Type 2 Gold Dollar newp - GTG

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Pedzola
Pedzola Posts: 1,028 ✭✭✭✭✭

Very excited to add this 1854 type 2 gold dollar to my gold type set.

I'll spare the commentary and instead let you all take a shot at guessing the grade, as is tradition!

What do you think?

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  • BillJones
    BillJones Posts: 35,933 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 28, 2022 10:22AM
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    MS-64, unusually sharp strike, especially for an 1854.

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  • willy
    willy Posts: 381 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    MS 64 CAC A very large price jump up to MS65. Nice Coin

  • ms71
    ms71 Posts: 1,686 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    One of the nicest Type II gold dollars I've ever seen, the strike is extraordinary.

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  • alaura22
    alaura22 Posts: 3,963 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I like it and I need one :/
    MS64

  • AUandAG
    AUandAG Posts: 25,050 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    MS63, love the clash, awesome!

    bob :)

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  • pcgscacgold
    pcgscacgold Posts: 3,829 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Very nice. I will say 64+CAC. One that I still need for my type set (the other being the $3).

  • amwldcoin
    amwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    That sucker is hammered for a Type 2!

  • logger7
    logger7 Posts: 9,858 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Very nice and tough coin. Is lack of luster on the cheek normal for uncs?

  • FlyingAl
    FlyingAl Posts: 4,470 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I like it at 64.

  • BryceM
    BryceM Posts: 11,940 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Really nice coin. Looks like a 64 to me.

  • Pedzola
    Pedzola Posts: 1,028 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @logger7 said:
    Very nice and tough coin. Is lack of luster on the cheek normal for uncs?

    I think what you're seeing there is a photography artifact. The slab had some scratches, including a flaw right there over the cheek. I polished it but I think the lighter color you're seeing there is because of the slab.

  • Flatwoods
    Flatwoods Posts: 4,270 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Great looking coin!
    I'm in at 64 too.

  • Coinscratch
    Coinscratch Posts: 11,086 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Too easy - 65

  • Coinscratch
    Coinscratch Posts: 11,086 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Time to resubmit...

  • liefgold
    liefgold Posts: 1,786 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Very nice looking type 2! As others have said, unusually well struck for this date.

    liefgold
  • BryceM
    BryceM Posts: 11,940 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    It looks like a nice coin, and if you submit it a few times it could come back as a 64+, but I'd probably leave it alone. There's something about owning a very nice coin for the assigned grade. The coin is what it is, and a different label won't change it.

  • gumby1234
    gumby1234 Posts: 5,901 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Late to the party but 64 was my guess. Nice die clashes too.

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  • Smudge
    Smudge Posts: 10,001 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Nice color, and very pretty coin.

  • dunkleosteus430
    dunkleosteus430 Posts: 595 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I'm also late but I would've guessed 63+. Nice purchase.

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  • ricko
    ricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    That is a really nice gold coin.... with a major die clash on the reverse. I would have guessed MS65... Cheers, RickO

  • winesteven
    winesteven Posts: 5,604 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 29, 2022 9:39PM
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    My Type 2 is 63+ with CAC, and the difference between coins is clearly night and day! I bought mine as a 63, thought it was real nice, so I sent it in for Reconsideration, and got the plus. Absolutely if that grader saw your coin right before my coin, no way would I have gotten the plus.

    Perhaps consider Reconsideration? They’re having a Quarterly Special for that service - pay for four, get one free, but all must be in the same tier. If you do that, even though the cert number is supposed to stay the same with an upgrade, I suggest you state that request on the submission form. If you get a plus, then for $5 or so, CAC will automatically reapply their sticker, since they ignore plus grades. If by chance you get an upgrade to a 65, keep in mind that CAC would have to then feel your coin is solid as a 65 for them to resticker the coin, even though the cert number remains the same. On the PCGS submission form you have a choice, where if you want, you can choose to only accept upgrades with a plus. You may, or may not want to choose that.

    Regardless, enjoy that beauty!!!!

    Here’s my 63+ with CAC, which as noted, pales in comparison to your 64 (the actual luster on my coin is much stronger than shown in the True View).

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  • Coinscratch
    Coinscratch Posts: 11,086 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @winesteven After your post and further inspection, I don't know man. When enlarging the OP's coin I'm seeing a lot of small hits in the fields along with some wear. And not the luster that yours and comparable grades have. So, I believe the strong strike is what got it to 64 or kept it from 63 and she's a true 64 CAC.

  • Pedzola
    Pedzola Posts: 1,028 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Although it is tough to capture in still images, the luster on my coin is really excellent.

    It captures light in a way that is similar to other gold coins that I have in higher grades. You can get this kind of luster in a nice 64 but usually with a few more hits. Up close, yes it has a couple of marks, but I have seen much worse on other gold in 65.

    But anyway, I am probably not going to submit the coin for upgrade consideration. Why? I'm keeping it! Why risk shipping back and forth to PCGS and CAC?

    If I eventually sell it I would see if I can get at least a plus to maximize return. But for now its a super coin with a spot in my collection!

  • TurtleCat
    TurtleCat Posts: 4,692 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Great looking coin! As a dollar coin semi-aficionado I think it looks superb. :)

  • lkenefic
    lkenefic Posts: 9,518 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Great looking coin... love the die clash!

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  • asheland
    asheland Posts: 24,545 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Splendid coin!

  • pursuitofliberty
    pursuitofliberty Posts: 7,926 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Wonderful coin! My guess was 64+, and she looks deserving of that. Love the clashes and the color and the strike and the surfaces. She's got a lot going for her!


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