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PedzolaPedzola Posts: 1,027 ✭✭✭✭✭

Very excited to add this 1854 type 2 gold dollar to my gold type set.

I'll spare the commentary and instead let you all take a shot at guessing the grade, as is tradition!

What do you think?

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  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,298 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 28, 2022 9:22AM

    MS-64, unusually sharp strike, especially for an 1854.

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  • willywilly Posts: 342 ✭✭✭✭✭

    MS 64 CAC A very large price jump up to MS65. Nice Coin

  • ms71ms71 Posts: 1,546 ✭✭✭✭✭

    One of the nicest Type II gold dollars I've ever seen, the strike is extraordinary.

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  • alaura22alaura22 Posts: 3,334 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I like it and I need one :/
    MS64

  • AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 24,802 ✭✭✭✭✭

    MS63, love the clash, awesome!

    bob :)

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  • pcgscacgoldpcgscacgold Posts: 2,943 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Very nice. I will say 64+CAC. One that I still need for my type set (the other being the $3).

  • amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That sucker is hammered for a Type 2!

  • logger7logger7 Posts: 8,675 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Very nice and tough coin. Is lack of luster on the cheek normal for uncs?

  • FlyingAlFlyingAl Posts: 3,500 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I like it at 64.

    Coin Photographer.

  • BryceMBryceM Posts: 11,823 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Really nice coin. Looks like a 64 to me.

  • PedzolaPedzola Posts: 1,027 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @logger7 said:
    Very nice and tough coin. Is lack of luster on the cheek normal for uncs?

    I think what you're seeing there is a photography artifact. The slab had some scratches, including a flaw right there over the cheek. I polished it but I think the lighter color you're seeing there is because of the slab.

  • FlatwoodsFlatwoods Posts: 4,194 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Great looking coin!
    I'm in at 64 too.

  • CoinscratchCoinscratch Posts: 8,973 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Too easy - 65

  • CoinscratchCoinscratch Posts: 8,973 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Time to resubmit...

  • liefgoldliefgold Posts: 1,690 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Very nice looking type 2! As others have said, unusually well struck for this date.

    liefgold
  • BryceMBryceM Posts: 11,823 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It looks like a nice coin, and if you submit it a few times it could come back as a 64+, but I'd probably leave it alone. There's something about owning a very nice coin for the assigned grade. The coin is what it is, and a different label won't change it.

  • gumby1234gumby1234 Posts: 5,591 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Late to the party but 64 was my guess. Nice die clashes too.

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  • SmudgeSmudge Posts: 9,605 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice color, and very pretty coin.

  • dunkleosteus430dunkleosteus430 Posts: 476 ✭✭✭✭

    I'm also late but I would've guessed 63+. Nice purchase.

    Young Numismatist

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That is a really nice gold coin.... with a major die clash on the reverse. I would have guessed MS65... Cheers, RickO

  • winestevenwinesteven Posts: 4,665 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 29, 2022 8:39PM

    My Type 2 is 63+ with CAC, and the difference between coins is clearly night and day! I bought mine as a 63, thought it was real nice, so I sent it in for Reconsideration, and got the plus. Absolutely if that grader saw your coin right before my coin, no way would I have gotten the plus.

    Perhaps consider Reconsideration? They’re having a Quarterly Special for that service - pay for four, get one free, but all must be in the same tier. If you do that, even though the cert number is supposed to stay the same with an upgrade, I suggest you state that request on the submission form. If you get a plus, then for $5 or so, CAC will automatically reapply their sticker, since they ignore plus grades. If by chance you get an upgrade to a 65, keep in mind that CAC would have to then feel your coin is solid as a 65 for them to resticker the coin, even though the cert number remains the same. On the PCGS submission form you have a choice, where if you want, you can choose to only accept upgrades with a plus. You may, or may not want to choose that.

    Regardless, enjoy that beauty!!!!

    Here’s my 63+ with CAC, which as noted, pales in comparison to your 64 (the actual luster on my coin is much stronger than shown in the True View).

    Steve

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  • CoinscratchCoinscratch Posts: 8,973 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @winesteven After your post and further inspection, I don't know man. When enlarging the OP's coin I'm seeing a lot of small hits in the fields along with some wear. And not the luster that yours and comparable grades have. So, I believe the strong strike is what got it to 64 or kept it from 63 and she's a true 64 CAC.

  • PedzolaPedzola Posts: 1,027 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Although it is tough to capture in still images, the luster on my coin is really excellent.

    It captures light in a way that is similar to other gold coins that I have in higher grades. You can get this kind of luster in a nice 64 but usually with a few more hits. Up close, yes it has a couple of marks, but I have seen much worse on other gold in 65.

    But anyway, I am probably not going to submit the coin for upgrade consideration. Why? I'm keeping it! Why risk shipping back and forth to PCGS and CAC?

    If I eventually sell it I would see if I can get at least a plus to maximize return. But for now its a super coin with a spot in my collection!

  • TurtleCatTurtleCat Posts: 4,623 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Great looking coin! As a dollar coin semi-aficionado I think it looks superb. :)

  • lkeneficlkenefic Posts: 8,169 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Great looking coin... love the die clash!

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  • ashelandasheland Posts: 23,398 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Splendid coin!

  • pursuitoflibertypursuitofliberty Posts: 7,099 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Wonderful coin! My guess was 64+, and she looks deserving of that. Love the clashes and the color and the strike and the surfaces. She's got a lot going for her!


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