” was directed towards the dealer. Never mind that you didn’t provide any perspective to your post.
Signed,
constantly arrogant again.
He might have meant the "again" to modify the "thank you":
Thank you, again, for your constant arrogance.
Although I hesitate to speculate for fear of the adjective coming my way.
I think arrogance on this forum, can get quite prevalent in the course of certain posts. I try to find the benefit of any poster that pervades arrogance, and if none found, then read the next post and move on. Alan, glad your father got his coin back and hopefully he will still enjoy our hobby.
Jim
When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest....Abraham Lincoln
Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.....Mark Twain
@Cougar1978 said:
Consult an attorney. If Your dealing with unsecured debt could be tough sledding. Good luck. How Does the value of what Dealer holding compare vs attorney fees and court costs?
Yet again, it appears that you’ve posted without reading the replies. As a result, your advice is of zero value.
Reading is hard. Thank God the AI can do it for me.
@Pnies20 said:
Sometimes I lay in bed at night and think what it would be like if everyone here was locked in a room together for 24 hours
Only one person would emerge...
I'm still trying to figure out who is more consistently arrogant, Mark or Chris.
Are you sure it would be a test of wits or would it become fisticuffs a dust-up or a good old fashioned Donnybrook
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Three things;
In a test of wits, never fight with an unarmed man ... it just makes them angrier when they lose. Or they say they won anyway.
What a horrific thing to wonder about at night @Pnies20 !
But, if we were all locked together in the same room for 24hrs, I would probably take my hearing aides out and try to take a long nap, as there are a few people in here that would drive me f'n batty and I might have to resort to fisticuffs and a good old Donnybrook of a dust-up otherwise.
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I am glad it is all getting resolved. I didn't read everything, but this probably wasn't the place to air the laundry yet ... however the actual and offered help of some members is commendable.
“We are only their care-takers,” he posed, “if we take good care of them, then centuries from now they may still be here … ”
Felt dealer reps response was terse and a bit off putting to say the least.
That said... Note to self... if I ever become a dealer, keep notes, supply a plan outlined with possible timeline, likely fees to be incurred, commission to be expected, keep owner of coin updated monthly, reach out and communicate, and if possible don't deal with problem coins.
I see hundreds of coins in a dealers case and would be overwhelmed.
The thought of keeping up with the lot would give me hives.
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@AlanSki said:
Coin has been returned. I’ve been threatened with a lawsuit again if I don’t apologize to the owner of Alhambra Coin although I never accused the owner of anything and even stated the owner was probably unaware of anything going on.
This thread can be closed.
The fact that a dealer would threaten a lawsuit over something like this tells me all I need to know about the dealer.
Geez, the internet sure is good stirring up anger, what would we do without it? Most of these conflicts would probably be quickly resolved with phone calls, zoom or other communication medium where behind the scenes communications and what our brains do with with that would be less likely. With a phone call there is usually good feedback and you can usually hear where the other person in coming from.
@AlanSki said:
Coin has been returned. I’ve been threatened with a lawsuit again if I don’t apologize to the owner of Alhambra Coin although I never accused the owner of anything and even stated the owner was probably unaware of anything going on.
This thread can be closed.
The fact that a dealer would threaten a lawsuit over something like this tells me all I need to know about the dealer.
I seriously doubt a lawsuit by anyone associated with this coin would be successful.
Terms like slander libel police malice etc are often used either in writing, in a speech, or in a forum like this.
I seriously doubt a lawsuit by anyone associated with this coin would be successful.
Terms like slander libel police malice etc are often used either in writing, in a speech, or in a forum like this.
Agreed. Not a lawyer, but I do know it's a 3-part test: that the statement was false....that it was known to be false by the person saying/writing it....and that the intent was to cause harm to the individual in question who did in fact suffer reputational harm.
Hard to see even 1 of those conditions being met, let alone all 3 of them.
I wonder if Hollywood made a movie or a mini series of this who would play
Alan
Mr Hall
Alan’s dad
The owner of Alhambra
Wondercoin and finally
Mr Arrogance
I would be played by David Copperfield. When things were at their bleakest moment, and after a full year of Alan’s Dad not seeing his beloved Grant with Star, I came on this thread and told everyone this would all be resolved in 1-2 business days. Alan’s Dad literally had the coin back in his hands between business Day 1 and business Day 2. 😜
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Do you know of any marks the coin may have that are identifying? If it’s still in that slab it will be easy to spot, but if it’s been cracked (and if it was restored, some or all of the toning could be gone) you may need something else to identify the coin.
Looks like there are a couple of good nicks on the lower left area of the reverse rim that would be a good identifier it it were to be cracked out.
yeah. i was wondering if it turned in the holder too.
now, i expect to hear"no good deed goes unpunished" on this one question but it begs asking: what were the cacg sample slabs for? that and the auction thing are head scratchers.
@MsMorrisine said:
yeah. i was wondering if it turned in the holder too.
now, i expect to hear"no good deed goes unpunished" on this one question but it begs asking: what were the cacg sample slabs for? that and the auction thing are head scratchers.
The father and Mr. Hunt are friends and they appear to regularly have lunch. I'm not sure the OP knows the answer to any of these questions. There may be no connection between the sample slabs and the Grant.
As for the auction, it appears Mr. Hunt was trying to help the father sell the problem coin. It's all just speculation, by us and the OP who does not appear to have direct knowledge of the situation.
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An interesting thread indeed.
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Sometimes I lay in bed at night and think what it would be like if everyone here was locked in a room together for 24 hours
BHNC #248 … 108 and counting.
But you did... several times... in this thread.
Only one person would emerge...
I'm still trying to figure out who is more consistently arrogant, Mark or Chris.
He might have meant the "again" to modify the "thank you":
Thank you, again, for your constant arrogance.
Although I hesitate to speculate for fear of the adjective coming my way.
I'm very sorry.
I think arrogance on this forum, can get quite prevalent in the course of certain posts. I try to find the benefit of any poster that pervades arrogance, and if none found, then read the next post and move on. Alan, glad your father got his coin back and hopefully he will still enjoy our hobby.
Jim
When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest....Abraham Lincoln
Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.....Mark Twain
I'd like to understand the degree of your sorryness between sorry and very sorry. Please explain.
Are you sure it would be a test of wits or would it become fisticuffs a dust-up or a good old fashioned Donnybrook
BHNC #248 … 108 and counting.
It would be a test of truth and facts.
24 hours locked in a room... I wouldn't rule out cannibalism.
That almost sounds like a mini version of the Stanford prison experiments.
Hey Siri: Summarize this thread
It's a 5 on a 7 point Likert scale.
Here’s a photo of my dog and a fire for your pleasure. I’m somewhere in the photo.
This one was a blazer.
I wonder if Hollywood made a movie or a mini series of this who would play
Alan
Mr Hall
Alan’s dad
The owner of Alhambra
Wondercoin and finally
Mr Arrogance
Another addition to my post count
You didn’t mention if we have coins in the room?
….or is it a true nightmare with only parking lot finds….
Charlie Sheen can play me.
William Shatner or Wilfred Brimley (Diabeetus) can be my father.
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Three things;
In a test of wits, never fight with an unarmed man ... it just makes them angrier when they lose. Or they say they won anyway.
What a horrific thing to wonder about at night @Pnies20 !
But, if we were all locked together in the same room for 24hrs, I would probably take my hearing aides out and try to take a long nap, as there are a few people in here that would drive me f'n batty and I might have to resort to fisticuffs and a good old Donnybrook of a dust-up otherwise.
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I am glad it is all getting resolved. I didn't read everything, but this probably wasn't the place to air the laundry yet ... however the actual and offered help of some members is commendable.
“We are only their care-takers,” he posed, “if we take good care of them, then centuries from now they may still be here … ”
Todd - BHNC #242
Instructive thread...
Felt dealer reps response was terse and a bit off putting to say the least.
That said... Note to self... if I ever become a dealer, keep notes, supply a plan outlined with possible timeline, likely fees to be incurred, commission to be expected, keep owner of coin updated monthly, reach out and communicate, and if possible don't deal with problem coins.
I see hundreds of coins in a dealers case and would be overwhelmed.
The thought of keeping up with the lot would give me hives.
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BHNC #248 … 108 and counting.
I’m > @Pnies20 said:
I’m just there for Tigers Blood, or at least Charlie would be in that scenario.
Just to be clear, all of your posts add to your post count, whether that is the intention of your post or not! 😁
I'll play myself in the movie, Taylor Swift will play my girlfriend, and there will be a gratuitous love scene.
I just hope she doesn't write a song about it.
The fact that a dealer would threaten a lawsuit over something like this tells me all I need to know about the dealer.
Geez, the internet sure is good stirring up anger, what would we do without it? Most of these conflicts would probably be quickly resolved with phone calls, zoom or other communication medium where behind the scenes communications and what our brains do with with that would be less likely. With a phone call there is usually good feedback and you can usually hear where the other person in coming from.
I seriously doubt a lawsuit by anyone associated with this coin would be successful.
Terms like slander libel police malice etc are often used either in writing, in a speech, or in a forum like this.
One of my ex-GF's swore I looked like Kevin Costner.
I have a feeling it's a little more like Rodney Dangerfield.
Either way, I probably don't get much respect.
“We are only their care-takers,” he posed, “if we take good care of them, then centuries from now they may still be here … ”
Todd - BHNC #242
Maybe that's like the Larry David "apology" to the NBC executive on CYE ?
You know when he straddled the line...somewhere between "begrudging" and "sincere" ???
Classic Rodney:
"I tell you I get no respect....why the other day, my house caught on fire.....my wife told the kids....QUIET, YOU'LL WAKE UP DADDY !!!"
But if she did, would it be titled:
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**> @mikee999 said:
Agreed. Not a lawyer, but I do know it's a 3-part test: that the statement was false....that it was known to be false by the person saying/writing it....and that the intent was to cause harm to the individual in question who did in fact suffer reputational harm.
Hard to see even 1 of those conditions being met, let alone all 3 of them.
Or file a lawsuit against you.
(One more to my post count)
I wonder if Hollywood made a movie or a mini series of this who would play
Alan
Mr Hall
Alan’s dad
The owner of Alhambra
Wondercoin and finally
Mr Arrogance
I would be played by David Copperfield. When things were at their bleakest moment, and after a full year of Alan’s Dad not seeing his beloved Grant with Star, I came on this thread and told everyone this would all be resolved in 1-2 business days. Alan’s Dad literally had the coin back in his hands between business Day 1 and business Day 2. 😜
Wondercoin
Wow. When a thread crashes here, it really crashes…
Smitten with DBLCs.
when did it change from conservation to selling it at auction? +1
No clue from my side.
Looks like there are a couple of good nicks on the lower left area of the reverse rim that would be a good identifier it it were to be cracked out.
I think the phrase is....Jumped The Shark.
BTW, I saw that "Happy Days" episode where Fonzie literally jumped a shark. That episode die NOT Jump The Shark.
Still can't stand that California Kid.
Well, there go 40 minutes I'll never get back . . . . .
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Now listen boy, I'm tryin' to teach you sumthin' . . . . that ain't an optical illusion, it only looks like an optical illusion.
My mind reader refuses to charge me....
The time has come to say goodnight.
Wayne
Kennedys are my quest...
Threads like this only happen on the weekends 😜 well they only last this long on the weekends.
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The night is young.....
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But Monday is only hours away.
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Kennedys are my quest...
Back to the coin, what happened to it? Did it turn in the holder from a bad dip?
yeah. i was wondering if it turned in the holder too.
now, i expect to hear"no good deed goes unpunished" on this one question but it begs asking: what were the cacg sample slabs for? that and the auction thing are head scratchers.
The father and Mr. Hunt are friends and they appear to regularly have lunch. I'm not sure the OP knows the answer to any of these questions. There may be no connection between the sample slabs and the Grant.
As for the auction, it appears Mr. Hunt was trying to help the father sell the problem coin. It's all just speculation, by us and the OP who does not appear to have direct knowledge of the situation.
The problem coin is now still a problem coin.
You should cease and desist with the defamation and libel.
gents, thanks to everyone for the superb coin forum drama, the arc of this story is delicious