Small Dollars Thread - Post your small dollars!

Zoins · August 13, 2017 12:27PM

Here's a thread to celebrate all small dollars: gold or golden, coins, patterns or so-called dollars.

Here's a Sac to get this rolling. I love the way this proof looks in hand. It's very hard to capture in a photo. The TV captures the colors but not the mirrors.

liefgold · August 13, 2017 12:36PM

Here are a couple:

BillJones · August 13, 2017 12:40PM

Here are a couple "sleeper" Philadelphia Mint Type I gold dollars. Most people think tha the open and close wreath gold dollars are of equal rarity given the way they are listed in the "Red Book." They aren't. The close wreath is a lot tougher, and the "Coin Facts" survival estimates support that. "Coin Facts says there are 2.500 open wreath pieces and 500 close wreath coins. For those who are not familar, here are the two varieties.

Open Wreath with the "L" on the bust.

Close Wreath. This piece has satin as opposed to brilliant surfaces, but it has few marks.

The 1850-P gold dollar is another "sleeper." It is harder to find than the other Philadelphia Mint Type I gold dollars.

Twobitcollector · August 13, 2017 12:47PM

1856 Slanted "5"

Twobitcollector · August 13, 2017 12:48PM

1856 Slanted "5"

Zoins · August 13, 2017 12:49PM

Very cool gold dollars @liefgold and @BillJones!

Bill, great info and pics on the the open and closed wreaths. I didn't know about these but just looked them up and read this info. The HA article mentions the mintages in Philadelphia were roughly equal but the information from CoinFacts indicates 4x the survivors for the open wreath. Very interesting info and I'm now curious why the number of survivors is so low.

Heritage: https://coins.ha.com/heritage-auctions-newsletter/1849-c-open-wreath-gold-dollar-at-ana.s?id=1614

Mint Engraver James Barton Longacre designed the new gold dollar in early 1849. The initial design had the reverse wreath top ends well apart from the large 1 in the denomination, and these became known as the "Open Wreath" variety. As the Philadelphia Mint was in charge of producing dies, each of the branch mints were sent Open Wreath dies to begin coinage. Therefore, Open Wreath reverse dies were used in Philadelphia and sent to Charlotte, Dahlonega, and New Orleans. It is known that the master hubs were first prepared using the Open Wreath reverse, as well as proofs and the initial coins struck on May 8, 1849. For some still unknown reason, Longacre then changed the master hubs by adding a cluster of leaves and a pair of berries to the end of the existing branches, thus creating the "Closed Wreath" reverse from dies made with this altered hub. Again, the facts behind this are currently lost to history unless future research discovers some evidence. But what we do know is that the Philadelphia Mint and the Charlotte Mint both produced Closed Wreath gold dollars in 1849 too. Apparently new Closed Wreath dies were shipped to the Charlotte Mint but not to the New Orleans or the Dahlonega Mints. Either that or the new Closed Wreath dies were not used for coinage by these other two mints in 1849. The Charlotte Mint apparently received the new Closed Wreath dies for gold dollars and used the new dies for virtually their entire production of 11,634 gold dollars that year. The Philadelphia Mint produced Open Wreath and Closed Wreath gold dollars in roughly equal numbers.

Numiven · August 13, 2017 1:03PM

Numiven · August 13, 2017 1:10PM

Another run of the mill stuff:

BillJones · August 13, 2017 1:45PM

Very interesting info and I'm now curious why the number of survivors is so low.

People tend to save the first coins issued. That's why the 1849, open wreath, no L is more common than it might look like it should be. The 1849 Close wreath coins were the last gold dollars to be struck that year. By then most people had already set some aside and were not that interested in the new ones. Perhaps they didn't even know that the design had been modified.

liefgold · August 13, 2017 2:35PM

Here is the rarest variety in the gold dollar series. 1862 Double Die Obverse. Less than 20 certified between the grading services.

Numiven · August 13, 2017 3:12PM

My run of the mill Type 2, AU58 CAC

ECHOES · August 13, 2017 3:16PM

Love my SBA's
My mom gave me this one~

Wide Rim~

Dealer 'Junk' box~

Cameonut · August 13, 2017 3:27PM

Something a bit offbeat.....

coinsarefun · August 13, 2017 5:24PM

REALGATOR · August 13, 2017 5:29PM

Crypto · August 13, 2017 6:08PM

Scarce O mint date

DoughDeo · August 13, 2017 6:33PM

The 1873 is graded PL. I think the 1862 has a shot at PL.

ricko · August 14, 2017 6:05AM

A nice small dollar thread... and not cluttered with prezzie bucks.... Cheers, RickO

CascadeChris · August 14, 2017 7:01AM

A friend and I were recently going through some boxes of stuff he bought a while ago and he had no idea this was in there. Had no clue of the value either until I told him. Darn ethics!

Crypto · August 14, 2017 2:54PM

How many more are out there just like that, thousands most likely

CascadeChris · August 14, 2017 3:16PM

@Crypto said:
How many more are out there just like that, thousands most likely

The question is how many are out there wild, loose in "circulation." Many kids broke them out and spent them on candy, ice cream etc.

Zoins · December 29, 2021 6:25PM

Chris @ErrorsOnCoins!

I just found the slab photo for your Struck-Thru Twine Sacagawea!

It was in the following thread, but I'm posting it here since this one is much easier to find!

Discussion: https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/1005659/thoughts-on-sac-dollar-collecting/p1

moursund · December 29, 2021 6:38PM

These pretty much all look the same.. but here is mine 🙂

csdot · December 29, 2021 8:22PM

@coinsarefun said:

Might be the best looking coin on this thread. What's the origin/back story?

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I looked it up and found this:

2000 Token X-582 Brass Gallery Mint Mus. Concept (Regular Strike)

https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/1023246/update-ron-landis-gallery-mint-museum-and-the-one-concept-dollars-grades-tv

Flatwoods · December 30, 2021 8:16AM

Pocket piece.
I dont know why, its what I do.

coinsarefun · December 30, 2021 8:31AM

Overstruck on a Sac.

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coinsarefun · December 30, 2021 8:35AM

This is the original picture that Ron sent me of all the first trial coins

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Mr_Spud · December 30, 2021 9:58AM

relicsncoins · December 30, 2021 10:02AM

LJenkins11 · December 30, 2021 10:47AM

Cool thread.

1630Boston · December 30, 2021 10:59AM

Swampboy · December 30, 2021 11:49AM

picked up this AU gold dollar at a NW coin show from @SeattleSlammer
scratches on holder

Zoins · December 30, 2021 1:12PM

@Flatwoods said:
Pocket piece.
I dont know why, its what I do.

It looks like it's holding it's wear pretty well

Zoins · December 30, 2021 1:55PM

@relicsncoins said:

Always nice to see coins from Christopher (Christian) Bechtler, Sr.!

crazyhounddog · December 30, 2021 2:26PM

Smudge · December 30, 2021 2:28PM

Here’s a couple.

Weiss · December 30, 2021 4:08PM

kiyote · December 30, 2021 4:29PM

I love the recent innovation dollar for the telephone! It’s so good that the UK basically copied it this year.

PerryHall · December 30, 2021 4:40PM

@Weiss That gold dollar has the color that I like to see on old gold.

Mr_Spud · December 30, 2021 4:55PM

@kiyote said:
I love the recent innovation dollar for the telephone! It’s so good that the UK basically copied it this year.

I like that one 🌞

bramn8r · December 30, 2021 6:01PM

kiyote · December 30, 2021 6:24PM

I am liking the classic SBA more and more in my old age. Maybe it’s dementia!

Pioneer1 · January 1, 2022 9:14PM

By small gold dollars, i'm assuming you mean the 12-15 mm range of US gold $1 dollars. I ask since there are all sorts of gold SCDs I could post in the 12-15 mm range including Harts Coins of the Golden West ... just as there are small gold $2.5 18-20mm range I could post too. If you look at 1 pinch (0.470 inch = 12 mm) pieces, here is one.

coinsarefun · January 1, 2022 10:28PM

SUPER!!

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@Pioneer1 said:
By small gold dollars, i'm assuming you mean the 12-15 mm range of US gold $1 dollars. I ask since there are all sorts of gold SCDs I could post in the 12-15 mm range including Harts Coins of the Golden West ... just as there are small gold $2.5 18-20mm range I could post too. If you look at 1 pinch (0.470 inch = 12 mm) pieces, here is one.

coinsarefun · January 1, 2022 10:31PM

This belonged to Joe Rust. His daughter sold it
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ZoidMeister · January 2, 2022 7:02AM

A couple of Sac's damaged by Ron Landis.

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ZoidMeister · January 2, 2022 7:04AM

And a 1995 Copper Concept by the same.

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ZoidMeister · January 2, 2022 7:06AM

Rounding out my Landis collection. I just need to find a 1998.

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ZoidMeister · January 2, 2022 7:11AM

One more. A Jared Grove / Frank Gasparro commemorative.

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Pioneer1 · January 2, 2022 12:03PM

coinsarefun · January 2, 2022 7:40PM

@ZoidMeister said:
One more. A Jared Grove / Frank Gasparro commemorative.

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I tried getting this one but got out bid.

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