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Opinions wanted on this coin, also GTG if you like GRADE REVEALED

alaura22alaura22 Posts: 3,994 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited May 15, 2022 5:41PM in U.S. Coin Forum


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    bsshog40bsshog40 Posts: 4,037 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Don't know much about grading these, but it sure is sweet looking!

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    lermishlermish Posts: 5,072 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Very pretty, nice strike and toning. 64+

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    amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    From what I'm seeing I wouldn't be surprised at 66....tough coin at that level if it is!

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    calgolddivercalgolddiver Posts: 1,809 ✭✭✭✭✭

    very nice ... 65

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    cameonut2011cameonut2011 Posts: 11,044 ✭✭✭✭✭

    How is the luster in hand? The True View makes the luster look muted.

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    MFeldMFeld Posts: 17,263 ✭✭✭✭✭

    My guess is 66, at a minimum.

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    erwindocerwindoc Posts: 5,454 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Should be at least a 65, if not better! Pretty coin.

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    BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks MS63 to me.

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    MrBlusterMrBluster Posts: 380 ✭✭✭

    ms66

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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I would say MS65..... Cheers, RickO

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    lkeneficlkenefic Posts: 9,550 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'd just like to say... Wow! ...and thanks for sharing!

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    cameonut2011cameonut2011 Posts: 11,044 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I’m going to be a contrarian. I agree the surfaces look gem, but the coin looks like it has been dipped a few too many times and retoned. The obverse looks dull. I’ll wager low grade MS netgraded for the luster. I’ll call it a 62 maybe 63 on a good day.

    If it has full cartwheel luster and doesn’t look lifeless in hand. I have no problems with a gem grade.

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    Cougar1978Cougar1978 Posts: 10,067 ✭✭✭✭✭

    64 nice appeal

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    scotty4449scotty4449 Posts: 718 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Interesting toning, I am not sure if I like it of not. I would guess 65,

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    ashelandasheland Posts: 24,548 ✭✭✭✭✭

    MS66 here. Looks nice!

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    CryptoCrypto Posts: 4,101 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Eldorado9Eldorado9 Posts: 2,844 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'll go MS64, looks just ok...Something not quite right with the obverse luster....Hard to determine through the photo. These coins are all about original luster. Perhaps dipped and retoned at some point. hard to say.

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    coinkatcoinkat Posts: 24,562 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I see this thread as an example of the pitfalls in grading a coin from the image. And in making that observation, I am not critical of the photo- the PCGS photography team is terrific. I see a difference in the obverse and reverse surfaces... could be the lighting... but that differences raises the possibility it just may have received an altered surfaces designation with a no grade. I would like to be wrong but I would rather see it in hand before offering an opinion at a lofty grade which the coin may very well deserve- I just feel uncomfortable going there.

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    TreemanTreeman Posts: 426 ✭✭✭

    Hard to to be absolute from a pic, but, judging from strike and surfaces, I would venture to say 67 !

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    CommemDudeCommemDude Posts: 2,445 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Based on the pic, it does appear dipped and retoned , Im guessing 64 if graded recently, 63 before the advent of the tab slab

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    cameonut2011cameonut2011 Posts: 11,044 ✭✭✭✭✭

    What was the grade?

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    crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 14,256 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I like it at a 65. A very attractive coin👌

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    sweetwillietsweetwilliet Posts: 2,316 ✭✭✭

    I’ll go MS66+

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    gumby1234gumby1234 Posts: 5,901 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'll say 64

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    ElcontadorElcontador Posts: 7,743 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @coinkat said:
    I see this thread as an example of the pitfalls in grading a coin from the image. And in making that observation, I am not critical of the photo- the PCGS photography team is terrific. I see a difference in the obverse and reverse surfaces... could be the lighting... but that differences raises the possibility it just may have received an altered surfaces designation with a no grade. I would like to be wrong but I would rather see it in hand before offering an opinion at a lofty grade which the coin may very well deserve- I just feel uncomfortable going there.

    Agree with the above. I need to see the coin re its eye appeal. Unc. Barber Halves are the ugliest group of uncirculated coins I've ever seen. The only very minor flaw I see with this is a tic or lint mark, if you spend a lot of time looking at it you will see it, between the lip and star 9.

    This is a very clean coin. It doesn't have the typical spotchy toilet bowl toning you often find on unc. Barber Halves. Dipped and retoned unc. coins I have seen don't have as subtle toning as this one.

    If you're looking for a nice type coin, and the price is affordable to you, I'd consider this one.

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    cameonut2011cameonut2011 Posts: 11,044 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Elcontador said:
    Unc. Barber Halves are the ugliest group of uncirculated coins I've ever seen…. This is a very clean coin. It doesn't have the typical spotchy toilet bowl toning you often find on unc. Barber Halves.

    I love the imagery. Thank you for reminding me why I never pursued a date and mintmark set of these.

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    MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 40,214 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'll go dipped

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    LanceNewmanOCCLanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭

    63+

    looks like a LOT of contact hidden by overexposed images.

    nice coin it would seem though.

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    amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Time for a reveal?????

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    alaura22alaura22 Posts: 3,994 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @amwldcoin said:
    Time for a reveal?????

    Not yet
    Sunday,

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    amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @alaura22 said:

    @amwldcoin said:
    Time for a reveal?????

    Not yet
    Sunday,

    That's a long ass time for a GTG! I predict it will fall into the dungeon until the reveal!

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    Mr_SpudMr_Spud Posts: 7,299 ✭✭✭✭✭

    My first impression was 63+

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    SmudgeSmudge Posts: 10,009 ✭✭✭✭✭

    66.

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    ChrisH821ChrisH821 Posts: 7,180 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I like it. 64 here due to the knocks on the chin and neck.

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    MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 40,214 ✭✭✭✭✭

    keep guessing

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    MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 40,214 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 14, 2022 5:38PM

    if it straight grades, I'm in at 65

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    Stingray63Stingray63 Posts: 300 ✭✭✭

    65 since I only have a photo to go by.

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    privatecoinprivatecoin Posts: 3,878 ✭✭✭✭✭

    64

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    Project NumismaticsProject Numismatics Posts: 1,889 ✭✭✭✭✭

    64+

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    alaura22alaura22 Posts: 3,994 ✭✭✭✭✭


    Thanks all for playing.............

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    MFeldMFeld Posts: 17,263 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @alaura22 said:

    Thanks all for playing.............

    That image shows noticeable flaws on Liberty’s portrait, which weren’t apparent in the original image.

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    alaura22alaura22 Posts: 3,994 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MFeld said:

    @alaura22 said:

    Thanks all for playing.............

    That image shows noticeable flaws on Liberty’s portrait, which weren’t apparent in the original image.

    Yeah, it's a real dog...................I'll take it!
    :)

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    MFeldMFeld Posts: 17,263 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @alaura22 said:

    @MFeld said:

    @alaura22 said:

    Thanks all for playing.............

    That image shows noticeable flaws on Liberty’s portrait, which weren’t apparent in the original image.

    Yeah, it's a real dog...................I'll take it!
    :)

    Not a dog, by any means. But it looks like a 64, as opposed to a coin that would easily grade higher.

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    amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MFeld said:

    @alaura22 said:

    Thanks all for playing.............

    That image shows noticeable flaws on Liberty’s portrait, which weren’t apparent in the original image.

    I'll pile on with you!

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    cameonut2011cameonut2011 Posts: 11,044 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MFeld said:

    @alaura22 said:

    Thanks all for playing.............

    That image shows noticeable flaws on Liberty’s portrait, which weren’t apparent in the original image.

    I also see some indications of luster not evident in the True View. The obverse in the True View looks stripped.

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    alaura22alaura22 Posts: 3,994 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MFeld said:
    My guess is 66, at a minimum.

    Oh yeah, it was the Trueview picture that didn't show all the problems............
    And CAC just had an extra sticker laying around so they put it on this one

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    jedmjedm Posts: 3,273 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That Trueview reminds me of a former girlfriend's glamor shot she had taken. Not that it didn't resemble her a little bit, but my gosh it really accentuated the positive and a couple dings and scratches didn't show as much (well let's just leave it at that).

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    MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 40,214 ✭✭✭✭✭

    more luster in the slab shots

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