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How long will the hype last in the Peace dollar series?

erwindocerwindoc Posts: 5,193 ✭✭✭✭✭

Lots of new Peace and Morgan dollar collectors out there thanks to the 100 year hype. Just how long will it take to cool off? I put my set on hold a few years ago due to collecting other sets and want to finish it in the future. I wish I had done it before the 2021 releases, but its too late for that.

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  • JimnightJimnight Posts: 10,846 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Could be awhile.

  • TurtleCatTurtleCat Posts: 4,628 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I think the cool off will start next year. However, if the market stays as active as it is then I think prices will still be higher than in the last few years.

  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 14,030 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I’m not aware of a lot of new collectors for the Morgan and Peace dollar series. Interest in the issues from 1921, including moderns, isn’t the same thing. And if you’re speaking of higher prices, many, if not most market segments have experienced that.

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  • CoinHoarderCoinHoarder Posts: 2,613 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 8, 2021 5:53AM

    Not sure how long the hype will last.

    But the way inflation is right now, it may be quite awhile before prices retreat, if ever.

  • WCCWCC Posts: 2,655 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @PerryHall said:
    The Peace Dollar series has a lot going for it---large silver coin, beautiful design, only 24 coins in the series, and no impossible or expensive dates. I'm surprised this series isn't more popular.

    It is very popular, just less preferred than the Morgan and to my knowledge, always has been.

    It's also very common, except under the very liberal US collecting definitions of scarcity.

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I would surmise the hype/fever will abate in 12-30 months. Then, depending on PM prices, or the general state of the coin market, prices could recede - or not. Cheers, RickO

  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,448 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @WCC said:

    It is very popular, just less preferred than the Morgan and to my knowledge, always has been.

    It's also very common, except under the very liberal US collecting definitions of scarcity.

    Very common means it's very affordable to coin collectors of average means which is most of us.

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  • coinandcurrency242coinandcurrency242 Posts: 1,962 ✭✭✭✭

    @CoinHoarder said:
    Not sure how long the hype will last.

    But the way inflation is right now, it may be quite awhile before prices retreat, if ever.

    Yup! A lot of silver stackers out there!

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  • jesbrokenjesbroken Posts: 10,182 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @PerryHall said:
    The Peace Dollar series has a lot going for it---large silver coin, beautiful design, only 24 coins in the series, and no impossible or expensive dates. I'm surprised this series isn't more popular.

    Yes, you can collect a nice AU58 set for under $5k and if you wish to go MS 65 you can still stay under $100k.
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  • silverpopsilverpop Posts: 6,702 ✭✭✭✭✭

    only time will tell when the peace dollar market settles down

    Aug 11th

  • Cougar1978Cougar1978 Posts: 8,477 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 8, 2021 7:38AM

    My gut feel - Prices will fall across board on many US issues especially generics. The recent run up a promoted, temporary thing in my view. Not a bad idea time take profits.

    However Peace Dollars are an affordable completable series for many and an interesting area for specialization for participants. Anything’s possible. Quality, better dates will always have demand.

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  • WAYNEASWAYNEAS Posts: 6,895 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 8, 2021 11:02AM

    IMO
    Speculators are the drivers of the hype.
    The hype will last as long as there are buyers willing to pay 3x-5x over melt. :o
    The secondary market will tack on at least a 10% price increase over what they had to buy it at.
    Eventually people will realize that and stop buying and will start looking for precious metals that are 2-3% over spot.
    True **Modern **collectors are between a rock and a hard place.
    They have to pay up or give up. :(
    Wayne

    Edited original reply to say Modern Collectors.

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  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 14,030 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @WAYNEAS said:
    IMO
    Speculators are the drivers of the hype.
    The hype will last as long as there are buyers willing to pay 3x-5x over melt. :o
    The secondary market will tack on at least a 10% price increase over what they had to buy it at.
    Eventually people will realize that and stop buying and will start looking for precious metals that are 2-3% over spot.
    True collectors are between a rock and a hard place.
    They have to pay up or give up. :(
    Wayne

    True collectors have another option - patience and waiting to see if prices go back down.

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  • WalkerfanWalkerfan Posts: 9,500 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 8, 2021 8:43AM

    I just got back into Morgans, when the prices were taking off. I bought an 1878 7/8 tail feathers, an 1888S and an 1878 CC all in 64 and I over paid for all three. I am working on other series, now, until prices subside. I’m hoping that prices cool off, in about a year or two, but inflation is probably playing a role, as well, so who knows?

    Personally, I don’t think they’re going to go back down to where they were a year ago for quite a long time, if ever. I do think they will stabilize at a higher level.

    Take the 1921 peace dollar in 64 for example: that was a $600 graysheet bid coin just about six months ago, now, it’s selling for over $2000 on some websites. Hard to believe that that price will sustain but who knows? I certainly think it’s worth more than $600, though.

    I started this thread about a month ago and you might find it of interest:

    https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/1060136/the-morgan-and-peace-dollar-market-seem-to-be-on-fire#latest

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  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 35,345 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @WAYNEAS said:
    IMO
    Speculators are the drivers of the hype.
    The hype will last as long as there are buyers willing to pay 3x-5x over melt. :o
    The secondary market will tack on at least a 10% price increase over what they had to buy it at.
    Eventually people will realize that and stop buying and will start looking for precious metals that are 2-3% over spot.
    True collectors are between a rock and a hard place.
    They have to pay up or give up. :(
    Wayne

    "True collectors" - God, I hate that term - aren't buying classic coins for their bullion content.

  • WCCWCC Posts: 2,655 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @PerryHall said:

    Very common means it's very affordable to coin collectors of average means which is most of us.

    Yes, I understand that. But what's your definition of popular?

    There are a lot of Peace dollar collectors. No realistic prospect of enough to absorb the supply of the most common dates but still many, as in presumably tens of thousands.

  • WCCWCC Posts: 2,655 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:

    "True collectors" - God, I hate that term - aren't buying classic coins for their bullion content.

    Maybe not, but there must be a lot of buying for financial reasons for both Peace and Morgan dollars (including non-collectors) given the TPG counts. I don't see any other explanation.

    Some of the counts are in the hundreds of thousands with the 81-S over 500K. I see no possibility that most of these are owned by series collectors, for type sets, or even random buyers. Far too common.

  • BryceMBryceM Posts: 11,830 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Well, the 1921 Peace dollar is in a bit of a bubble. That will last another year or two maybe. The rest of the series, maybe not so much.... just a general elevation of prices like every other category. I wonder if the coins are worth more, or if the purchasing power of a dollar, in general, is just less?

  • SonorandesertratSonorandesertrat Posts: 5,695 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 8, 2021 1:28PM

    This is another pump and dump, just like what happened with Lincoln cents in 2009. Prices shot up, especially for MPLs, and then they came down in the next 1-2 years.

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  • WAYNEASWAYNEAS Posts: 6,895 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:

    "True collectors" - God, I hate that term - aren't buying classic coins for their bullion content.

    My op edited to say Modern collectors.
    Thanks
    Wayne

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  • koynekwestkoynekwest Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 8, 2021 1:38PM

    @PerryHall said:
    The Peace Dollar series has a lot going for it---large silver coin, beautiful design, only 24 coins in the series, and no impossible or expensive dates. I'm surprised this series isn't more popular.

    I may be in the minority but to me at least it's much more popular than the Morgans.

  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,368 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The Peace Dollar hype?

    Six months to a year.

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  • savitalesavitale Posts: 1,409 ✭✭✭✭✭

    With my usual impeccable timing, I sold off my Peace Dollar set late last year. :/

  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,376 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BillJones said:
    The Peace Dollar hype?

    Six months to a year.

    Agree. It will last through the end of the centennial anniversary and a bit after.

  • SonorandesertratSonorandesertrat Posts: 5,695 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @savitale said:
    With my usual impeccable timing, I sold off my Peace Dollar set late last year. :/

    Still better than my timing. I bought a bunch of nice 65 and 66 matte proof Lincolns in late 2007-early 2008, intending to sell them in 2009. The collector in me wouldn't let go of them. They are still in one of my safety deposit boxes, and I looked at them last week...for the first time in more than 10 years.

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  • jesbrokenjesbroken Posts: 10,182 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @savitale said:
    With my usual impeccable timing, I sold off my Peace Dollar set late last year. :/

    Don't feel bad, I sold both of mine, an AU and a 63. :s
    Jim


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