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LuxorLuxor Posts: 615 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited September 9, 2023 5:36PM in U.S. Coin Forum

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    DennisHDennisH Posts: 14,044 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 9, 2023 5:54AM

    My WAG is AU55, even though I don't collect the series and there are missing letters in PLURIBUS.

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    TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 45,297 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 9, 2023 6:01AM

    Au 58 ez

    Edit: But my guess is AU 62
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    ARCOARCO Posts: 4,485 ✭✭✭✭✭

    AU58 or MS62.

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    maymay Posts: 1,698 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Super slider or low MS.

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    U1chicagoU1chicago Posts: 7,040 ✭✭✭✭✭

    MS 62

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    MFeldMFeld Posts: 17,436 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I’d grade it 58 but wouldn’t be at all surprised if it’s in an unc. grade holder.

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    MaywoodMaywood Posts: 4,652 ✭✭✭✭✭

    AU58 and pretty.

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    BillJonesBillJones Posts: 36,020 ✭✭✭✭✭

    AU-58, but I image that it's in an MS-62 holder.

    The piece has what has been called "envelope or cabinet friction."

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    pcgscacgoldpcgscacgold Posts: 3,867 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I am just starting out with this series and thinking of collecting CBH's. I will go with AU58 on this one but as others have said it could be MS62. I have a lot of research to do.

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    pursuitoflibertypursuitofliberty Posts: 7,964 ✭✭✭✭✭

    As many have said it's either a 58 or a 62 ... neither would surprise me ... and in many cases for coins like what this one appears to be, neither is necessarily wrong

    Nice eye appeal IMO as well


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    jfriedm56jfriedm56 Posts: 3,125 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I would think 58. Looks like light friction but could be a soft strike.

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    semikeycollectorsemikeycollector Posts: 1,463 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I thought as high as MS-63.

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    Cougar1978Cougar1978 Posts: 10,113 ✭✭✭✭✭

    AU 58

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    jacrispiesjacrispies Posts: 1,662 ✭✭✭✭✭

    First thought was 58 but in an NGC 62.

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    logger7logger7 Posts: 10,001 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I've seen both NGC and PCGS grade coins like that as MS63.

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    crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 14,258 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks ms and probably a 63

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    jayPemjayPem Posts: 4,121 ✭✭✭✭✭

    45
    Someone has to throw out something different here...
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    ThreeCentSilverFLThreeCentSilverFL Posts: 1,700 ✭✭✭✭✭

    58 or 62

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    NumisOxideNumisOxide Posts: 11,050 ✭✭✭✭✭

    58

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    privatecoinprivatecoin Posts: 3,905 ✭✭✭✭✭

    AU63

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    GrantuGrantu Posts: 208 ✭✭✭

    62

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    fluffy155fluffy155 Posts: 299 ✭✭✭✭✭

    55 or 58. There seems to be clear wear on the bust, cap, and the facing wing. Still has a lot of nice luster so I'll put it at 58, too much wear for an MS holder though.

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    goldrealmoney79goldrealmoney79 Posts: 417 ✭✭✭

    Slider, I want to say its a 55/58. However wouldnt be surprised to see this in a 61 holder

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    cappedlibertyxcappedlibertyx Posts: 58 ✭✭✭

    MS 62

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    mlittlemlittle Posts: 191 ✭✭✭

    AU55

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    VictaVicta Posts: 43 ✭✭✭

    AU58

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    johnny010johnny010 Posts: 1,857 ✭✭✭✭✭

    PCGS 58
    NGC MS62

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    JonBrand83JonBrand83 Posts: 490 ✭✭✭✭✭

    55

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    spyglassdesignspyglassdesign Posts: 1,634 ✭✭✭✭✭

    At least 58 imo... Shot Unc.

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    marcmoishmarcmoish Posts: 6,979 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @fluffy155 said:
    55 or 58. There seems to be clear wear on the bust, cap, and the facing wing. Still has a lot of nice luster so I'll put it at 58, too much wear for an MS holder though.

    Exactly, well said, I'm at 58 too.

    (I would have gone 55, but giving it extra merit for the great EA)

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    spyglassdesignspyglassdesign Posts: 1,634 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Luxor said:

    Not surprised... Sometimes areas that look like wear aren't in hand. Coin photography is tough.

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    kazkaz Posts: 9,400 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks like a classic "AU 63!"

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    ElcontadorElcontador Posts: 7,743 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The uneven toning on the obverse is suspect. You need to see this coin. If you really want to buy an Unc. in this series, it needs to be MS 63 or better. Due to these coins not being minted on the steam press, Uncs are often not fully struck and you need to know the variety to see if this is an issue.

    Also, coins with "cabinet friction" ie., wear on their high points, sometimes get a pass if they have nice appeal in the MS 58 - 63 range. Lastly, NGC has traditionally been 1/2 to 3/4 point looser in MS 65. Don't know re MS 63, but I imagine this sort of thing applies in MS 63 to some degree, as well.

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    spyglassdesignspyglassdesign Posts: 1,634 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Elcontador said:
    The uneven toning on the obverse is suspect. You need to see this coin. If you really want to buy an Unc. in this series, it needs to be MS 63 or better. Due to these coins not being minted on the steam press, Uncs are often not fully struck and you need to know the variety to see if this is an issue.

    Also, coins with "cabinet friction" ie., wear on their high points, sometimes get a pass if they have nice appeal in the MS 58 - 63 range. Lastly, NGC has traditionally been 1/2 to 3/4 point looser in MS 65. Don't know re MS 63, but I imagine this sort of thing applies in MS 63 to some degree, as well.

    We'll it is an ngc ms63... But your point about a little cabinet friction may be what many of us saw as potential wear. It can be hard to distinguish the two in hand, nevermind by photo.

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    TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 45,297 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice 1.... Threw me off !

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    Pnies20Pnies20 Posts: 2,606 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I guessed without cheating and I came up with 62. There's nothing AU about this coin. I can see PCGS being cranky about the weak scroll on the reverse.

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