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Any signs of problems on this common Morgan?

moursundmoursund Posts: 3,207 ✭✭✭✭✭
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This is an inexpensive coin, but pretend that it wasn't... :smile:
Looks nice to me... do you experts see any signs of cleaning, bogosity, or other problems?
Thanks!

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    gumby1234gumby1234 Posts: 5,425 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks like a whizzed coin from those pics.

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    hummingbird_coinshummingbird_coins Posts: 415 ✭✭✭

    Either xf/light clean or au original. Either way, it still has good luster.

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    moursundmoursund Posts: 3,207 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @gumby1234 and @MFeld , is the suspicion of cleaning/whizzing just from general experience, or do you see specific tell-tale hairlines, washed-outness, or some such?

    Thanks!
    am

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    gumby1234gumby1234 Posts: 5,425 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @moursund The halo effect around many of the details. The absence of bag marks especially on the cheek. The wear pattern is quirky also.

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    HalfDimeDudeHalfDimeDude Posts: 1,205 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I see a problem coin, cleaned or messed with, yeah some luster but its not across the entire surface. And as mentioned the halo effect. Pass

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    cameonut2011cameonut2011 Posts: 10,061 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I’m more inclined to agree with the whizzed crowd, but a harsh cleaning is also possible. I’d split the baby and just call it altered surfaces.

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    lkeneficlkenefic Posts: 7,821 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Something is definitely going on with the surfaces... my first thought was cleaned

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    moursundmoursund Posts: 3,207 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 13, 2021 4:23PM

    Thanks, all!

    So, these halos suggest dubious treatment?

    I'll give this one (and any similar) the go-by!

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    MFeldMFeld Posts: 12,035 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @moursund said:
    Thanks, all!

    So, these halos suggest dubious treatment?

    I'll give this one (and any similar) the go-by!

    No, the halos don’t necessarily indicate that something was done to the coin. But the sheen doesn’t look natural.

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

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    MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 32,200 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Too blurry to make out any light hairlines

    Are you taking pictures of this?

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    koynekwestkoynekwest Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks to me like it's been cleaned, too.

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    jdimmickjdimmick Posts: 9,591 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I agree cleaned

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    moursundmoursund Posts: 3,207 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MsMorrisine said:
    Too blurry to make out any light hairlines

    Are you taking pictures of this?

    No, these are eBay pictures

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    anablepanablep Posts: 5,029 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Personally, I'd steer clear of an un-slabbed coin from eBay, especially if the pictures are poor quality.

    Always looking for attractive rim toned Morgan and Peace dollars in PCGS or (older) ANA/ANACS holders!

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    moursundmoursund Posts: 3,207 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @anablep said:
    Personally, I'd steer clear of an un-slabbed coin from eBay, especially if the pictures are poor quality.

    I'll check with the local dealers again, but there are still a few holes for common Morgan's in my album, and I may buy some circulated few from ebay. These tend to be 40 to $50 coins, not likely slabbed, and the 'honestly worn and grey, coins, with good pictures, do look like the best bet.

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    gumby1234gumby1234 Posts: 5,425 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @moursund there are also many reputable dealers online. I would rather check them than buy on eBay

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    BillJonesBillJones Posts: 33,481 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The coin lacks mint luster, which easy enough to capture in a photograph. What you lose is some of the design details because of the overexposed and duller areas. This is not a nice coin.

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    dcarrdcarr Posts: 7,997 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The left half of the obverse, including the cheek area, look extensively "wiped".

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    jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 31,877 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @gumby1234 said:
    @moursund there are also many reputable dealers online. I would rather check them than buy on eBay

    There are also numerous reputable dealers in ebay, including many forum members.

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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I would pass on that coin.... cleaned, unattractive finish with total lack of luster. Cheers, RickO

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    WAYNEASWAYNEAS Posts: 6,345 ✭✭✭✭✭

    See if you can fill some of those album holes by using Buy, Sell, & Trade - U.S. Coins forum.
    There are many reputable dealers here.
    Good luck.
    Wayne

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    Eldorado9Eldorado9 Posts: 2,108 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Impaired luster/cleaned for sure.

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    moursundmoursund Posts: 3,207 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @WAYNEAS said:
    See if you can fill some of those album holes by using Buy, Sell, & Trade - U.S. Coins forum.
    There are many reputable dealers here.
    Good luck.
    Wayne

    good idea

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    AMRCAMRC Posts: 4,266 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That coin is processed beyond acceptable levels.

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