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    balco758balco758 Posts: 1,330 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Whaaaaaaaaat? Holy smokes the OPC Thurm!!!!!!

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    olb31olb31 Posts: 3,065 ✭✭✭✭✭

    tom, you're just showing off now. lol!! unbelievable card.

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    brad31brad31 Posts: 2,617 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Wow that Palmer rookie is sick!! Congrats.

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    82FootballWaxMemorys82FootballWaxMemorys Posts: 1,344 ✭✭✭✭✭

    ^Well centered as well!!!

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    pjb103183pjb103183 Posts: 1,330 ✭✭✭

    Didn’t even know one of these existed

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    reelinintheyearsreelinintheyears Posts: 241 ✭✭✭

    This '75 OPC Ryan PSA 9 (pop 13, no 10's) is at $1,525 after only 5 hours of bidding and still has 9 days 19 hours left to go!

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/325723224197

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    olb31olb31 Posts: 3,065 ✭✭✭✭✭

    it's at 3100 now. big time card. i got lucky and picked up an 8 about a year ago for $500. this auction will show how much the pop/supply matters. even if its o-pee-chee.

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    balco758balco758 Posts: 1,330 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 8, 2023 3:05PM

    $4,125 lol

    Prob made a mistake and recently sold my OPC PSA 9 #660 Aaron. Was a pop 8.

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    reelinintheyearsreelinintheyears Posts: 241 ✭✭✭

    @balco758 said:

    Prob made a mistake and recently sold my OPC PSA 9 #660 Aaron. Was a pop 8.

    If anyone is going to sell a card like yours or the Ryan in question (low pop with limited sales history), I highly recommend an auction format rather than setting a fixed price. Of course there is some risk involved in doing so but the potential upside makes the risk worthwhile in my opinion.

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    82FootballWaxMemorys82FootballWaxMemorys Posts: 1,344 ✭✭✭✭✭

    ^ If there was 1 PSA10 and not zero do you feel it would keep the price down?

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    reelinintheyearsreelinintheyears Posts: 241 ✭✭✭

    @82FootballWaxMemorys said:
    ^ If there was 1 PSA10 and not zero do you feel it would keep the price down?

    Some collectors with deep pockets will only pursue the highest graded card available, so yes it is possible that the existence of even a single 10 could result in fewer bidders for a 9 and a somewhat lower winning bid as a result.

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    80sOPC80sOPC Posts: 1,271 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Bonds GOAT and his 87 OPC is a nightmare to find centered. 85 Puckett OPC is tough as well, I have abut 40 in my no sub pile.

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    countdouglascountdouglas Posts: 2,295 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @80sOPC said:
    Bonds GOAT and his 87 OPC is a nightmare to find centered. 85 Puckett OPC is tough as well, I have abut 40 in my no sub pile.

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    The OPC Bonds is a corner card (on the bottom right of the sheet), a notoriously tough position for well centered, sharp cornered cards.
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    coolstanleycoolstanley Posts: 2,494 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 9, 2023 8:54AM

    The 87 OPC Bonds has gone way down in value the last couple years.

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    tsalems1tsalems1 Posts: 3,373 ✭✭✭

    There are sheet cut 10’s on Bonds and the true population is higher than it should be

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    olb31olb31 Posts: 3,065 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @tsalems1 said:
    There are sheet cut 10’s on Bonds and the true population is higher than it should be

    i got a psa 10, the hard way, i ordered 7 boxes from kruk cards for $125 about 8 years ago. i opened 2 and the kept the others unopened (i also accumulated about 8 more when the prices were about $15 a box). i gpt 3 bonds two where badly off-centered, but the third one was perfect. it graded a 10. i listed it on ebay for $1200. the previous high sale was $450. i was surprised that it sold rather quickly.

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    olb31olb31 Posts: 3,065 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @coolstanley said:
    The 87 OPC Bonds has gone way down in value the last couple years.

    i think its still around 9k or 10k. but a lot lower than the 20k listed by psa a few months ago. 9's are at least $500 or maybe a little more. i picked up a bunch of these off comc for $2 apiece about 5 or 6 years ago. three graded 9. plus i have several 8's. the 9's look awfully sharp. i think they could be 10's or at least one of them has a great shot.

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    80sOPC80sOPC Posts: 1,271 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Three 9s and a ten on that card, pack pulled, is incredible.

    Also agree with above and the number of sheet cut in slabs. If it is 50/50, no tilt at all, I have a hard time believing it came from a pack.

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    olb31olb31 Posts: 3,065 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @80sOPC said:
    Three 9s and a ten on that card, pack pulled, is incredible.

    Also agree with above and the number of sheet cut in slabs. If it is 50/50, no tilt at all, I have a hard time believing it came from a pack.

    The one i got a 10 on was as close to 50/50 as it could be no tilt. The 9's may have a very slight tilt, maybe. But it's would be barely tilted.

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    olb31olb31 Posts: 3,065 ✭✭✭✭✭

    PSA price guide has the 1975 OPC Nolan Ryan listed at $1,200. Why even have a price guide if it's that incorrect. To me the Price Guide is a valuable tool, especially for newbie's and having the correct price can substantiate your the PSA brand. It would look better for PSA to have the prices slightly on the high side versus rock bottom.

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    olb31olb31 Posts: 3,065 ✭✭✭✭✭

    i think PSA should seek volunteers to monitor the Price Guide (knowledgeable ones). If they asked me to keep up with certain sets and certain years, i would be glad to assist to the best of my ability. The Price guide is certainly a huge selling point.

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    olb31olb31 Posts: 3,065 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice cards. They are very rare in PSA 9. Most have pops less than 35.

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    BBBrkrrBBBrkrr Posts: 1,030 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Those Bretts are amazing, but I give my vote to the Schmidt. I can't ever seem to find one of those with perfect centering.

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    olb31olb31 Posts: 3,065 ✭✭✭✭✭

    yeah the schmidt is the best

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    waxman2745waxman2745 Posts: 734 ✭✭✭
    edited July 13, 2023 6:19AM

    @SlipC That Brett looks like a 10. Great eye appeal on those cards. Great pickups.

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    olb31olb31 Posts: 3,065 ✭✭✭✭✭

    1976 opc the most psa 9's of one card is 10, well over 100 cards have psa 9's of over 100.

    1977 opc the most PSA 9's of one card is 41 - George Brett, topps version has 343 psa 9's.

    1978 OPC two cards, the nolan ryan and nolan ryan leader have a psa 9 pop of over 100

    1979 opc the most psa 9's of one card is johnny bench with 70, topps version has 714 psa 9's.

    1980 opc the most psa 9's of one card card is johnny bench with 45, topps version has 443 psa 9's.

    1981 opc the most psa 9's of one card card is tim raines with 73, topps version has 1489 psa 9's.

    1982 opc the most psa 9's of one card card is nolan ryan with 95, topps version has 1611 psa 9's.

    these numbers are staggeringly lower than the topps version. only 2 cards from 1976 - 1982 have a psa 9 pop of 100 or more. most of the cards in these sets barely have about 10 -15 psa 9's.

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    EstilEstil Posts: 6,955 ✭✭✭✭

    @EldoEsq said:
    Hardly an 8...but when i saw this card for $150 at a show, i threw my money at the dealer!

    It looks all sun faded though :(

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    smallstockssmallstocks Posts: 1,608 ✭✭✭✭

    @olb31 said:
    1976 opc the most psa 9's of one card is 10, well over 100 cards have psa 9's of over 100.

    1977 opc the most PSA 9's of one card is 41 - George Brett, topps version has 343 psa 9's.

    1978 OPC two cards, the nolan ryan and nolan ryan leader have a psa 9 pop of over 100

    1979 opc the most psa 9's of one card is johnny bench with 70, topps version has 714 psa 9's.

    1980 opc the most psa 9's of one card card is johnny bench with 45, topps version has 443 psa 9's.

    1981 opc the most psa 9's of one card card is tim raines with 73, topps version has 1489 psa 9's.

    1982 opc the most psa 9's of one card card is nolan ryan with 95, topps version has 1611 psa 9's.

    these numbers are staggeringly lower than the topps version. only 2 cards from 1976 - 1982 have a psa 9 pop of 100 or more. most of the cards in these sets barely have about 10 -15 psa 9's.

    I will add 1972 OPC vs, Topps. Roberto Clemente #309 is the highest OPC pop in PSA 9 with 21. There are 379 Topps 9's and 24 10's. I have a bunch of PSA 9 cards from the set that are Pop 2 or 3 that I bought for pennies.


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    Kepper19Kepper19 Posts: 317 ✭✭✭

    @waxman2745 said:
    @SlipC That Brett looks like a 10. Great eye appeal on those cards. Great pickups.

    it has a tilt, but a very nice card nonetheless

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    brad31brad31 Posts: 2,617 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 14, 2023 9:16AM

    I truly wish this thread would die!! I like OPC and enjoy getting what feels like a bargain. I have hundreds more I want than I have. Hope prices stay down!!

    Enjoy all the pictures but not all the pop and price talk.

    Seriously those 77s are amazing. Enjoyed seeing those.

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    olb31olb31 Posts: 3,065 ✭✭✭✭✭

    ive got about half of 1980 set in psa 9 or 10. just haven't listed them.

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    reelinintheyearsreelinintheyears Posts: 241 ✭✭✭

    @reelinintheyears said:
    This '75 OPC Ryan PSA 9 (pop 13, no 10's) is at $1,525 after only 5 hours of bidding and still has 9 days 19 hours left to go!

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/325723224197

    This card sold today for $6,850, more than 3x the price of the one sold on eBay on 10/29/20 for $2,214! The value of these low pop cards are really tough to predict.

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    olb31olb31 Posts: 3,065 ✭✭✭✭✭

    i won the 1973 opc psa 8 for $500. pop 25. only 4 psa 9's no 10's. not a perfect copy from the centering perspective, but unbelievably rare in this condition. pumped up about it. should have never sold for the same price as a topps, which has 869 psa 8's,

    the 1975 opc psa 9 is a monumental sale.

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    waxman2745waxman2745 Posts: 734 ✭✭✭

    Greg Morris ran an auction for a partial set of 440 VGEX-EXMT commons from 1970 that sold for $765. 1970 is such a tough year to find in high grade and this sale price reflects an increased demand for high grade OPC baseball.

    Adam
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    BaltimoreYankeeBaltimoreYankee Posts: 2,930 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 31, 2023 8:25AM

    @waxman2745 said:
    Greg Morris ran an auction for a partial set of 440 VGEX-EXMT commons from 1970 that sold for $765. 1970 is such a tough year to find in high grade and this sale price reflects an increased demand for high grade OPC baseball.

    I was the underbidder on that lot last night. Wish I went a little higher but you never know how high the winner was going to go.

    Daniel
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    waxman2745waxman2745 Posts: 734 ✭✭✭

    @BaltimoreYankee said:

    @waxman2745 said:
    Greg Morris ran an auction for a partial set of 440 VGEX-EXMT commons from 1970 that sold for $765. 1970 is such a tough year to find in high grade and this sale price reflects an increased demand for high grade OPC baseball.

    I was the underbidder on that lot last night. Wish I went a little higher but you never know how high the winner was going to go.

    I'm sorry you didn't win it. I was watching the set but did not bid. 1970 is a tough year for sure.

    Adam
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    BaltimoreYankeeBaltimoreYankee Posts: 2,930 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 31, 2023 10:17AM

    @waxman2745 said:

    @BaltimoreYankee said:

    @waxman2745 said:
    Greg Morris ran an auction for a partial set of 440 VGEX-EXMT commons from 1970 that sold for $765. 1970 is such a tough year to find in high grade and this sale price reflects an increased demand for high grade OPC baseball.

    I was the underbidder on that lot last night. Wish I went a little higher but you never know how high the winner was going to go.

    I'm sorry you didn't win it. I was watching the set but did not bid. 1970 is a tough year for sure.

    I'm currently working on a 1971 set. I know acquiring Clemente and Yaz (among others) will be tough.
    One thing that makes the 1970 set easier is there are no high #s. That 440 card lot would be a huge head start as the complete set is just 546 cards.

    Daniel
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    olb31olb31 Posts: 3,065 ✭✭✭✭✭

    From 1976 to 1982 number of psa 10's

    topps = 93,143

    OPC = 4,438

    Just an fyi.

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    JoeBanzaiJoeBanzai Posts: 11,370 ✭✭✭✭✭

    ^4.75%^
    Seems about right.

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    coinspackscoinspacks Posts: 979 ✭✭✭✭

    Anyone ever see a 1969 opc baseball wax pack? I haven't.

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    olb31olb31 Posts: 3,065 ✭✭✭✭✭

    neat. never seen one before.

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    brad31brad31 Posts: 2,617 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thanks for posting the ‘68 Pack - was not aware that the wrappers were different and I love that ultra bright yellow.

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    RonSportscardsRonSportscards Posts: 834 ✭✭✭✭

    @olb31 said:
    From 1976 to 1982 number of psa 10's

    topps = 93,143

    OPC = 4,438

    Just an fyi.

    How much influence does the registry have on demand, collectability and pricing?
    I see team sets and key card sets only requiring the Topps versions.
    Some Topps cards are going for more money than the OPC version despite the rarity and pop numbers.

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