@bgr said:
I do think that the Carew looks very nice for a '78 OPC. I get more dust than cards when I open '78 wax boxes sometimes.
Also - PSA Graders, according to Zip/Glass are paid a pretty low wage. Overall they are doing pretty well for a company that is scaling their business with people making less than gas-station attendants.
buy a 1978 opc psa 10, a common, cut it out, resend it and you will get a 7.
In defense of PSA, I just got back some 75 and 78 OPC cards back and the one that should've graded high, graded high. The OC ones were slammed for that but I did pop 9's and 10's
With my sub of 70s OPC, the ones that shoud've graded high, didn't. And therein lies the problem, consistency.
And they weren't high scrutiny HOFers, they were commons/semi-stars.
Easy 9s with a shot at 10, got 7 and 8s and now not worth the grading fees.
If I got all the 9s and 10s you got, I would be defending PSA too.
I mean, if I cherry-picked the best 70s cards out of the thousands that I have from opening vending, wax, racks and cellos, I would hope I get 9's on many of them with an outside shot at a ten. These aren't cards that I just picked up in a collection. These were the best of the best and from thousands of card and submitted in a 150 card order. Do I expect 9's on all of them? Hell no, not with the print defects and surface issues 70s cards have. With the lower grade ones, its clear that I missed something. Even while they were in the grading queue, I looked them over and realized that centering blew on some and that I missed print defects. Sure enough, the lowest grade in the bunch was the PD I identified with the PSA scans.
As for your last statement, getting a total of 12- 9s and 3 10's- in a 100 card plus sub isn't exactly success. That's 85 cards that got PSA 8 or less. I look at them again, learn and move on. Maybe your expectations are too high? Maybe post a handful of your best and someone can point out potential issues?
@Mikeygiggs_336699 said:
Another 68 Ryan OPC just sold this evening an SGC 4 for $3200! Very strong sale in the grade.
Yes it is. It sold for a lot for the same reason we talk about. Hard to find. As an accountant, the lack of consistency kinda leaves me thinking a bit and why all the superstar opc cards aren't selling for at least double of the topps. but it looks like things are definitely shifting.
I just checked the sold listings of SGC 4 topps ryan rookies. looks like about $650 or so. OPC is selling for worlds more than topps in that grade. like about 5 times more!
I know a lot of us collect vintage -- 1980 and back (heck maybe 1975 and back), but the insert cards of the 90's are intriguing and certainly some are very valuable/collectable. I kind of look at the OPC issue an insert card sort of, for the day. The gold version if you will.
@olb31 said:
I know a lot of us collect vintage -- 1980 and back (heck maybe 1975 and back), but the insert cards of the 90's are intriguing and certainly some are very valuable/collectable. I kind of look at the OPC issue an insert card sort of, for the day. The gold version if you will.
I know you know a ton about OPC; I’ve personally learned a ton specifically from you.
Maybe you can answer this as I’ve always been curious: were these ever for sale “new” outside of Canada?
Like maybe upstate NY or Vermont or any other lower 48 states where there’s a shared border with Canada?
Curious about the rare, mysterious and beautiful 1951 Wheaties Premium Photos?
1951 - i have no idea. the first time i bought opc cards was about 15 years ago. the opc guy that opened the 1977 box a few weeks ago probably knows. i know he knows more than i do about opc. he visits canada regularly.
@olb31 said:
I know a lot of us collect vintage -- 1980 and back (heck maybe 1975 and back), but the insert cards of the 90's are intriguing and certainly some are very valuable/collectable. I kind of look at the OPC issue an insert card sort of, for the day. The gold version if you will.
It is funny you mention this. I started buying OPC for my PC back in the 90s. I pretty much did it for the exact reason you mention. I had already accumulated the topps versions of my favorite players and was looking for something more. like the "gold refractor" version of Brett or Schmidt or Ryans rookies.
while I understand most do not value OPC like the few of us on here do, I have for 30 years considered them hidden gems. Really nicely graded versions have that "exclusive" feel to me.
@olb31 said:
I know a lot of us collect vintage -- 1980 and back (heck maybe 1975 and back), but the insert cards of the 90's are intriguing and certainly some are very valuable/collectable. I kind of look at the OPC issue an insert card sort of, for the day. The gold version if you will.
It is funny you mention this. I started buying OPC for my PC back in the 90s. I pretty much did it for the exact reason you mention. I had already accumulated the topps versions of my favorite players and was looking for something more. like the "gold refractor" version of Brett or Schmidt or Ryans rookies.
while I understand most do not value OPC like the few of us on here do, I have for 30 years considered them hidden gems. Really nicely graded versions have that "exclusive" feel to me.
I collect OPC and consider Venezuela Topps cards another hidden gem
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I mean, if I cherry-picked the best 70s cards out of the thousands that I have from opening vending, wax, racks and cellos, I would hope I get 9's on many of them with an outside shot at a ten. These aren't cards that I just picked up in a collection. These were the best of the best and from thousands of card and submitted in a 150 card order. Do I expect 9's on all of them? Hell no, not with the print defects and surface issues 70s cards have. With the lower grade ones, its clear that I missed something. Even while they were in the grading queue, I looked them over and realized that centering blew on some and that I missed print defects. Sure enough, the lowest grade in the bunch was the PD I identified with the PSA scans.
As for your last statement, getting a total of 12- 9s and 3 10's- in a 100 card plus sub isn't exactly success. That's 85 cards that got PSA 8 or less. I look at them again, learn and move on. Maybe your expectations are too high? Maybe post a handful of your best and someone can point out potential issues?
I only have one OPC baseball card.
Damn! If you're only gonna have one OPC card, that's the one to have!
That is a darn nice OPC!!!!
George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.
That Mantle is SWEET and I'm not even a big Mantle collector.
You don't see card like that often.
1981 Brett OPC PSA 10 sold for $2,250
1981 Schmidt OPC PSA 10 sold for $1,125.
Sounds about right that the best 3rd baseman of all time sold for double the price of Schmidt.
10 Gold Gloves Schmidt
1 For Brett
HR Schmidt
RBI Schmidt
WAR Schmidt 18, Brett 31
Close but I think Schmidt is the best of all-time.
Also, 1 WS each and 1 MVP each (is my memory correct?)...
Can't I just like them both the same???
Schmidt won 3 MVPs
Shows you how strong my memory is...
the thing that really tips the balance in Bretts favor for me is his much greater handling of pine tar. That is undeniable.
George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.
Google Brett’s story on his Vegas pants. This beats the pine tar by a mile.
I agree. I wasnt going to bring it up because it is so, um, runny... but anyone who has not seen him talk about it should immediately go to youtube.
George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.
Another 68 Ryan OPC just sold this evening an SGC 4 for $3200! Very strong sale in the grade.
Yes it is. It sold for a lot for the same reason we talk about. Hard to find. As an accountant, the lack of consistency kinda leaves me thinking a bit and why all the superstar opc cards aren't selling for at least double of the topps. but it looks like things are definitely shifting.
1980,1981,1986 and for many is considered the 1980's player of the decade.
Not comparing them however as they both brought different and multiple Hall-Of-Fame skills to the table.
It's the singer not the song - Peter Townshend (1972)
1980,1981,1986 and for many is considered the 1980's player of the decade.
Not comparing them however as they both brought different and multiple Hall-Of-Fame skills to the table.
It's the singer not the song - Peter Townshend (1972)
that is a solid sale. I am always happy when an important OPC card does well
George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.
I just checked the sold listings of SGC 4 topps ryan rookies. looks like about $650 or so. OPC is selling for worlds more than topps in that grade. like about 5 times more!
George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.
LMK when that reaches the 1973 set
It's the singer not the song - Peter Townshend (1972)
I know a lot of us collect vintage -- 1980 and back (heck maybe 1975 and back), but the insert cards of the 90's are intriguing and certainly some are very valuable/collectable. I kind of look at the OPC issue an insert card sort of, for the day. The gold version if you will.
I know you know a ton about OPC; I’ve personally learned a ton specifically from you.
Maybe you can answer this as I’ve always been curious: were these ever for sale “new” outside of Canada?
Like maybe upstate NY or Vermont or any other lower 48 states where there’s a shared border with Canada?
Curious about the rare, mysterious and beautiful 1951 Wheaties Premium Photos?
https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/987963/1951-wheaties-premium-photos-set-registry#latest
1951 - i have no idea. the first time i bought opc cards was about 15 years ago. the opc guy that opened the 1977 box a few weeks ago probably knows. i know he knows more than i do about opc. he visits canada regularly.
It is funny you mention this. I started buying OPC for my PC back in the 90s. I pretty much did it for the exact reason you mention. I had already accumulated the topps versions of my favorite players and was looking for something more. like the "gold refractor" version of Brett or Schmidt or Ryans rookies.
while I understand most do not value OPC like the few of us on here do, I have for 30 years considered them hidden gems. Really nicely graded versions have that "exclusive" feel to me.
George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.
I collect OPC and consider Venezuela Topps cards another hidden gem
A couple signed 1978 OPC Rose cards. I must have missed something on the front or back. They look nicer than the card grades.
All in the 1980s He may have retired in 1988, but he is THE player of that decade
Yep - Great player. Picked up an sgc 8 1975 opc and got a sgc 7 graded myself the other day.