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The Morgan (and Peace Dollar) market seem to be on fire.

WalkerfanWalkerfan Posts: 9,656 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited July 11, 2021 12:18PM in U.S. Coin Forum

What do you think will happen in the future?

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The Morgan (and Peace Dollar) market seem to be on fire.

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  • DisneyFanDisneyFan Posts: 2,414 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Market will stabilize and remain steady

    I think we are starting to see new collectors come into the market with a fresh historical price perspective. For a while we had more older collectors selling than young collectors buying. Most interesting is the new strong interest in the platinum bullion coin series which started in 1997 and now beginning to be viewed as collectible because of their low mintages.

  • IKUIKU Posts: 65 ✭✭✭
    edited July 11, 2021 11:37PM
    Market will crash below recent previous levels

    Why modern Sacagawea dollar is so small in diameter 26mm (1.043") ?
    Same size as 2€ euro coin.
    Please make 38mm Sacagawea dollars. Or create new 2(two) dollar coins. <3

    And Silver eagle is not a genuine 1$ dollar. Last one was Eisenhower dollar 1978.

  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 29,058 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Market will stabilize and remain steady

    I think it will remain steady. If there's a new influx of new collectors it might be different, jmo

  • IKUIKU Posts: 65 ✭✭✭
    edited July 12, 2021 3:49AM
    Market will crash below recent previous levels

    Morgan is about the only cheap large diameter silver size (almost 40mm) coin that actually had real world usage/circulation.

    • European silver Thalers expensive.
    • Silver 8 Reales Spanish expensive.
    • Larger Russian silver roubles 1800 and before expensive.
    • Large British crowns 1800 and before expensive.

    What else is left if you want 1700-1900, large size and cheap 100-200 usd$/euros ?

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Market will drop back to recent previous levels

    The market will return to previous levels...probably around 2023. However, if the precious metals markets really take off due to inflation etc., that will impact the market to some extent. Cheers, RickO

  • JBNJBN Posts: 1,889 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Market will drop back to recent previous levels

    The question is when. My answer is in the long term. There are so many silver dollars out there that demand will be sated in a stable market. In the short term (year; year & a half), prices may continue to escalate. Current coin market is hot.

  • cameonut2011cameonut2011 Posts: 10,181 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 12, 2021 7:19AM
    Market will drop back to recent previous levels

    Most of the coins are not rare. I plan to sell any I might have left.

  • WCCWCC Posts: 2,823 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @IKU said:
    Morgan is about the only cheap large diameter silver size (almost 40mm) coin that actually had real world usage/circulation.

    • European silver Thalers expensive.
    • Silver 8 Reales Spanish expensive.
    • Larger Russian silver roubles 1800 and before expensive.
    • Large British crowns 1800 and before expensive.

    What else is left if you want 1700-1900, large size and cheap 100-200 usd$/euros ?

    There are certainly 19th and 20th century world crowns in a similar price range to some roughly equivalent quality Morgan and Peace dollars which are comparable as a collectible, if not better.

  • WCCWCC Posts: 2,823 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @cameonut2011 said:
    Most of the coins are not rare. I plan to sell any I might have left.

    All are common outside the proof branch mint (Morgan) and High relief (Peace), except in the context of grade or VAM.

  • WCCWCC Posts: 2,823 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @JBN said:
    The question is when. My answer is in the long term. There are so many silver dollars out there that demand will be sated in a stable market. In the short term (year; year & a half), prices may continue to escalate. Current coin market is hot.

    It has been my assumption for a long time that a noticeable to disproportionate percentage are owned by non-collectors as "investments". I see no possibility that most 1881-S and other dates with anywhere near comparable availability are owned primarily by collectors.

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 35,719 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @WCC said:

    @IKU said:
    Morgan is about the only cheap large diameter silver size (almost 40mm) coin that actually had real world usage/circulation.

    • European silver Thalers expensive.
    • Silver 8 Reales Spanish expensive.
    • Larger Russian silver roubles 1800 and before expensive.
    • Large British crowns 1800 and before expensive.

    What else is left if you want 1700-1900, large size and cheap 100-200 usd$/euros ?

    There are certainly 19th and 20th century world crowns in a similar price range to some roughly equivalent quality Morgan and Peace dollars which are comparable as a collectible, if not better.

    Mexican 8 reales are not that expensive.

    I also don't know many people that collect that way: find a coin of a certain size no matter the design or country of origin.

  • WCCWCC Posts: 2,823 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @WCC said:

    @IKU said:
    Morgan is about the only cheap large diameter silver size (almost 40mm) coin that actually had real world usage/circulation.

    • European silver Thalers expensive.
    • Silver 8 Reales Spanish expensive.
    • Larger Russian silver roubles 1800 and before expensive.
    • Large British crowns 1800 and before expensive.

    What else is left if you want 1700-1900, large size and cheap 100-200 usd$/euros ?

    There are certainly 19th and 20th century world crowns in a similar price range to some roughly equivalent quality Morgan and Peace dollars which are comparable as a collectible, if not better.

    Mexican 8 reales are not that expensive.

    I also don't know many people that collect that way: find a coin of a certain size no matter the design or country of origin.

    I infer it may happen at low price points or did in the past, but not at $100 to $200. Not sure what can be bought for the price of a common MS Morgan or Peace dollar anymore.

  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 23,754 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Seems that there is a disconnect with how silver is traded on the COMEX and its value in a physical form. Seems Morgan and Peace Dollars in all grades are benefitting. Perhaps there is a new wave of interest. Now whether the interest is sustainable will dictate whether the valuations will continue to climb. I suppose in looking at the premiums on Silver Eagles, it sort of begs the question as to what might be the appropriate valuation for Morgans and Peace Dollars. I see better values in World crown size coins. So I did not vote.

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  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 23,754 ✭✭✭✭✭

    looks as if PCGS or NGC 64 Morgans are over $100

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  • ColonelJessupColonelJessup Posts: 6,442 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 12, 2021 12:39PM

    @ricko said:
    The market will return to previous levels...probably around 2023. However, if the precious metals markets really take off due to inflation etc., that will impact the market to some extent. Cheers, RickO

    He is old and has become wise. He insists on white coins.

    Two out of three ain't bad :p

    "People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." - Geo. Orwell
  • WCCWCC Posts: 2,823 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @coinkat said:
    looks as if PCGS or NGC 64 Morgans are over $100

    That's expensive for such common coins, despite current bullion premiums. I don't see any difference conceptually between common Morgan and Peace dollars versus the most common pre-1933 US gold.

  • Namvet69Namvet69 Posts: 9,219 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Market will drop back to recent previous levels

    My experience is that there's the price and then there's the price! I enjoy examining what's available and negotiating a transaction. Peace Roy

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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Market will drop back to recent previous levels

    @ColonelJessup .... Age and wisdom occurred simultaneously, though gradually.... The third is a predilection and ingrained. ;) Cheers, RickO

  • IKUIKU Posts: 65 ✭✭✭
    Market will crash below recent previous levels

    Oh well I played it safe and if prices continue to raise imported hastily at least 7pcs different AU50-MS64 morgans to extend my collection. :'( ( I have time to wait for value raise being only 35 old and such. )

    • It is 2 headed sword. If worse happens and prices start to escalate further. I have already seen the +30-40% raise.
      If morgan's price bubble does not burst it standardizes to current value and it may never lower.
  • AlexinPAAlexinPA Posts: 1,458 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I just bought a 1921 Morgan - PCGS MS64 - 3rd Gen Holder for $89.00 + Free Shipping. I was surprised that I got it for that.

  • AMRCAMRC Posts: 4,280 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Market will stabilize and remain steady

    You know what they say. Be contrarian.

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  • CoinHoarderCoinHoarder Posts: 2,614 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 14, 2021 3:11AM

    It’s hard to say what might happen in the future as relates to these silver dollars. Inflation may play a big role in the future prices.

  • MgarmyMgarmy Posts: 2,296 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Market will continue to soar

    Just sent 60 to GC…fingers crossed

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  • Cougar1978Cougar1978 Posts: 8,714 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 14, 2021 3:08PM
    Market will crash below recent previous levels

    They appear way overpriced to me. I hope not but they could be poised for nose dive.

    1881–S Dollar - There are 279k graded by PCGS in some grade or other. PCGS Market report shows MS 65 1881-S at $225. PCGS Coin Facts pop 57k in MS 65. Would not be surprised see them drop down to $100. Better blow them out now…..take profits now or cry in your beer later.

    Seems like all money been wrung outta them.

    My recommendation: PCGS MS69 ASE. Cheaper, lower pop, have more silver in them. CW Trends $55.

    Coins & Currency
  • SmudgeSmudge Posts: 9,761 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I don’t care.

  • lkeneficlkenefic Posts: 8,439 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Market will drop back to recent previous levels

    I picked a slightly inopportune time to start back up on a Date Set of Morgan Dollars, but the XF,AU coins I was looking for were still hammering for relatively cheap and the higher prices were driving more good material to come out. I got the 10 coins I wanted to start the set, but I'm not paying $75 for common date Morgan Dollars in that condition.

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