1709 Freising taler struck during seat of Johann Franz Eckner von Kapfing und Lichtenec (1649-1727). One of 3 talers issued by this bishopric. Augsburg mint, Dav-2247.
PSA: Don't believe everything you read. This the scarce one taler, not the extremely rare 1 1/4 taler as slabbed. Coin is no longer in the holder. Not throwing stones, understandable data entry mistake, it happens. A buyer, IMO, does have some responsibility to know what they are paying for.
@Que_sai_je - The 1 1/4 shows a weight of 35.8g. Is the weight the only differentiator between the two? Identifying the mistake is a very tricky endeavor assuming diameter is the same and the taler is housed in the oversized slab.
1795 Fulda taler (DAV-2265A). One year type issued in the final years of the bishopric (dissolved by Napoleon in 1802). PCGS MS-63. Flat/weak strikes are typical for the issue.
Corvey taler dated 1723. I've been on the hunt for a piece from Corvey for quite a long time....decent examples are harder to find than one might expect. The abbey has an interesting history dating to the early 9th century near the time that bishoprics Hildesheim, Halberstadt, and Paderborn were established. Corvey’s first abbot, Adalard of Corbie, was a cousin of Charlemagne. Relics of St Vitus (pictured on the obv) were gifted to the young abbey in 836 from abbey of St Denis near Paris. NGC EF-40. DAV-2199.
This coin is a newp from NYINC that I once chased years ago when SB auctioned off the world collection of John Whitney Walter. Previous to that, he had an ancients collection and a highly specialized US collection of 1796-dated die varieties (Mr. 1796 collection).
He’s also a past member of the NY Numismatic Club.
A rather obscure taler from Abbey of Murbach and Luders in upper Alsace, struck during the seat of Archduke Leopold Wilhelm of Austria (younger brother of Emperor Ferdinand III). The taler was struck circa 1630 (no date) in the Ensisheim mint. PCGS AU-58. KM-24; DAV-5617B.
Despite not being a member of the clergy, the Archduke held various Prince-Bishoprics within the Holy Roman Empire to provide him an income: Halberstadt (1628–1648), Passau (1625–1662), Breslau (1656–1662), Olmütz (1637–1662) and Strasbourg (1626–1662). He became the Grand Master of the Teutonic Order in 1641. Family connections certainly helped back in the day.....
The Murbach abbey and monastery existed for over 1,000 years before it was sacked during French Revolution in1789 and dissolved not long after.
Just had this one graded. The grade surprised me although it is a beautiful coin - like many of this type the face is just beat up mush (see thread here!). Clear 3/2 overdate. Looks like they had a lot of trouble with the letters on the obverse, too. Lots and lots of luster. Top pop!
Added the elusive 1732 Mainz 1/4 taler from the January Heritage auction to compliment the 1/2 and 1 talers I have of the same date. Reported mintage of 200 per denomination makes this a challenging run to assemble. The 3 pictured below are the only examples graded by both NGC and PCGS. Still searching for the 1/8 taler denomination.
1732 Mainz 1/4 schautaler
Commemorates the death of archbishop of Mainz Philipp Karl von Eltz-Kempenich. Features St. Martin on horseback.
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Wouldn't you know it? I get excited over a floating bird and it's a pop 1/0
1709 Freising taler struck during seat of Johann Franz Eckner von Kapfing und Lichtenec (1649-1727). One of 3 talers issued by this bishopric. Augsburg mint, Dav-2247.
PSA: Don't believe everything you read. This the scarce one taler, not the extremely rare 1 1/4 taler as slabbed. Coin is no longer in the holder. Not throwing stones, understandable data entry mistake, it happens. A buyer, IMO, does have some responsibility to know what they are paying for.
@Que_sai_je - The 1 1/4 shows a weight of 35.8g. Is the weight the only differentiator between the two? Identifying the mistake is a very tricky endeavor assuming diameter is the same and the taler is housed in the oversized slab.
1795 Fulda taler (DAV-2265A). One year type issued in the final years of the bishopric (dissolved by Napoleon in 1802). PCGS MS-63. Flat/weak strikes are typical for the issue.
Any new Taler acquisitions out there?
My current "Box of 20"
Corvey taler dated 1723. I've been on the hunt for a piece from Corvey for quite a long time....decent examples are harder to find than one might expect. The abbey has an interesting history dating to the early 9th century near the time that bishoprics Hildesheim, Halberstadt, and Paderborn were established. Corvey’s first abbot, Adalard of Corbie, was a cousin of Charlemagne. Relics of St Vitus (pictured on the obv) were gifted to the young abbey in 836 from abbey of St Denis near Paris. NGC EF-40. DAV-2199.
How about a 2/3 Thaler? 1693 Henneberg.
One of mine, don't collect it.
Peace.
Here's a new acquisition of mine:
IG: DeCourcyCoinsEbay: neilrobertson
"Numismatic categorizations, if left unconstrained, will increase spontaneously over time." -me
@Stella,
This coin is a newp from NYINC that I once chased years ago when SB auctioned off the world collection of John Whitney Walter. Previous to that, he had an ancients collection and a highly specialized US collection of 1796-dated die varieties (Mr. 1796 collection).
He’s also a past member of the NY Numismatic Club.
EVP
How does one get a hater to stop hating?
I can be reached at evillageprowler@gmail.com
@EVillageProwler Neat piece and a neat story! Pretty cool.
A rather obscure taler from Abbey of Murbach and Luders in upper Alsace, struck during the seat of Archduke Leopold Wilhelm of Austria (younger brother of Emperor Ferdinand III). The taler was struck circa 1630 (no date) in the Ensisheim mint. PCGS AU-58. KM-24; DAV-5617B.
Despite not being a member of the clergy, the Archduke held various Prince-Bishoprics within the Holy Roman Empire to provide him an income: Halberstadt (1628–1648), Passau (1625–1662), Breslau (1656–1662), Olmütz (1637–1662) and Strasbourg (1626–1662). He became the Grand Master of the Teutonic Order in 1641. Family connections certainly helped back in the day.....
The Murbach abbey and monastery existed for over 1,000 years before it was sacked during French Revolution in1789 and dissolved not long after.
Just had this one graded. The grade surprised me although it is a beautiful coin - like many of this type the face is just beat up mush (see thread here!). Clear 3/2 overdate. Looks like they had a lot of trouble with the letters on the obverse, too. Lots and lots of luster. Top pop!
My current "Box of 20"
I am no longer thaler-less now!
Does this count?
My modest contribution
I'm BACK!!! Used to be Billet7 on the old forum.
@SimonW Close enough for me!
My current "Box of 20"
Added the elusive 1732 Mainz 1/4 taler from the January Heritage auction to compliment the 1/2 and 1 talers I have of the same date. Reported mintage of 200 per denomination makes this a challenging run to assemble. The 3 pictured below are the only examples graded by both NGC and PCGS. Still searching for the 1/8 taler denomination.
1732 Mainz 1/4 schautaler
Commemorates the death of archbishop of Mainz Philipp Karl von Eltz-Kempenich. Features St. Martin on horseback.
Those are really cool @worldcoinguy
This is new, not a full Thaler, can I have 2/3 of the credit? 😂
I'm BACK!!! Used to be Billet7 on the old forum.
@SimonW - you can never go wrong with a wildman. I like the deep tone on that one.
@SimonW That counts in my book!
Here is another fractional Wildman to go with yours:
