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  • FrankH
    FrankH Posts: 982 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @Stella said:
    @lordmarcovan Those count too in my book!

    @jt88 Very pretty White Swan.

    Wouldn't you know it? I get excited over a floating bird and it's a pop 1/0 :'(

  • Que_sai_je
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    PSA: Don't believe everything you read. This the scarce one taler, not the extremely rare 1 1/4 taler as slabbed. Coin is no longer in the holder. Not throwing stones, understandable data entry mistake, it happens. A buyer, IMO, does have some responsibility to know what they are paying for.

  • worldcoinguy
    worldcoinguy Posts: 3,066 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @Que_sai_je - The 1 1/4 shows a weight of 35.8g. Is the weight the only differentiator between the two? Identifying the mistake is a very tricky endeavor assuming diameter is the same and the taler is housed in the oversized slab.

  • worldcoinguy
    worldcoinguy Posts: 3,066 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 15, 2023 4:41PM
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    1795 Fulda taler (DAV-2265A). One year type issued in the final years of the bishopric (dissolved by Napoleon in 1802). PCGS MS-63. Flat/weak strikes are typical for the issue.

  • worldcoinguy
    worldcoinguy Posts: 3,066 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 13, 2023 12:15PM
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    Corvey taler dated 1723. I've been on the hunt for a piece from Corvey for quite a long time....decent examples are harder to find than one might expect. The abbey has an interesting history dating to the early 9th century near the time that bishoprics Hildesheim, Halberstadt, and Paderborn were established. Corvey’s first abbot, Adalard of Corbie, was a cousin of Charlemagne. Relics of St Vitus (pictured on the obv) were gifted to the young abbey in 836 from abbey of St Denis near Paris. NGC EF-40. DAV-2199.

  • Stella
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    How about a 2/3 Thaler? 1693 Henneberg.


    Coin collector since childhood and New York Numismatist at Heritage Auctions.
  • Sergey74
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    One of mine, don't collect it.

    Sic semper tyrannis.

  • neildrobertson
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    Here's a new acquisition of mine:

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  • Stella
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    @EVillageProwler Neat piece and a neat story! Pretty cool.

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  • worldcoinguy
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    A rather obscure taler from Abbey of Murbach and Luders in upper Alsace, struck during the seat of Archduke Leopold Wilhelm of Austria (younger brother of Emperor Ferdinand III). The taler was struck circa 1630 (no date) in the Ensisheim mint. PCGS AU-58. KM-24; DAV-5617B.

    Despite not being a member of the clergy, the Archduke held various Prince-Bishoprics within the Holy Roman Empire to provide him an income: Halberstadt (1628–1648), Passau (1625–1662), Breslau (1656–1662), Olmütz (1637–1662) and Strasbourg (1626–1662). He became the Grand Master of the Teutonic Order in 1641. Family connections certainly helped back in the day.....

    The Murbach abbey and monastery existed for over 1,000 years before it was sacked during French Revolution in1789 and dissolved not long after.

  • Bob13
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    @SimonW Close enough for me!

    My current "Box of 20"

  • worldcoinguy
    worldcoinguy Posts: 3,066 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 6, 2024 6:28PM
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    Added the elusive 1732 Mainz 1/4 taler from the January Heritage auction to compliment the 1/2 and 1 talers I have of the same date. Reported mintage of 200 per denomination makes this a challenging run to assemble. The 3 pictured below are the only examples graded by both NGC and PCGS. Still searching for the 1/8 taler denomination.

    1732 Mainz 1/4 schautaler
    Commemorates the death of archbishop of Mainz Philipp Karl von Eltz-Kempenich. Features St. Martin on horseback.

  • worldcoinguy
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    @SimonW - you can never go wrong with a wildman. I like the deep tone on that one.

  • worldcoinguy
    worldcoinguy Posts: 3,066 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 16, 2024 8:48AM
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    Time to bump this thread with a new addition - 1/2 taler from Brunswick-Wolfenbuttel. The submission also included a 1/4 taler of same date and design. Anybody else with taler additions in the last 6 months?

  • worldcoinguy
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    Thats a real beauty - very attractive!

  • Bob13
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    edited November 5, 2024 11:45PM
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    Picked this up and it arrived today. Lot of luster left, and nice eye appeal.

    Compare this St. Stephen to the one on my Passau Taler earlier in this thread. Palm frond and stones in both!

    My current "Box of 20"

  • worldcoinguy
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    It looks like a Halberstadt issue. I'm guessing perhaps DAV-6328? That is an outstanding taler - congrats!

  • Coinlover101
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    Wow, nice coins everyone. I'm drooling :#

    I really need to get me a nice Thaler once I have the money :)

    Peace

  • Bob13
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    edited November 6, 2024 10:27AM
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    @worldcoinguy said:
    It looks like a Halberstadt issue. I'm guessing perhaps DAV-6328? That is an outstanding taler - congrats!

    I believe it is 5345... pretty similar though... and yes from Halberstadt.

    Pretty soft strike... but best I can tell there isn't much wear at all.

    My current "Box of 20"

  • worldcoinguy
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    Munster 1688 sede vacante taler from CNG auction in Sept. This is a tough one to find in a straight grade.

  • Zohar
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    @worldcoinguy said:
    Munster 1688 sede vacante taler from CNG auction in Sept. This is a tough one to find in a straight grade.

    Amazing look to it.

    Habsburg Talers

    TalerUniverse.com is a curated numismatic project dedicated to the silver talers, crowns, and medals of the Habsburg Empire and the Holy Roman Empire, spanning the 16th–18th centuries. The collection emphasizes historically significant issues, rare mint varieties, and high-grade NGC/PCGS examples, presented with detailed historical context, scholarly references, and high-resolution photography. TalerUniverse aims to serve both as a private collection showcase and a growing reference resource for collectors, researchers, and students of early-modern European coinage.
  • coinkat
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    Seeing a wide spread of images makes participating here more enjoyable

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  • coinkat
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    I really like the Swedish occupation talker… congrats. Just curious if you bought it raw or already graded? Not that it makes a difference, but sometimes grading expectations can be educational.

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  • Bob13
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    @Zohar - great coins as always.

    Anyone know when the next Bruun sale will be?

    My current "Box of 20"

  • Zohar
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    @coinkat said:
    I really like the Swedish occupation talker… congrats. Just curious if you bought it raw or already graded? Not that it makes a difference, but sometimes grading expectations can be educational.

    Bought it raw on a CNG sale

    Habsburg Talers

    TalerUniverse.com is a curated numismatic project dedicated to the silver talers, crowns, and medals of the Habsburg Empire and the Holy Roman Empire, spanning the 16th–18th centuries. The collection emphasizes historically significant issues, rare mint varieties, and high-grade NGC/PCGS examples, presented with detailed historical context, scholarly references, and high-resolution photography. TalerUniverse aims to serve both as a private collection showcase and a growing reference resource for collectors, researchers, and students of early-modern European coinage.
  • coinkat
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    @Zohar

    Congrats… well done

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  • Cointroversial
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    @worldcoinguy said:
    Munster 1688 sede vacante taler from CNG auction in Sept. This is a tough one to find in a straight grade.

    Fantastic coin, I acquired the 1781 würzburg thaler in the same sale. You maybe know this, but your coin come from the Brand (1861-1926) sale at Leu 67 in 1996.

  • Cointroversial
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    @Zohar said:
    Other crowns





    Great coins form the Bruun collection, did you look any of the Bruun coins before the NCS conservation? Would be interesting to look the genuine patina from the Bruun collection, I already have a list from his collection i'm going to bid on, but i'm turned off from the blast white look...

  • Cointroversial
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    edited December 8, 2024 4:30AM
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    @worldcoinguy said:

    @Cointroversial said:

    @worldcoinguy said:
    Munster 1688 sede vacante taler from CNG auction in Sept. This is a tough one to find in a straight grade.

    Fantastic coin, I acquired the 1781 würzburg thaler in the same sale. You maybe know this, but your coin come from the Brand (1861-1926) sale at Leu 67 in 1996.

    Thank you for pointing out the Brand pedigree on the Munster taler; I was completely unaware. That auction catalogue is amazing.

    The 1781 Wurzburg you won in the same auction has a nice look to it.


    Thank you, it also come from the Brand catalogue in 1988 as lot 2824 with "J. Schulman 11.6.1923, 488". "Alexander Christopher" seems to have purchased from Leu, since more Brand thalers are comming out in the new Triton sale.

    It's a shame people no care for good provenance on "modern" coins, Virgil .M Brand is such an important figure in numismatics. When Lars Emil Bruun met Brand in Chicago during his lifetime, he referred to him as "the man they call the greatest coin collector in the world".

  • Bob13
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    edited December 17, 2024 10:51PM
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    Sigismund Franz, Thaler 1665, Hall
    Not @Zohar level, but still pretty nice!

    My current "Box of 20"

  • Zohar
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    @Bob13 said:
    Sigismund Franz, Thaler 1665, Hall
    Not @Zohar level, but still pretty nice!

    Very nice indeed!

    Habsburg Talers

    TalerUniverse.com is a curated numismatic project dedicated to the silver talers, crowns, and medals of the Habsburg Empire and the Holy Roman Empire, spanning the 16th–18th centuries. The collection emphasizes historically significant issues, rare mint varieties, and high-grade NGC/PCGS examples, presented with detailed historical context, scholarly references, and high-resolution photography. TalerUniverse aims to serve both as a private collection showcase and a growing reference resource for collectors, researchers, and students of early-modern European coinage.
  • WillieBoyd2
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    edited December 19, 2024 9:00AM
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    :)

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  • worldcoinguy
    worldcoinguy Posts: 3,066 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    New addition - first graded by either NGC or PCGS. I've been admiring the type for years and this one came through Kunker recently and I had to make a go at it. DAV-2825. NGC AU-55.

    The taler completes the trio for the 1715 sede vacante issues from Trier. Each is the only graded at either service.

    1715 Trier 1/2 taler (NGC AU-58):

    1715 Trier 1/4 taler (PCGS AU-50):

  • Bob13
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    Wow @worldcoinguy ! Those are great!

    Waiting for this PallasTaler.

    My current "Box of 20"

  • TwoKopeiki
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    Impressive additions! Congrats guys

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