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  • jt88
    jt88 Posts: 3,564 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    My walk through received 2/8 moved to encapsulation now. Taking photo might take some time.

  • Bob13
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    Hmmm... now at week 3 in "Received." Anybody else seeing any movement?

    My current "Box of 20"

  • pruebas
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    I have one that is 3+ months in QA (& total 6 months at PCGS) and another that is 2+ months in Encapsulation.

  • TwoKopeiki
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    Can you guys specify tiers? I'm on business day 15 of an express sub. It's been in grading for about 2 weeks now.

  • Boosibri
    Boosibri Posts: 12,714 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Just sent two walkthroughs in. Arrived today and scanned in. The regrade in grading.

  • ELuis
    ELuis Posts: 1,164 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    In my case was World Express - received 1/52022 - shipped 2/15/2022 [30 business days] and got the coins on 2/17/2022

    For current estimated turnaround times, go to the bottom of this page: https://www.pcgs.com/statistics

  • jt88
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    @pruebas said:
    I have one that is 3+ months in QA (& total 6 months at PCGS) and another that is 2+ months in Encapsulation.

    Wow, why take so long in qa? Take long time in encapsulation maybe be because out of big holder?

  • jt88
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    My walk through received 2/8 moved to QA now.

  • Boosibri
    Boosibri Posts: 12,714 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @jt88 said:
    My walk through received 2/8 moved to QA now.

    That is really slow for a walkthrough even when you take Long Beach into account

  • jt88
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    @Boosibri said:

    @jt88 said:
    My walk through received 2/8 moved to QA now.

    That is really slow for a walkthrough even when you take Long Beach into account

    As of today, it is still in QA but grade is available. I guess true view takes a long time to image. Well, I am pretty sure it should ship next week.

  • Boosibri
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    @jt88 said:

    @Boosibri said:

    @jt88 said:
    My walk through received 2/8 moved to QA now.

    That is really slow for a walkthrough even when you take Long Beach into account

    As of today, it is still in QA but grade is available. I guess true view takes a long time to image. Well, I am pretty sure it should ship next week.

    My two walkthroughs were scanned in Tuesday. One in encapsulation the crossover in QC. None of the QC is “being imaged” which means no crossover which is utter BS and again reinforcement to stop submitting for crossovers, but oh well.

  • jt88
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    @Boosibri said:

    @jt88 said:

    @Boosibri said:

    @jt88 said:
    My walk through received 2/8 moved to QA now.

    That is really slow for a walkthrough even when you take Long Beach into account

    As of today, it is still in QA but grade is available. I guess true view takes a long time to image. Well, I am pretty sure it should ship next week.

    My two walkthroughs were scanned in Tuesday. One in encapsulation the crossover in QC. None of the QC is “being imaged” which means no crossover which is utter BS and again reinforcement to stop submitting for crossovers, but oh well.

    Sorry to hear your coin did not cross. I understand the feeling.

  • amwldcoin
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    I concur from my submissions at FUN. Seems they are trying to drive away business IMHO. Many people at the FUN show were talking about how tough they have been lately. Suspect I'll be taking a prolonged vacation from submitting. :/

    @Boosibri said:

    @jt88 said:

    @Boosibri said:

    @jt88 said:
    My walk through received 2/8 moved to QA now.

    That is really slow for a walkthrough even when you take Long Beach into account

    As of today, it is still in QA but grade is available. I guess true view takes a long time to image. Well, I am pretty sure it should ship next week.

    My two walkthroughs were scanned in Tuesday. One in encapsulation the crossover in QC. None of the QC is “being imaged” which means no crossover which is utter BS and again reinforcement to stop submitting for crossovers, but oh well.

  • 7Jaguars
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    November 20 drop off at Baltimore and coins not yet graded...

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  • jt88
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    I agree that PCGS is very tough. I am not very happy with my walkthrough grade. It is a lot lower than what I expected. Well, as long as they do that to everyone then I am OK with it.

  • atom
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    @7Jaguars said:
    November 20 drop off at Baltimore and coins not yet graded...

    exactly the same by me
    just keep waiting...

  • Bob13
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    4 weeks, today, in "Received". I will note that one of my coins they had listed as a 1/4 Taler from Wurzburg, but that has now been correct to 1/4 Taler from Salzburg (which is correct). So someone looked at my order and made an adjustment.

    But otherwise, hasn't moved on to grading yet.

    My current "Box of 20"

  • lermish
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    Received 2/3, just moved into grading today. Not wonderful but ahead of schedule based on others' experiences!

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  • messydesk
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    @Bob13 said:
    4 weeks, today, in "Received". I will note that one of my coins they had listed as a 1/4 Taler from Wurzburg, but that has now been correct to 1/4 Taler from Salzburg (which is correct). So someone looked at my order and made an adjustment.

    But otherwise, hasn't moved on to grading yet.

    It's when stuff like this happens that I wish they had a "raise red flag" button on coins in a submission being processed that could prevent mechanical errors from getting out. Granted they caught it right away this time, but they don't always.

  • tcollects
    tcollects Posts: 1,139 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Y'all are doing this all wrong - you gotta totally forget about your submission - that's the only way it progresses through the system. Think of PCGS as Santa Claus - they know if you're thinking about your submission or not. If you forget about it, it'll come next week and your grades will be a point higher than you expected. Get your wives to make home baked cookies for the convention staff. If you can't think of anything else, you're gonna end up like that 2021 guy, waiting a year and a half for a box of disappointment. They also keep track how many times you check on the computer. I can't explain all the science but you get dinged each time.

  • jt88
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    @tcollects said:
    Y'all are doing this all wrong - you gotta totally forget about your submission - that's the only way it progresses through the system. Think of PCGS as Santa Claus - they know if you're thinking about your submission or not. If you forget about it, it'll come next week and your grades will be a point higher than you expected. Get your wives to make home baked cookies for the convention staff. If you can't think of anything else, you're gonna end up like that 2021 guy, waiting a year and a half for a box of disappointment. They also keep track how many times you check on the computer. I can't explain all the science but you get dinged each time.

    :s

  • tcollects
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    @jt88 said:

    @tcollects said:
    Y'all are doing this all wrong - you gotta totally forget about your submission - that's the only way it progresses through the system. Think of PCGS as Santa Claus - they know if you're thinking about your submission or not. If you forget about it, it'll come next week and your grades will be a point higher than you expected. Get your wives to make home baked cookies for the convention staff. If you can't think of anything else, you're gonna end up like that 2021 guy, waiting a year and a half for a box of disappointment. They also keep track how many times you check on the computer. I can't explain all the science but you get dinged each time.

    :s

    It'll be alright, let's hug it out like bros

  • Bob13
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    @tcollects said:
    Y'all are doing this all wrong - you gotta totally forget about your submission - that's the only way it progresses through the system. Think of PCGS as Santa Claus - they know if you're thinking about your submission or not. If you forget about it, it'll come next week and your grades will be a point higher than you expected. Get your wives to make home baked cookies for the convention staff. If you can't think of anything else, you're gonna end up like that 2021 guy, waiting a year and a half for a box of disappointment. They also keep track how many times you check on the computer. I can't explain all the science but you get dinged each time.

    I tried, hard to forget about my submission. But, couldn't do it - at 7 weeks today in "Received." I would like at least the illusion of progress...

    My current "Box of 20"

  • bidask
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    I will tell you one thing I notice I have never seen PCGS so strict !

    I tried 4 reconsiderations
    I batted 50%

    One for sure I thought would regrade a full point higher … but Nooooooo😏

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  • jt88
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    @bidask said:
    I will tell you one thing I notice I have never seen PCGS so strict !

    I tried 4 reconsiderations
    I batted 50%

    One for sure I thought would regrade a full point higher … but Nooooooo😏

    Strict is good as long as they can keep it that way for all. People will pay top $ for PCGS that way.

  • Bailathacl
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    Consistency over the years, with minimal up-and-down variation, should of course be the goal for any TPG. An abrupt change of standards is problematic to me. Curious how recent “crack outs” have done when resubmitted.

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  • 7Jaguars
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    IMO, that is quite true. PCGS and 'cross the street are pretty good at Morgans, Lincolns, etc. but of necessity not quite as proficient on esoteric types or patterns or on some foreign. I think it important for all to keep an open mind with regards to them and them with regards to us.....

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  • golden
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    My 20-coin World submission is now at 68 business days.

  • jt88
    jt88 Posts: 3,564 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    my 1/15 US one coin order now is in encapsulation. the rest are still in grading or received.

  • coinkat
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    Rut Roh...

    I better move to the situation recliner and prepare for the worst. LOL

    Patience is a virtue (paraphrasing Calvin Coolidge) or perhaps we have moved into unchartered territory...

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  • golden
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    Grades are up after 70 business days.

  • jt88
    jt88 Posts: 3,564 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @golden said:
    Grades are up after 70 business days.

    that's about three and half months so when you get your coins and TV it will be four and half months. indeed it is very slow.

  • jt88
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    I have one world regular is still in received after 50 days.

  • EASilver
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    One World Economy order with 11 coins moved up to encapsulation at about 80 business days.

  • ELuis
    ELuis Posts: 1,164 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    80 days, wow, and for curiosity purposes, what type of service? Express or?

    I have some 30+ raw coins that I been thinking to be sent for grading, but I will wait.

    For my new buys, I just end up more focus on buyng already graded coins instead.

    My last submission (Express service), took 30 days (not bad) submitted in January of this year.

  • Bob13
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    @golden said:
    Grades are up after 70 business days.

    How long did it take in each stage? My coins are at received for two months. Wondering if they will sit weeks at each stage or once grading is scheduled things will move more quickly.

    My current "Box of 20"

  • golden
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    Not sure how long it took in each stage.

  • jt88
    jt88 Posts: 3,564 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    It really depends on your coin. I have two orders are still in received; one received on 1/15 but it is restoration so it is expected to be long; another received on 2/9.

  • Boosibri
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    Express shipment scanned in 3/9 and still in grading

  • Bob13
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    OK - an update. My coins moved from "Received" to "Grading" today. Took 2 months.... but I will take the progress (and I will start a thread on my submission)!

    My current "Box of 20"

  • coinkat
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    My grades were posted today- 20 coins economy- received and registered on 11-30. In all fairness, there were a few coins that for me were out of the ordinary. I will post results once I have pictures. Results were good with one that did not meet expectations... There were various themes associated with this submission that should help with the write up

    I have another submission that may prove to be somewhat entertaining

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  • neildrobertson
    neildrobertson Posts: 1,268 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    This is slow going. Is PCGS speaking out at all about the delays?

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  • EASilver
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    @EASilver said:
    One World Economy order with 11 coins moved up to encapsulation at about 80 business days.

    Received online grades yesterday at 82 days.

  • Clio
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    Express World Crossover. Received 2/4/22 Grades posted today. 43 Business days.

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  • coinkat
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    Coins arrived today... I have often been told results that are posted are better with images... so once we have images I plan to share the results. Images are worth more than what I am capable of writing.

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  • jt88
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    Looks like world coin grading time will takes even longer now.

  • jt88
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    Looks like getting back some of my orders in Christmas might become a reality now, not just a joking. Lol

  • Boosibri
    Boosibri Posts: 12,714 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Grade back on a world express order… 3/9-4/21

  • ShadyDave
    ShadyDave Posts: 2,218 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Received my world regular submission grades on business day 61 (1/21/22 -4/15/22). TruViews posted the same day.

    Received my world regular crossover submission grades back yesterday, 65 business days (1/21/22- 4/21/22). Went 8-8 for crossovers with 3 1-point upgrades and no downgrades. Still no TruViews.

    Have a world econ submission sitting in grading at business day 66 with no end in sight.

  • messydesk
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    World regular submission marked received on 4/13, which includes the last two to make my WCIEA completion "official." I'm thinking grades probably won't pop until after the 6/30/22 deadline for this year's registry awards, though.