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How would you grade these two Carson City Seated halves
Eddi
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I have always found Carson City Seated coinage extremely interesting. These are two seated halves from that mint which I added to my collection some years ago. Both are encapsulated.
I would be interested to hear your how you would grade them.
Thank you.
Eduard
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NGC F15 on the 1871-CC and NGC XF45 on the 1878-CC.
Grading the CC-mint halves by the completeness of the word "LIBERTY" is unreliable, and it is not consistent with the way our host grades them. As Rich Uhrich explained to me in the past, many of the CC-mint halves were struck with improper striking pressure, so the obverse was slightly convex. Thus, it is common to see F-VF coins on which the word LIBERTY is essentially worn off, while the reverse looks like it grades higher.
F15 and XF40..... Old CC halves that have done their commercial duty....Cheers, RickO
1871 VG-8. The reverse is better, but that does not grade the coin. There is a lot of wear on the obverse.
1878 VF-25, maybe 30. It’s nowhere near the classic EF. The surfaces are too worn.
Nice images and both are tough calls... the second being more difficult than the first.
The first, in my view, is a 10 because the obverse simply does not carry the grade. While the reverse is in the F12 spectrum, the obverse clearly misses the mark. It is still a decent example at a VG10 grade.
I would like to grade the second one at EF40... but I am unable to because of the reverse scratch between the wing and the eagle's head and extending into the neck. I see the location as distracting enough to grade the coin at 35. I still think it is a decent coin. I like the original surfaces and would prefer this coin over some enhanced coin that made 40 but the processed look is a greater problem from my perspective. I am likely in the minority on this so take my commentary for what it is worth.
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12 and 40 respectively.
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12 and 35
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15 & 35
VG8 and EF40
The 1871- CC is too scuffed to be 10 or 12, IMO.
VG 10 and VF 30
15 and 35
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VG10 on the 71CC, VF35 on the 78CC...
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20 & 35
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VG10 and XF40
10, 35.
Possibly a grade bump compared to P mints due to branch mints not having the same striking quality? If so possibly a fine on the first and EF on second.
10 and 25.
VG10
VF35
LIBERTY SEATED DIMES WITH MAJOR VARIETIES CIRCULATION STRIKES (1837-1891) digital album
VG10 and VF35, both reverses are quite better than obverses. Shame we no longer have obverse/reverse grades. JMO
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VG-10
VF-30,35
VF 20
XF 45
F-12
VF-30
VG8
VF30
I agree.
8 and 40.
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There's enough spread in the grades in this thread that you'd think we're all newbies who started collecting last week. Conclusion: Circ. CC-mint Seated halves are hard to grade.
VG10 & VF30 were my initial impressions; however, after seeing some other evaluations I think VG10 & VF 30 or 35.
10 and 35
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8 and 30 net for the staple scratch
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10 and 35
NGC grades"?
Waiting on grades on these.
My apologies, logger7. Here are the NGC grades.
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https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/collectors-showcase/date-sets/hashtags-prefect-coin-grading-service-1879/album/7621
Thank you, @Rhedden, for this interesting remarks. I had read in the past about the striking conditions at the Carson City mint which you refer too, but I cannot remember where I saw it. Your comments confirm that.
FIne-15, “almost a VF” and EF-45?
Yea right. It is unfortunate that NGC does things like this to itself.
Strike plays a role in modifying a grade, but WEAR is the MAJOR FACTOR.
I would have said 15 and 35.
Nice coins!