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Bought my first Gold $1, want to GTG? (Update: Trueviews/Grade Posted)

DelawareDoonsDelawareDoons Posts: 3,413 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited May 12, 2021 12:37PM in U.S. Coin Forum

Just for fun.



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  • PQueuePQueue Posts: 901 ✭✭✭

    58, both pic sets appear to show wear.

  • SmudgeSmudge Posts: 9,655 ✭✭✭✭✭

    High AU.

  • SilverProofQuarter1883SilverProofQuarter1883 Posts: 1,865 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Ms 63

  • PedzolaPedzola Posts: 1,027 ✭✭✭✭✭

    AU64

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  • 2dueces2dueces Posts: 6,559 ✭✭✭✭✭

    No guess but I sure do like it. Nice PU.

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  • JimTylerJimTyler Posts: 3,579 ✭✭✭✭✭

    63

  • JimnightJimnight Posts: 10,846 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice!
    58.

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  • HasBeenHasBeen Posts: 42 ✭✭

    I like the first set of pics best. The second set makes the piece look like it’s been bathed in iodine.

    I’ll venture out there with a guess of MS66

  • ShadyDaveShadyDave Posts: 2,207 ✭✭✭✭✭

    MS-64

    I don't think the coin is circulated, what I think people are seeing is a weak strike. If it was circulation, there would be more marks in the field and I just don't see that...but the pics could be hiding some marks.

  • Mr_SpudMr_Spud Posts: 5,967 ✭✭✭✭✭

    63

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  • jwittenjwitten Posts: 5,219 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Very nice coin!

  • MarkMark Posts: 3,563 ✭✭✭✭✭

    To me, this is a hard call. On the obverse, I see what may be discoloration on the check, the top part of the hair, and the top part of the feathers and this discoloration might indicate wear. There are similar spots on the reverse. However, the discoloration might just be part of the (attractive!) toning and the fields look very, very clean. I guess I'll go with the fields to guess MS65.

    Mark


  • ChrisH821ChrisH821 Posts: 6,623 ✭✭✭✭✭

    64-ish

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  • Batman23Batman23 Posts: 4,999 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice gold. It feels like you have reached another level when you add some gold to the collection. And then it wants a friend.

    My first thought was AU55. I also have a tendency to undergrade gold.

  • TurtleCatTurtleCat Posts: 4,628 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice, I like it at AU 58.

  • clarkbar04clarkbar04 Posts: 4,975 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice one, I'm gonna guess its in an old 64 holder.

    MS66 taste on an MS63 budget.
  • BryceMBryceM Posts: 11,841 ✭✭✭✭✭

    A very nice AU58.

    I don’t see this one in an MS holder, even considering the “market grading” shift that has become well-established now. The wear around the wreath is just too evident.

  • KliaoKliao Posts: 5,623 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 5, 2021 1:45PM

    58 Nice coin!

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  • ConnecticoinConnecticoin Posts: 13,051 ✭✭✭✭✭

    A nice 58

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  • santinidollarsantinidollar Posts: 1,056 ✭✭✭✭✭
    1. Nice coin!
  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    AU58.... Still a nice gold coin.... Cheers, RickO

  • csdotcsdot Posts: 705 ✭✭✭✭
    edited April 5, 2021 8:42PM

    AU58+

    Would have said MS-63, but the rub in the hair held it back for me. Nice gold coin.

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  • HasBeenHasBeen Posts: 42 ✭✭

    So when do we get to see the grade?

  • JRoccoJRocco Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭✭

    AU 55

    Some coins are just plain "Interesting"
  • blitzdudeblitzdude Posts: 6,272 ✭✭✭✭✭

    AU53, I need one but can't pay over melt so it will be awhile lol. Congrats!

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  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 24,514 ✭✭✭✭✭

    AU55 but graded AU58.

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  • HasBeenHasBeen Posts: 42 ✭✭

    I feel the need to remind people that you’re looking at a picture at least 20 times larger than the item really is.

    I’d go so far as to say the vast majority of people couldn’t see, or wouldn’t care about, the so-called wear everyone is talking about.

    Get the big picture and stop micograding.

    Then again, I’m probably all wet.

  • pcgscacgoldpcgscacgold Posts: 2,943 ✭✭✭✭✭

    63+

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  • liefgoldliefgold Posts: 1,701 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I used to own his twin brother. I will guess 63.



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  • DollarAfterDollarDollarAfterDollar Posts: 3,215 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 5, 2021 5:22PM

    I was at 63 until I spotted the mottled look on the neck below the ear. Still a beautiful coin.

    MS 62

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  • DelawareDoonsDelawareDoons Posts: 3,413 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @HasBeen said:
    So when do we get to see the grade?

    Tomorrow morning!

    Tough crowd!

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  • 7Jaguars7Jaguars Posts: 7,607 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm at 63 - the "wear" at hair and ear is not IMO, but rather soft strike and oxidation of the lesser struck parts. The denticles are superb and see no real wear, the fields very nice. This is true of the leaves and reverse. Denticles on obv. softly struck at 6 o'clock.

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  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,799 ✭✭✭✭✭

    63 NO CAC

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  • mirabelamirabela Posts: 5,078 ✭✭✭✭✭

    64

    mirabela
  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,545 ✭✭✭✭✭

    MS-63 in the holder, AU-58 outside of it.

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  • pursuitoflibertypursuitofliberty Posts: 7,174 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice coin for sure, I like it!

    Grade wise ... really a tough call. Excludingthe possibility of "plus" grades, my guesses, in order, would be MS63, AU58, MS62 or MS64


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  • fathomfathom Posts: 1,804 ✭✭✭✭✭

    65

  • mannie graymannie gray Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭✭✭

    58

  • csdotcsdot Posts: 705 ✭✭✭✭

    @HasBeen said:
    I feel the need to remind people that you’re looking at a picture at least 20 times larger than the item really is.

    I’d go so far as to say the vast majority of people couldn’t see, or wouldn’t care about, the so-called wear everyone is talking about.

    Get the big picture and stop micograding.

    Then again, I’m probably all wet.

    Good comment. I just pulled out my MS64 (which looks great in hand), and I can't even get a photo of it that looks as good as the OP's coin.

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  • DelawareDoonsDelawareDoons Posts: 3,413 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 6, 2021 5:29AM

    @Mark said:
    To me, this is a hard call. On the obverse, I see what may be discoloration on the check, the top part of the hair, and the top part of the feathers and this discoloration might indicate wear. There are similar spots on the reverse. However, the discoloration might just be part of the (attractive!) toning and the fields look very, very clean. I guess I'll go with the fields to guess MS65.

    @fathom said:
    65

    Congratulations to the two contestants that got it right and honorable mentions to anybody who didn't guess 58 or lower.

    RE the size of the coin, here's a sense of perspective for you. I will update after this goes to CAC in a few months.

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  • HasBeenHasBeen Posts: 42 ✭✭

    It’s amazing what differences are possible in photography

    I’m sure the original poster didn’t do anything to his pics.

    But all three of the pics of the coin look totally different

  • 7Jaguars7Jaguars Posts: 7,607 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I am not surprised. I think we tend overall to be a bit conservative on these boards as would likely be understandable.
    BTW, nice coin there.

    Love that Milled British (1830-1960)
    Well, just Love coins, period.
  • PedzolaPedzola Posts: 1,027 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Great to get educated. Hard to tell the diff between wear vs weak strike or some other color difference. I guessed "AU64" being that I couldnt tell the diff. I can easily see it at 65 if luster is better than I perceived.

    Tough to grade fron pictures, thanks for the lesson!

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  • DelawareDoonsDelawareDoons Posts: 3,413 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The main thing I think you all are seeing is a slightly weak strike combined with slightly different toning on different elevations of the coin. If I had to guess, I would guess this coin was stored in an envelope for ages. Areas in contact with the envelope toned differently than areas not in contact with it for various reasons.

    "It's like God, Family, Country, except Sticker, Plastic, Coin."

  • TurtleCatTurtleCat Posts: 4,628 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Makes me think I should resubmit some of my gold dollars, then, that have a very similar look in OGH that are graded 58...

  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 24,514 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @HasBeen said:
    I feel the need to remind people that you’re looking at a picture at least 20 times larger than the item really is.

    I’d go so far as to say the vast majority of people couldn’t see, or wouldn’t care about, the so-called wear everyone is talking about.

    Get the big picture and stop micograding.

    Then again, I’m probably all wet.

    Terrible advice. Strict grading is a must in today's market.

    All glory is fleeting.
  • pcgscacgoldpcgscacgold Posts: 2,943 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Congrats on the coin. I was on the fence for a guess of 64 and went 63+. Should have stuck with my initial thought. Being one grade off isn't too bad (when viewing photos).

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  • HasBeenHasBeen Posts: 42 ✭✭

    291fifth...

    You’re right.

    I’ll keep my opinions to myself. Besides I’m just an ole “HasBeen”.

    What do I know...

  • ashelandasheland Posts: 23,473 ✭✭✭✭✭

    My guess was 64. Excellent coin and color!!!

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