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“The way I see it, if you want the rainbow, you gotta put up with the rain.”
“Find out who you are and do it on purpose.”
“Don’t get so busy making a living that you forget to make a life.”
“We cannot direct the wind, but we can adjust the sails.”
“Dream more, learn more, care more, and be more.”
Parton’s quotes often blend humor, humility, and practical wisdom, reflecting her life journey from rural Tennessee to global stardom. They remind us to embrace challenges, nurture relationships, and live with purpose and joy.
Dolly Parton (1946-2026)
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This is Die#4
A larger pic of the area would help. Your pic looks farther right.
Pete
The VDB is not clear enough to verify it wasn’t added
the reverse N is notched lower
Compare the position of the 'S' relative to the date. My piece has the lowest, farthest right 'S' of all obverse dies used for 1909-S cents. Bert Harsche in "Detecting Altered Coins" Fifth edition identifies this die for 1909-S cents as #6, far low, far right (FLFR). Also, the 'S' on my SVDB tilts to the right much more than the 'S' seen on PCGS die #4
Re: PCGS die #4 for 1909-S V.D.B.
The 'S' is not as low nor is it as far right as the 'S' on my SVDB or my 1909-S without V.D.B., for that matter.
“The way I see it, if you want the rainbow, you gotta put up with the rain.”
“Find out who you are and do it on purpose.”
“Don’t get so busy making a living that you forget to make a life.”
“We cannot direct the wind, but we can adjust the sails.”
“Dream more, learn more, care more, and be more.”
Parton’s quotes often blend humor, humility, and practical wisdom, reflecting her life journey from rural Tennessee to global stardom. They remind us to embrace challenges, nurture relationships, and live with purpose and joy.
Dolly Parton (1946-2026)
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“The way I see it, if you want the rainbow, you gotta put up with the rain.”
“Find out who you are and do it on purpose.”
“Don’t get so busy making a living that you forget to make a life.”
“We cannot direct the wind, but we can adjust the sails.”
“Dream more, learn more, care more, and be more.”
Parton’s quotes often blend humor, humility, and practical wisdom, reflecting her life journey from rural Tennessee to global stardom. They remind us to embrace challenges, nurture relationships, and live with purpose and joy.
Dolly Parton (1946-2026)
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“The way I see it, if you want the rainbow, you gotta put up with the rain.”
“Find out who you are and do it on purpose.”
“Don’t get so busy making a living that you forget to make a life.”
“We cannot direct the wind, but we can adjust the sails.”
“Dream more, learn more, care more, and be more.”
Parton’s quotes often blend humor, humility, and practical wisdom, reflecting her life journey from rural Tennessee to global stardom. They remind us to embrace challenges, nurture relationships, and live with purpose and joy.
Dolly Parton (1946-2026)
If a Die#5 exists, where did they all go?
I'm not the authority to make any call on this.
Pete
by added it could also mean embossed
the color has been left off the label
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“The way I see it, if you want the rainbow, you gotta put up with the rain.”
“Find out who you are and do it on purpose.”
“Don’t get so busy making a living that you forget to make a life.”
“We cannot direct the wind, but we can adjust the sails.”
“Dream more, learn more, care more, and be more.”
Parton’s quotes often blend humor, humility, and practical wisdom, reflecting her life journey from rural Tennessee to global stardom. They remind us to embrace challenges, nurture relationships, and live with purpose and joy.
Dolly Parton (1946-2026)
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“The way I see it, if you want the rainbow, you gotta put up with the rain.”
“Find out who you are and do it on purpose.”
“Don’t get so busy making a living that you forget to make a life.”
“We cannot direct the wind, but we can adjust the sails.”
“Dream more, learn more, care more, and be more.”
Parton’s quotes often blend humor, humility, and practical wisdom, reflecting her life journey from rural Tennessee to global stardom. They remind us to embrace challenges, nurture relationships, and live with purpose and joy.
Dolly Parton (1946-2026)
It should read F15BN instead of F15
Embossing involves opening a hole on the rim and use tools to push metal vertically to add an element. The hole is sealed afterwards.
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“The way I see it, if you want the rainbow, you gotta put up with the rain.”
“Find out who you are and do it on purpose.”
“Don’t get so busy making a living that you forget to make a life.”
“We cannot direct the wind, but we can adjust the sails.”
“Dream more, learn more, care more, and be more.”
Parton’s quotes often blend humor, humility, and practical wisdom, reflecting her life journey from rural Tennessee to global stardom. They remind us to embrace challenges, nurture relationships, and live with purpose and joy.
Dolly Parton (1946-2026)
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“The way I see it, if you want the rainbow, you gotta put up with the rain.”
“Find out who you are and do it on purpose.”
“Don’t get so busy making a living that you forget to make a life.”
“We cannot direct the wind, but we can adjust the sails.”
“Dream more, learn more, care more, and be more.”
Parton’s quotes often blend humor, humility, and practical wisdom, reflecting her life journey from rural Tennessee to global stardom. They remind us to embrace challenges, nurture relationships, and live with purpose and joy.
Dolly Parton (1946-2026)
I have forwarded the images to my contact at PCGS for his opinion; stay tuned...
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“The way I see it, if you want the rainbow, you gotta put up with the rain.”
“Find out who you are and do it on purpose.”
“Don’t get so busy making a living that you forget to make a life.”
“We cannot direct the wind, but we can adjust the sails.”
“Dream more, learn more, care more, and be more.”
Parton’s quotes often blend humor, humility, and practical wisdom, reflecting her life journey from rural Tennessee to global stardom. They remind us to embrace challenges, nurture relationships, and live with purpose and joy.
Dolly Parton (1946-2026)
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“The way I see it, if you want the rainbow, you gotta put up with the rain.”
“Find out who you are and do it on purpose.”
“Don’t get so busy making a living that you forget to make a life.”
“We cannot direct the wind, but we can adjust the sails.”
“Dream more, learn more, care more, and be more.”
Parton’s quotes often blend humor, humility, and practical wisdom, reflecting her life journey from rural Tennessee to global stardom. They remind us to embrace challenges, nurture relationships, and live with purpose and joy.
Dolly Parton (1946-2026)
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“The way I see it, if you want the rainbow, you gotta put up with the rain.”
“Find out who you are and do it on purpose.”
“Don’t get so busy making a living that you forget to make a life.”
“We cannot direct the wind, but we can adjust the sails.”
“Dream more, learn more, care more, and be more.”
Parton’s quotes often blend humor, humility, and practical wisdom, reflecting her life journey from rural Tennessee to global stardom. They remind us to embrace challenges, nurture relationships, and live with purpose and joy.
Dolly Parton (1946-2026)
Here is closeup image of my 1909-S V.D.B., date and mintmark area:
“The way I see it, if you want the rainbow, you gotta put up with the rain.”
“Find out who you are and do it on purpose.”
“Don’t get so busy making a living that you forget to make a life.”
“We cannot direct the wind, but we can adjust the sails.”
“Dream more, learn more, care more, and be more.”
Parton’s quotes often blend humor, humility, and practical wisdom, reflecting her life journey from rural Tennessee to global stardom. They remind us to embrace challenges, nurture relationships, and live with purpose and joy.
Dolly Parton (1946-2026)
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“The way I see it, if you want the rainbow, you gotta put up with the rain.”
“Find out who you are and do it on purpose.”
“Don’t get so busy making a living that you forget to make a life.”
“We cannot direct the wind, but we can adjust the sails.”
“Dream more, learn more, care more, and be more.”
Parton’s quotes often blend humor, humility, and practical wisdom, reflecting her life journey from rural Tennessee to global stardom. They remind us to embrace challenges, nurture relationships, and live with purpose and joy.
Dolly Parton (1946-2026)
How about a closeup of the V.D.B.?
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“The way I see it, if you want the rainbow, you gotta put up with the rain.”
“Find out who you are and do it on purpose.”
“Don’t get so busy making a living that you forget to make a life.”
“We cannot direct the wind, but we can adjust the sails.”
“Dream more, learn more, care more, and be more.”
Parton’s quotes often blend humor, humility, and practical wisdom, reflecting her life journey from rural Tennessee to global stardom. They remind us to embrace challenges, nurture relationships, and live with purpose and joy.
Dolly Parton (1946-2026)
It wouldn't confuse me. Post the pic. It makes it seem like you are hiding something otherwise.
Best we could do with the images provided @Picker1954 :
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“The way I see it, if you want the rainbow, you gotta put up with the rain.”
“Find out who you are and do it on purpose.”
“Don’t get so busy making a living that you forget to make a life.”
“We cannot direct the wind, but we can adjust the sails.”
“Dream more, learn more, care more, and be more.”
Parton’s quotes often blend humor, humility, and practical wisdom, reflecting her life journey from rural Tennessee to global stardom. They remind us to embrace challenges, nurture relationships, and live with purpose and joy.
Dolly Parton (1946-2026)
This is from a coin that I owned at one time. I can't tell if the V.D.B. is the same.
I found more pics.
This where I found it.
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“The way I see it, if you want the rainbow, you gotta put up with the rain.”
“Find out who you are and do it on purpose.”
“Don’t get so busy making a living that you forget to make a life.”
“We cannot direct the wind, but we can adjust the sails.”
“Dream more, learn more, care more, and be more.”
Parton’s quotes often blend humor, humility, and practical wisdom, reflecting her life journey from rural Tennessee to global stardom. They remind us to embrace challenges, nurture relationships, and live with purpose and joy.
Dolly Parton (1946-2026)
That's not a shallow N. This is:
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“The way I see it, if you want the rainbow, you gotta put up with the rain.”
“Find out who you are and do it on purpose.”
“Don’t get so busy making a living that you forget to make a life.”
“We cannot direct the wind, but we can adjust the sails.”
“Dream more, learn more, care more, and be more.”
Parton’s quotes often blend humor, humility, and practical wisdom, reflecting her life journey from rural Tennessee to global stardom. They remind us to embrace challenges, nurture relationships, and live with purpose and joy.
Dolly Parton (1946-2026)
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“The way I see it, if you want the rainbow, you gotta put up with the rain.”
“Find out who you are and do it on purpose.”
“Don’t get so busy making a living that you forget to make a life.”
“We cannot direct the wind, but we can adjust the sails.”
“Dream more, learn more, care more, and be more.”
Parton’s quotes often blend humor, humility, and practical wisdom, reflecting her life journey from rural Tennessee to global stardom. They remind us to embrace challenges, nurture relationships, and live with purpose and joy.
Dolly Parton (1946-2026)
Blurry photo of V.D.B. or not, it does not appear to me to be a genuine 1909 S "VDB". The tops of the dots shouldn't be inline. If wrong, I'll be glad to see better photos that prove the point. A quality photo would solve the issue. Cannot tell from photo's whether center of B is tilted NE or if the "N" is a Shallow N or not. I feel not, but then not positive of those two.
Jim
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“The way I see it, if you want the rainbow, you gotta put up with the rain.”
“Find out who you are and do it on purpose.”
“Don’t get so busy making a living that you forget to make a life.”
“We cannot direct the wind, but we can adjust the sails.”
“Dream more, learn more, care more, and be more.”
Parton’s quotes often blend humor, humility, and practical wisdom, reflecting her life journey from rural Tennessee to global stardom. They remind us to embrace challenges, nurture relationships, and live with purpose and joy.
Dolly Parton (1946-2026)
I am curious if anyone thinks mr1874 has any compelling evidence for his previous claims about the source/ authenticity of this particular example. I can't see any of his comments on "ignore" but can only imagine...
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“The way I see it, if you want the rainbow, you gotta put up with the rain.”
“Find out who you are and do it on purpose.”
“Don’t get so busy making a living that you forget to make a life.”
“We cannot direct the wind, but we can adjust the sails.”
“Dream more, learn more, care more, and be more.”
Parton’s quotes often blend humor, humility, and practical wisdom, reflecting her life journey from rural Tennessee to global stardom. They remind us to embrace challenges, nurture relationships, and live with purpose and joy.
Dolly Parton (1946-2026)
The "D" on your coin is wrong. Period.
Keep on hemming and hawing about things that remain murky. Don't provide better pics. Keep explaining things away.
I'm done with this.
Bye.................................................
Pete
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“The way I see it, if you want the rainbow, you gotta put up with the rain.”
“Find out who you are and do it on purpose.”
“Don’t get so busy making a living that you forget to make a life.”
“We cannot direct the wind, but we can adjust the sails.”
“Dream more, learn more, care more, and be more.”
Parton’s quotes often blend humor, humility, and practical wisdom, reflecting her life journey from rural Tennessee to global stardom. They remind us to embrace challenges, nurture relationships, and live with purpose and joy.
Dolly Parton (1946-2026)
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“The way I see it, if you want the rainbow, you gotta put up with the rain.”
“Find out who you are and do it on purpose.”
“Don’t get so busy making a living that you forget to make a life.”
“We cannot direct the wind, but we can adjust the sails.”
“Dream more, learn more, care more, and be more.”
Parton’s quotes often blend humor, humility, and practical wisdom, reflecting her life journey from rural Tennessee to global stardom. They remind us to embrace challenges, nurture relationships, and live with purpose and joy.
Dolly Parton (1946-2026)
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“The way I see it, if you want the rainbow, you gotta put up with the rain.”
“Find out who you are and do it on purpose.”
“Don’t get so busy making a living that you forget to make a life.”
“We cannot direct the wind, but we can adjust the sails.”
“Dream more, learn more, care more, and be more.”
Parton’s quotes often blend humor, humility, and practical wisdom, reflecting her life journey from rural Tennessee to global stardom. They remind us to embrace challenges, nurture relationships, and live with purpose and joy.
Dolly Parton (1946-2026)
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“The way I see it, if you want the rainbow, you gotta put up with the rain.”
“Find out who you are and do it on purpose.”
“Don’t get so busy making a living that you forget to make a life.”
“We cannot direct the wind, but we can adjust the sails.”
“Dream more, learn more, care more, and be more.”
Parton’s quotes often blend humor, humility, and practical wisdom, reflecting her life journey from rural Tennessee to global stardom. They remind us to embrace challenges, nurture relationships, and live with purpose and joy.
Dolly Parton (1946-2026)
What is holding you back from sending it back to PCGS to validate the coin? If they again say it's genuine, you have the only one graded.
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“The way I see it, if you want the rainbow, you gotta put up with the rain.”
“Find out who you are and do it on purpose.”
“Don’t get so busy making a living that you forget to make a life.”
“We cannot direct the wind, but we can adjust the sails.”
“Dream more, learn more, care more, and be more.”
Parton’s quotes often blend humor, humility, and practical wisdom, reflecting her life journey from rural Tennessee to global stardom. They remind us to embrace challenges, nurture relationships, and live with purpose and joy.
Dolly Parton (1946-2026)
I would definitely ask them to state something on the label, like Hersche #5 or whispering VDB to diferentiate this unique piece.
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“The way I see it, if you want the rainbow, you gotta put up with the rain.”
“Find out who you are and do it on purpose.”
“Don’t get so busy making a living that you forget to make a life.”
“We cannot direct the wind, but we can adjust the sails.”
“Dream more, learn more, care more, and be more.”
Parton’s quotes often blend humor, humility, and practical wisdom, reflecting her life journey from rural Tennessee to global stardom. They remind us to embrace challenges, nurture relationships, and live with purpose and joy.
Dolly Parton (1946-2026)
I don't believe so.
The TPG could have made a mistake. Labeling errors are posted here regularly, and due to the volume of coins graded, it wouldn't be out of the question.
IMO, you need to have this labeled on the slab as a new obverse or you'll continue to see serious doubts in the numismatic community. Another option is to write an article for a numismatic periodical such as the Numismatist or Coin Week. That would initiate serious discussion. Short of that, I haven't seen anything other than a lot of supposition. You still haven't shown the edges (or at least commented that you examined them in detail) by the mm or vdb, to rule out embossing.
https://www.pcgs.com/news/watch-out-for-embossed-mintmarks
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“The way I see it, if you want the rainbow, you gotta put up with the rain.”
“Find out who you are and do it on purpose.”
“Don’t get so busy making a living that you forget to make a life.”
“We cannot direct the wind, but we can adjust the sails.”
“Dream more, learn more, care more, and be more.”
Parton’s quotes often blend humor, humility, and practical wisdom, reflecting her life journey from rural Tennessee to global stardom. They remind us to embrace challenges, nurture relationships, and live with purpose and joy.
Dolly Parton (1946-2026)
You're making an extraordinary claim. And extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. Until you have additional evaluation from a TPG, publish an article, or have a bona fide Lincoln cent expert support your claim, I'm afraid it will be an uphill battle.
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“The way I see it, if you want the rainbow, you gotta put up with the rain.”
“Find out who you are and do it on purpose.”
“Don’t get so busy making a living that you forget to make a life.”
“We cannot direct the wind, but we can adjust the sails.”
“Dream more, learn more, care more, and be more.”
Parton’s quotes often blend humor, humility, and practical wisdom, reflecting her life journey from rural Tennessee to global stardom. They remind us to embrace challenges, nurture relationships, and live with purpose and joy.
Dolly Parton (1946-2026)
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“The way I see it, if you want the rainbow, you gotta put up with the rain.”
“Find out who you are and do it on purpose.”
“Don’t get so busy making a living that you forget to make a life.”
“We cannot direct the wind, but we can adjust the sails.”
“Dream more, learn more, care more, and be more.”
Parton’s quotes often blend humor, humility, and practical wisdom, reflecting her life journey from rural Tennessee to global stardom. They remind us to embrace challenges, nurture relationships, and live with purpose and joy.
Dolly Parton (1946-2026)