Did you know that from 1965 - 1982 for O-Pee-Chee, there is only one card with more than 100 PSA 9's, a 1978 Nolan Ryan.
I didn't count the topps cards from 1965 - 1982 with a pop of 100 or more in PSA 9, but it's over 1,000.
@PaulMaul said:
This is what I don’t get about OPC…the 9s and the 5s look the same!
Since it's an older flip, I can't chalk the seemingly low grade up to the current grading standards. I assume that there's a flaw that's not detectable when viewing the photo. As a collector of OPC's from this era, if the poster of this card is aware of the flaw that resulted in what appears to be an 8-9 being a 5 I'd love to know.
This was regarding the 1972 OPC Mays. I didn't post it to this thread but sold it on eBay to the person who did. I recall looking over the card really good and felt that it was a great card for a 5. It was part of a lot of 6 OPC Mays cards that I bought (2 each 1971, 72, 73) which were 4s and 5s and I felt they all were great for the grade.
I own the card now.
The upper left corner of the card curves downward slightly. Hard to tell if this would have been the result of a factory rough cut as the blade exited the card or that the card had some downward pressure corner compression at some point.
Regardless, I feel like it is a stellar 5 and one would not necessarily pick up on that corner if it was not specifically mentioned.
@beachbumcollecting said:
these Aaron years cards are some of my favorite OPC's
Agreed! I especially like the ones showing just 2 cards each as they are different from Topps. I have a few of them and have been on the lookout for reasonable priced ones that don't look like they were cut by a third grader . This is a great one you have here.
For years I thought the Aaron Specials were all two cards and assumed it was necessary in order to get the English and French in the back. When I saw the first 4 card one, I knew my theory was wrong. I later learned it was because they only showed the Aaron cards made by OPC.
@brad31 said:
For years I thought the Aaron Specials were all two cards and assumed it was necessary in order to get the English and French in the back. When I saw the first 4 card one, I knew my theory was wrong. I later learned it was because they only showed the Aaron cards made by OPC.
The OPC Aaron Specials still cover all of the cards from 1954-1973. There are just three extra cards due to the six cards with only two images. So it is
Looking at the card backs, it does appear that OPC wanted a larger number of cards to accommodate bilingual backs. The ML Records and Milestone Homers backs were kept at one card each. The “memorable homers” back was split into two OPC backs. Finally the two Topps backs giving Hank’s year by year accomplishments were split into four OPC backs. That accounts for the three extra cards.
@beachbumcollecting said:
these Aaron years cards are some of my favorite OPC's
Agreed! I especially like the ones showing just 2 cards each as they are different from Topps. I have a few of them and have been on the lookout for reasonable priced ones that don't look like they were cut by a third grader . This is a great one you have here.
Here is a scan I had handy of one of the 2 player ones. Very Fun
@brad31 said:
For years I thought the Aaron Specials were all two cards and assumed it was necessary in order to get the English and French in the back. When I saw the first 4 card one, I knew my theory was wrong. I later learned it was because they only showed the Aaron cards made by OPC.
The OPC Aaron Specials still cover all of the cards from 1954-1973. There are just three extra cards due to the six cards with only two images. So it is
Looking at the card backs, it does appear that OPC wanted a larger number of cards to accommodate bilingual backs. The ML Records and Milestone Homers backs were kept at one card each. The “memorable homers” back was split into two OPC backs. Finally the two Topps backs giving Hank’s year by year accomplishments were split into four OPC backs. That accounts for the three extra cards.
Thanks for the info. Glad to know the real story. Love learning from this board.
I've noticed that low pop 1973 OPC in PSA9 tend to sell for less than much higher pop 1973 Topps. Yet move up a decade later and OPC PSA10 sales usually exceed Topps sometimes by 2x-3x.
Is my non-scientific observation correct? If so, why no 1973 OPC love?
It's the singer not the song - Peter Townshend (1972)
the 1980's belong to opc over topps. mainly because of the bonds card explosion a few years back. my opinion is ignorance to some degree. people just don't realize just how rare these cards are.
ozzie 1979 and eddie 1978 opc should be light years ahead. of the topps versions.
sometimes without sells it's hard to know how much something is worth. opc's are so rare they may fall into that category.
The supply of graded cards is also low due to lack of demand, unfortunately. The stars and HOFers sell well due to the player set registry but OPC commons, at least for the 70s sets I collect, lag considerably in value behind their more plentiful Topps counterparts despite limited pops and it has been that way for decades now.
Personally, I love 1973 OPC baseball and have pulled a number of pop 1 and pop 2 PSA 10s from packs over the years. Just got this one back from PSA recently. Below the pack, is one of those pop 1 PSA 10s.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
nice pack and Dodgers team card. I have finished the 1978 OPC registry set. It took about 10 years and even then I need to upgrade several of the cards. What I found hard about grading the set is the lack of supply. Even when you find ungraded ones they are horribly miscut or off-centered.
For 1981 and up the supply seems to be a little better maybe double the percentage from the 1970's. And I think that's why you see the 1980's opc selling for so much and seems to be at least equal to the Topps brand in demand.
There just isn't enough sells of the 1976 and back to set a market price. And then one does come along like the 1974 Schmidt OCP psa 7 the other day, you won't see another one for two or three years.
It's easy to set the market with Ryan's and Mantle's because they are in ultra high demand and sell quite often as well as having a nice supply on ebay. So it's easy to say a 1979 opc nolan ryan psa 9 is worth $500 because there are multiple sells. But to set a market on a 1976 opc psa 8 brett or ryan is very difficult due to the lack of supply. you almost never see one, so no one knows what to bid on it. The unknowing slows down desire somewhat. even though someone might really want it, they don't have a way to determine if they are getting a fair deal.
@smallstocks said:
Robert Edwards Auctions last night:
1971 O-PEE-CHEE REGGIE JACKSON #20 PSA 8 - $1,230 Pop 4 with only 2 higher
Two auction sales in May of the Topps Reggie 8 - $2,235 and $2,100. Pop 165 with 17 higher.
Just saying . . .
I tried to bid in that auction, but it said I haven't completed registration. I'm a new signup, and got emails saying registration complete and I'm ready to bid, so I don't know.
nice pack and Dodgers team card. I have finished the 1978 OPC registry set. It took about 10 years and even then I need to upgrade several of the cards. What I found hard about grading the set is the lack of supply. Even when you find ungraded ones they are horribly miscut or off-centered.
For 1981 and up the supply seems to be a little better maybe double the percentage from the 1970's. And I think that's why you see the 1980's opc selling for so much and seems to be at least equal to the Topps brand in demand.
There just isn't enough sells of the 1976 and back to set a market price. And then one does come along like the 1974 Schmidt OCP psa 7 the other day, you won't see another one for two or three years.
It's easy to set the market with Ryan's and Mantle's because they are in ultra high demand and sell quite often as well as having a nice supply on ebay. So it's easy to say a 1979 opc nolan ryan psa 9 is worth $500 because there are multiple sells. But to set a market on a 1976 opc psa 8 brett or ryan is very difficult due to the lack of supply. you almost never see one, so no one knows what to bid on it. The unknowing slows down desire somewhat. even though someone might really want it, they don't have a way to determine if they are getting a fair deal.
I'd seriously love to see it! It was your posts that inspired me to seek the one 1978 OPC I truly wanted; Reggie Jackson. I'm still seeking some non Yankees cards
It's the singer not the song - Peter Townshend (1972)
nice pack and Dodgers team card. I have finished the 1978 OPC registry set. It took about 10 years and even then I need to upgrade several of the cards. What I found hard about grading the set is the lack of supply. Even when you find ungraded ones they are horribly miscut or off-centered.
For 1981 and up the supply seems to be a little better maybe double the percentage from the 1970's. And I think that's why you see the 1980's opc selling for so much and seems to be at least equal to the Topps brand in demand.
There just isn't enough sells of the 1976 and back to set a market price. And then one does come along like the 1974 Schmidt OCP psa 7 the other day, you won't see another one for two or three years.
It's easy to set the market with Ryan's and Mantle's because they are in ultra high demand and sell quite often as well as having a nice supply on ebay. So it's easy to say a 1979 opc nolan ryan psa 9 is worth $500 because there are multiple sells. But to set a market on a 1976 opc psa 8 brett or ryan is very difficult due to the lack of supply. you almost never see one, so no one knows what to bid on it. The unknowing slows down desire somewhat. even though someone might really want it, they don't have a way to determine if they are getting a fair deal.
Thanks Dave! Love the Partridges! I have the top OPC sets, both blue and yellow, on the registry. If you are looking for any more, or just have questions, feel free to PM me.
Thanks Dave! Love the Partridges! I have the top OPC sets, both blue and yellow, on the registry. If you are looking for any more, or just have questions, feel free to PM me.
just looked at the listings, I am very impressed and so jelly. Any chance you will add pics? please!
It's the singer not the song - Peter Townshend (1972)
Very proud to own this 1971 OPC Clemente PSA 5. I've not had the chance to bid on more than one or two in better condition in the last five years. Always on the search for a better example, but this is just about as good as it gets with this card.
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Great looking card,
Did you know that from 1965 - 1982 for O-Pee-Chee, there is only one card with more than 100 PSA 9's, a 1978 Nolan Ryan.
I didn't count the topps cards from 1965 - 1982 with a pop of 100 or more in PSA 9, but it's over 1,000.
This was regarding the 1972 OPC Mays. I didn't post it to this thread but sold it on eBay to the person who did. I recall looking over the card really good and felt that it was a great card for a 5. It was part of a lot of 6 OPC Mays cards that I bought (2 each 1971, 72, 73) which were 4s and 5s and I felt they all were great for the grade.
The back must have crazy issues, or the grader's dog must have died that morning. Sheesh.
that is an insanely nice bench. I would be very happy to own it.
George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.
I picked up this low pop beauty last month.
Terry Bradshaw was AMAZING!!
Ignore list -Basebal21
that is a great looking schmidt.
George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.
I agree, very close to a 10 in my opinion.
I own the card now.
The upper left corner of the card curves downward slightly. Hard to tell if this would have been the result of a factory rough cut as the blade exited the card or that the card had some downward pressure corner compression at some point.
Regardless, I feel like it is a stellar 5 and one would not necessarily pick up on that corner if it was not specifically mentioned.
1974 opc Schimdt psa 7 sold for $425 last night. Topps psa 7 sale for around $75.
score one for OPC!
George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.
Just picked up an awesome 1977 opc psa 9 eckersley. Perfect centering. $125. Topps sale for around $90-$100
O-pee-chee pop 26 for psa 9 and 3 for psa 10
topps pop 264 for psa 9 and 34 for psa 10.
When there are less opc psa 9's than topps psa 10's, that's a pretty darn hard card to come by of a HOFER.
I think this is a case where the insanely low populations compared to the Topps is enough to overcome the lesser demand!
PSA 7 12 vs. 959
PSA 8 7 vs. 1294
PSA 9 2 vs. 395
PSA 10 0 vs. 13
these Aaron years cards are some of my favorite OPC's
Agreed! I especially like the ones showing just 2 cards each as they are different from Topps. I have a few of them and have been on the lookout for reasonable priced ones that don't look like they were cut by a third grader . This is a great one you have here.
.
For years I thought the Aaron Specials were all two cards and assumed it was necessary in order to get the English and French in the back. When I saw the first 4 card one, I knew my theory was wrong. I later learned it was because they only showed the Aaron cards made by OPC.
The OPC Aaron Specials still cover all of the cards from 1954-1973. There are just three extra cards due to the six cards with only two images. So it is
2 1954-1957
3 1958,1959
4 1960,1961
5 1962,1963
6 1964,1965
7 1966,1967
8 1968,1969
9 1970-1973
Looking at the card backs, it does appear that OPC wanted a larger number of cards to accommodate bilingual backs. The ML Records and Milestone Homers backs were kept at one card each. The “memorable homers” back was split into two OPC backs. Finally the two Topps backs giving Hank’s year by year accomplishments were split into four OPC backs. That accounts for the three extra cards.
Here is a scan I had handy of one of the 2 player ones. Very Fun
Thanks for the info. Glad to know the real story. Love learning from this board.
here are three of my favorite OPC cards
those are some great examples!!
George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.
All worth more than their topps counter part.
I've noticed that low pop 1973 OPC in PSA9 tend to sell for less than much higher pop 1973 Topps. Yet move up a decade later and OPC PSA10 sales usually exceed Topps sometimes by 2x-3x.
Is my non-scientific observation correct? If so, why no 1973 OPC love?
It's the singer not the song - Peter Townshend (1972)
the 1980's belong to opc over topps. mainly because of the bonds card explosion a few years back. my opinion is ignorance to some degree. people just don't realize just how rare these cards are.
ozzie 1979 and eddie 1978 opc should be light years ahead. of the topps versions.
sometimes without sells it's hard to know how much something is worth. opc's are so rare they may fall into that category.
The supply of graded cards is also low due to lack of demand, unfortunately. The stars and HOFers sell well due to the player set registry but OPC commons, at least for the 70s sets I collect, lag considerably in value behind their more plentiful Topps counterparts despite limited pops and it has been that way for decades now.
Personally, I love 1973 OPC baseball and have pulled a number of pop 1 and pop 2 PSA 10s from packs over the years. Just got this one back from PSA recently. Below the pack, is one of those pop 1 PSA 10s.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
Grote (as in Jerry?),
nice pack and Dodgers team card. I have finished the 1978 OPC registry set. It took about 10 years and even then I need to upgrade several of the cards. What I found hard about grading the set is the lack of supply. Even when you find ungraded ones they are horribly miscut or off-centered.
For 1981 and up the supply seems to be a little better maybe double the percentage from the 1970's. And I think that's why you see the 1980's opc selling for so much and seems to be at least equal to the Topps brand in demand.
There just isn't enough sells of the 1976 and back to set a market price. And then one does come along like the 1974 Schmidt OCP psa 7 the other day, you won't see another one for two or three years.
It's easy to set the market with Ryan's and Mantle's because they are in ultra high demand and sell quite often as well as having a nice supply on ebay. So it's easy to say a 1979 opc nolan ryan psa 9 is worth $500 because there are multiple sells. But to set a market on a 1976 opc psa 8 brett or ryan is very difficult due to the lack of supply. you almost never see one, so no one knows what to bid on it. The unknowing slows down desire somewhat. even though someone might really want it, they don't have a way to determine if they are getting a fair deal.
Ebay auction ended same time, same seller.
Ron Leflore 1975 Topps PSA 9 $117.
Ron Leflore 1975 OPC PSA 8 $113.
1982 opc reggie psa 10 sells for $1650
Robert Edwards Auctions last night:
1971 O-PEE-CHEE REGGIE JACKSON #20 PSA 8 - $1,230 Pop 4 with only 2 higher
Two auction sales in May of the Topps Reggie 8 - $2,235 and $2,100. Pop 165 with 17 higher.
Just saying . . .
Late 60's and early to mid 70's non-sports
blows my mind. the opc is so rare. i would say the opc buyer is in the better place to make a profit.
If I wanted to sell it!
Late 60's and early to mid 70's non-sports
I tried to bid in that auction, but it said I haven't completed registration. I'm a new signup, and got emails saying registration complete and I'm ready to bid, so I don't know.
Well off course I have the 1983 in PSA10. foiled yet again
It's the singer not the song - Peter Townshend (1972)
Hi @olb31, any chance you will consider making your set viewable.?
https://www.psacard.com/psasetregistry/baseball/company-sets/1978-o-pee-chee/927
I'd seriously love to see it! It was your posts that inspired me to seek the one 1978 OPC I truly wanted; Reggie Jackson. I'm still seeking some non Yankees cards
It's the singer not the song - Peter Townshend (1972)
Hi olb> @olb31 said:
Hi @olb31, any chance you will consider making your registry set viewable?
https://www.psacard.com/psasetregistry/baseball/company-sets/1978-o-pee-chee/927
I'd seriously love to see it! It was your posts that inspired me to seek out a high grade 1978 OPC Reggie Jackson
It's the singer not the song - Peter Townshend (1972)
I need to update the registry a bit. I haven't in about 4 years. Give me a month or so.
Any thoughts on 1971 Partridge Family OPC ?
It's the singer not the song - Peter Townshend (1972)
The resident Partridge Family expert is @smallstocks
Thanks Dave! Love the Partridges! I have the top OPC sets, both blue and yellow, on the registry. If you are looking for any more, or just have questions, feel free to PM me.
Late 60's and early to mid 70's non-sports
just looked at the listings, I am very impressed and so jelly. Any chance you will add pics? please!
It's the singer not the song - Peter Townshend (1972)
Just a sampling.
Late 60's and early to mid 70's non-sports
Omg @smallstocks and … I quote…… “I Think l Love You!”
Live long, and prosper.
I'm sure glad my #13 was unnamed as part of a lot or I suspect you would have easily outbid me.
It's the singer not the song - Peter Townshend (1972)
Are you trying to collect the set? if so, please pm me.
Late 60's and early to mid 70's non-sports
Very proud to own this 1971 OPC Clemente PSA 5. I've not had the chance to bid on more than one or two in better condition in the last five years. Always on the search for a better example, but this is just about as good as it gets with this card.
-Nathanael
looks more like a 6 to me. very nice card.
Thanks, but I'm a sampler of sets type of collector.
It's the singer not the song - Peter Townshend (1972)